Calling all Engine Builders- Chance of a Lifetime!

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Edited Date/Time 12/31/2021 3:05am
I came across this job posting and almost fell off my chair.

https://www.motorcycleindustryjobs.com/job/honda-hrc-torrance-ca-full-t…
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12/27/2021 8:40pm Edited Date/Time 12/27/2021 8:41pm
Woohoo Count me in! One issue. I can't build engines for shit though. Dry
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Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

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12/28/2021 6:15am
The trickiest part of that job would be finding a place you can afford to live on 80k a year within an hour’s drive of Torrance.
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stone881
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philG wrote:
Its surprising they even need to advertise. Normally, at this level , jobs find you . Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that...
Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Someone should let Terry know.
Yeah but they want some reliable
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12/28/2021 6:28am
philG wrote:
Its surprising they even need to advertise. Normally, at this level , jobs find you . Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that...
Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

stone881 wrote:
That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
I feel like someone smart enough to build race engines for a big time race team should make more than 80K.
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Imagine the level of stress you’d have every time they are on the track?! Or if one of them experienced an engine failure..

I wouldn’t exactly say airplane mech level stress after a plane crashes, but certainly job security level stress.

In theory sounds like a fun job and easy to find someone, but reality it’s not.
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philG wrote:
Its surprising they even need to advertise. Normally, at this level , jobs find you . Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that...
Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

stone881 wrote:
That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
Sandusky26 wrote:
I feel like someone smart enough to build race engines for a big time race team should make more than 80K.
It's just disassembly, inspection and re-assembly (probably have to insert into a chassis and dyno it aftr). The position isn't in charge of development or progressing the engine program.
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12/28/2021 6:57am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2021 7:00am
philG wrote:
Its surprising they even need to advertise. Normally, at this level , jobs find you . Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that...
Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

stone881 wrote:
That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
Sandusky26 wrote:
I feel like someone smart enough to build race engines for a big time race team should make more than 80K.
The engineers that design the engines do. The mechanics assembling them? Not so much.
There’s a reason so many of Honda’s race team members over the years have commuted to Torrance from as far away as the high desert. They can’t afford to live within an hour of Torrance. If you want a good chuckle, hop on Zillow and see what $500k will buy you in Compton these days.
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12/28/2021 7:05am
It's probably advertised because they have to. I'd bet the job is already filled.
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12/28/2021 7:11am
It's probably advertised because they have to. I'd bet the job is already filled.
Actually, I think it's really available. They filled other off-season gig changes without listing them and I was asked about recommendations for this job a couple weeks ago...so I think they're still looking.
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12/28/2021 7:13am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2021 7:14am
It's probably advertised because they have to. I'd bet the job is already filled.
They are required to list any opening on their website, but if they are paying to advertise it, it is still open. If someone is qualified and interested, they should go after it.
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12/28/2021 7:17am
It's probably advertised because they have to. I'd bet the job is already filled.
They are required to list any opening on their website, but if they are paying to advertise it, it is still open. If someone is qualified...
They are required to list any opening on their website, but if they are paying to advertise it, it is still open. If someone is qualified and interested, they should go after it.
Agreed.

Honestly, if someone wants their shot in the industry and has the mechanical skills to meet the needs, go for it. They're a great group to work with and they'll learn a ton being around guys like Ryan Cox, Lars Lindstrom, Shane Drew, Robert Reichmann, Grant Hutcheson, etc etc etc...
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12/28/2021 7:23am
Curious to know if the vax is required for employment.
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12/28/2021 7:31am
What are the odds that they’ll hire some “ wrench it Randy “ for this job? The short list they probably have drawn up already includes people that should command more pay I would imagine.
I understand that they have to advertise the opening so as to avoid any possible legal troubles ( many companies already have their candidates in mind, but post a job opening anyhow for this reason ), but this pay in that area sounds suitable to someone living with their parents, or in a tent near their workplace.
I’m sure whoever gets the position will likely benefit more in the long term than in the short term with it, though.
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walent215 wrote:
Curious to know if the vax is required for employment.
A good chunk of the team positions are run through Rilauja instead of Honda corporate. I can't say for sure, but I don't think there's a requirement through this. However, I could be wrong.
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12/28/2021 8:56am
my first question would be: what happened to the last guy that had this job?

