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Is 30 hours expected out of these I have no soles and a hole through both fronts of the boots. Anyone have an email to someone at alpine stars to see if they’ll do anything? My SG12s lasted years and are still in better shape then these…
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Cygrace74 6/13/2022 7:19pm
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I think that’s a record for longest life lol
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quadzrulebro 6/13/2022 7:25pm
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I switched from Tech 10s to SG-12 recently. I’ve probably done 4 or 5 race weekends in them already. The soles still look brand new!
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hubbardmx50 6/13/2022 7:32pm
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This is probably the 5th or 6th thread on this topic, but I feel you. Left side bottom sole didn't even last me three months of riding before it was down to the base. Had it repaired April last year and will have to have it done again here soon. It Isn't down to the base yet but I noticed a chunk missing after riding yesterday. Right side has held up better because obviously I'm not shifting and moving around as much. The rest of the boot is solid. I love them. So much better to ride with than the previous generation tech 10. No other durability issues with the rest of the boot
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nadeauracing229 6/13/2022 7:49pm
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hubbardmx50 wrote:
This is probably the 5th or 6th thread on this topic, but I feel you. Left side bottom sole didn't even last me three months of...
This is probably the 5th or 6th thread on this topic, but I feel you. Left side bottom sole didn't even last me three months of riding before it was down to the base. Had it repaired April last year and will have to have it done again here soon. It Isn't down to the base yet but I noticed a chunk missing after riding yesterday. Right side has held up better because obviously I'm not shifting and moving around as much. The rest of the boot is solid. I love them. So much better to ride with than the previous generation tech 10. No other durability issues with the rest of the boot
I know it has I’m just pretty pissed my $500 plus boots lasted 30 hours haha mine have a hole in the leather/plastic on the front of the boot above the booty along with the bottoms being destroyed.
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hititpind 6/13/2022 8:17pm
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They are way to expensive to only last as little as they do. My instincts seem to hold up better than my old tech’s did, but they still don’t last as long as I’d like.
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nadeauracing229 wrote:
Is 30 hours expected out of these I have no soles and a hole through both fronts of the boots. Anyone have an email to someone...
Is 30 hours expected out of these I have no soles and a hole through both fronts of the boots. Anyone have an email to someone at alpine stars to see if they’ll do anything? My SG12s lasted years and are still in better shape then these…
I ride 2-3 days a week. I had to switch to sg12 simply for longevity. Sucks because I really like the feel of the tech 10s.
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Magoofan 6/13/2022 9:08pm
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What the actual FUCK. Boots with soles that last 30 hours? What an ass rape.

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wydopen 6/13/2022 10:04pm
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60hrs on mine. 40 of them with propegs. Soles are worn but no holes and I wore through the rubber pads on the ankles fairly quick but with a resole they will be good for awhile still. Brutally cased a triple first lap of a race Sunday and got away with just a sprained ankle and was able to finish the moto. I’d imagine with boots that don’t have as much support without the bootie I’d have a broken ankle. I’ll be buying another pair when I send these out for resole. I think the sharper pegs make them last longer since your arnt grinding your feet against the pegs constantly.
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I was a Gaerne guy forever because of everyones complaints on A star wear but tried Tech 10s last year. I’ve got quite a bit of time on them and are very happy with the durability so far. I do have a buddy that blew though his quickly and had to get them re soled. However his boots were clearly worn in the arch. I tend to ride on the balls of my feet and they’re holding up great. I’m sure if you’re running razor sharp pegs boot life will be lower. Love my Tech 10s (so far)
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Richy 6/14/2022 3:01am
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Pretty interesting this variance between some guys having them last a reasonable time and some literally blowing through them?

I know a lot of people, as wydopen mentioned, say the pointy pegs actually help longevity as the soles stay in place instead of getting the cheese grater treatment from dull pegs, but there has to be more to it than this as some people with raptors / pro pegs etc have still mentioned killing them off in sub 30 hours.

Rather than either slating Alpinestars or going the other way and saying they're fine, I'd love to find out more about why it's hit and miss as I imagine their quality control and materials are pretty uniform.

I'm gonna go Gaerne next time personally but it's still an interesting topic and it comes up often.
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yz133rider 6/14/2022 4:25am
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There’s a company that will slap sidi soles onto the alpinestars boots.