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stone881 wrote:
That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
Sandusky26 wrote:
I feel like someone smart enough to build race engines for a big time race team should make more than 80K.
ML512 wrote:
It's just disassembly, inspection and re-assembly (probably have to insert into a chassis and dyno it aftr). The position isn't in charge of development or progressing...
It's just disassembly, inspection and re-assembly (probably have to insert into a chassis and dyno it aftr). The position isn't in charge of development or progressing the engine program.
Its still a big deal, no room for error.
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12/28/2021 9:04am
ML512 wrote:
A good chunk of the team positions are run through Rilauja instead of Honda corporate. I can't say for sure, but I don't think there's a...
A good chunk of the team positions are run through Rilauja instead of Honda corporate. I can't say for sure, but I don't think there's a requirement through this. However, I could be wrong.
Googled Rilauja. Is that the company that owns/runs the Honda semi's? The only hit I really found was a trucking company.
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12/28/2021 9:05am
$80K -starting- (plus bennies) to build CRF450/250 engines ISN'T a good gig?

Hmmmm...$1,538.56 per week...$6,667.00 per month...?

In the real world, that's a decent job for starters and offers plenty of opportunity from what we've seen come out Bldg 500 at AHMC. Anyone noticed the vertical progression among the crew at Team Honda?

Example: a personal friend that was The Parts Guru on that team...went on to be a prototype machinist/machine operator at a biz that rapid proto's in the automotive sector & he's doing pretty damn good, too. So, there's always that.

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philG wrote:
Its surprising they even need to advertise. Normally, at this level , jobs find you . Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that...
Its surprising they even need to advertise.

Normally, at this level , jobs find you .

Good engine builders are great to watch, the guys that built the Honda Indy V8 i worked on, were meticulous build sheet followers, which is what you need, a few guys came and tried the ' i like to do this' method, but unless you beat that out of them, they didnt last long.


Its certainly a job where you have no place to hide.

stone881 wrote:
That's exactly what I thought, "they have to advertise this job"?
Sandusky26 wrote:
I feel like someone smart enough to build race engines for a big time race team should make more than 80K.
Actually, the reason why they have to advertise, is because all the people good enough to do it , probably wont do it for that money, based there.



There are Motorsports jobs here in the UK that crop up at this time of year, i get calls pretty much most weeks November /December , offering a 'great opportunity', which turns out to be a 3 month contract working 4 nights a week, over the weekend, during F1 car build season.. There are guys that will do it , and take other contracts in different industries the rest of the time.

And then they want long hours out of you 'cos racing', and pretty much sums it up ... meanwhile the general skills shortage means regular jobs pay almost as much , for 37 hours a week, and more holidays, so they cant pull people in.

Red Bull will be starting up their own engine program shortly, but it isnt worth £15k a year to me to work 10 hours a week longer, and travel 2 hours a day . instead of the 9 minute drive i currently have.




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12/28/2021 9:18am
my first question would be: what happened to the last guy that had this job?

I think I heard someone say SpaceX.
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I didn't see the pay on the site.
We know it's 80?
12/28/2021 9:19am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2021 9:20am
TeamGreen wrote:
$80K -starting- (plus bennies) to build CRF450/250 engines ISN'T a good gig? Hmmmm...$1,538.56 per week...$6,667.00 per month...? In the real world, that's a decent job for...
$80K -starting- (plus bennies) to build CRF450/250 engines ISN'T a good gig?

Hmmmm...$1,538.56 per week...$6,667.00 per month...?

In the real world, that's a decent job for starters and offers plenty of opportunity from what we've seen come out Bldg 500 at AHMC. Anyone noticed the vertical progression among the crew at Team Honda?

Example: a personal friend that was The Parts Guru on that team...went on to be a prototype machinist/machine operator at a biz that rapid proto's in the automotive sector & he's doing pretty damn good, too. So, there's always that.

And a lot better than a lower wage shop job working on getting rounded out phillips head (err JIS) screws off a corroded rat of a bike engine with your impact driver.
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Googled Rilauja. Is that the company that owns/runs the Honda semi's? The only hit I really found was a trucking company.
Correct.
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12/28/2021 9:21am
Sandusky26 wrote:
Its still a big deal, no room for error.
I made a hell of a lot less doing the exact same gig but with suspension. And for a much larger range of people. There's a lot of jobs that require a good level of detail out there.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the job is easy. But it's also not rocket science. For someone with a good mechanical understanding, attention to detail and is willing to ask questions...plus a passion for moto...it'll be a badass job.
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I didn't see the pay on the site.
We know it's 80?
I don't know if they're paying any relocation fees to actual Texas cow-hands and bottle makers...Grinning
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I didn't see the pay on the site.
We know it's 80?
TeamGreen wrote:
I don't know if they're paying any relocation fees to actual Texas cow-hands and bottle makers...Grinning
Dammit!
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12/28/2021 9:32am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2021 9:32am
my first question would be: what happened to the last guy that had this job?

He starved to death trying to pay his 1900 a month rent for his studio apartment in torrance
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