But just get sidi atojo boots. Replace the soles yourself and avoid the issues.

Here’s the sidi sole company for other boots.

http://www.factoryresole.com/
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wydopen 6/14/2022 4:36am
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Richy wrote:
Pretty interesting this variance between some guys having them last a reasonable time and some literally blowing through them? I know a lot of people, as...
Pretty interesting this variance between some guys having them last a reasonable time and some literally blowing through them?

I know a lot of people, as wydopen mentioned, say the pointy pegs actually help longevity as the soles stay in place instead of getting the cheese grater treatment from dull pegs, but there has to be more to it than this as some people with raptors / pro pegs etc have still mentioned killing them off in sub 30 hours.

Rather than either slating Alpinestars or going the other way and saying they're fine, I'd love to find out more about why it's hit and miss as I imagine their quality control and materials are pretty uniform.

I'm gonna go Gaerne next time personally but it's still an interesting topic and it comes up often.
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive wear are in the arch. For me the most worn part of my boot is actually in front of the replaceable part and is from me repositioning to use the shifter..
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yz133rider 6/14/2022 4:39am
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Richy wrote:
Pretty interesting this variance between some guys having them last a reasonable time and some literally blowing through them? I know a lot of people, as...
Pretty interesting this variance between some guys having them last a reasonable time and some literally blowing through them?

I know a lot of people, as wydopen mentioned, say the pointy pegs actually help longevity as the soles stay in place instead of getting the cheese grater treatment from dull pegs, but there has to be more to it than this as some people with raptors / pro pegs etc have still mentioned killing them off in sub 30 hours.

Rather than either slating Alpinestars or going the other way and saying they're fine, I'd love to find out more about why it's hit and miss as I imagine their quality control and materials are pretty uniform.

I'm gonna go Gaerne next time personally but it's still an interesting topic and it comes up often.
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I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive...
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive wear are in the arch. For me the most worn part of my boot is actually in front of the replaceable part and is from me repositioning to use the shifter..
Agreed I don’t think the materials are hit or miss I think its how different riders move on the bike. Those who pivot from the arches wreck the tech 10s instantly. Those who ride lighter on their feet and from a better position last longer but doesn’t excuse the trash boot soles.
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Who do you guys use to replace soles? Just switched to tech 10’s no issues so far . Have been using sg12 for years , they last and last but the Astars are way more comfortable
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downonmonday 6/14/2022 5:01am
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I bought Tech 10's in 2013 and used them for 7 years. Probably 2 years of no riding due to injuries and testing for jobs, but I had several hundred hours on them and then sold them. Soles were pretty beat up, but the rest of the boot was still good. I ride/race MX only and love sharp foot pegs. Maybe the new ones have cheaper materials?
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wydopen wrote:
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive...
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive wear are in the arch. For me the most worn part of my boot is actually in front of the replaceable part and is from me repositioning to use the shifter..
I think you figured it out as I also was a mountain biker first and always rode clipped in and I wear tech 10’s and have very acceptable wear. I also ride on the balls of my feet so the wear is fairly even. I have one pair with 50ish hours on them and the soles look great and a second set that only have like 6 hours on them so they are basically perfect. I run a semi-aggressive peg too. Seems like the guys that blow through the soles are just on their arches the majority of the time.
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Hudd_421 6/14/2022 8:23am
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Think I have about 100 hours on my Tech 10s? About 20 hours ago I started getting some holes where the balls of my feet sit on the peg, but really up until now it hasn't been very noticeable.

I'm not running ultra sharp Pro Pegs or anything, but I've been happy with them.
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wydopen wrote:
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive...
I also ride on the balls of my feet (rode mtb with clipless pedals for years) and I’ve also noticed the pics I’ve seen of excessive wear are in the arch. For me the most worn part of my boot is actually in front of the replaceable part and is from me repositioning to use the shifter..
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I think you figured it out as I also was a mountain biker first and always rode clipped in and I wear tech 10’s and have...
I think you figured it out as I also was a mountain biker first and always rode clipped in and I wear tech 10’s and have very acceptable wear. I also ride on the balls of my feet so the wear is fairly even. I have one pair with 50ish hours on them and the soles look great and a second set that only have like 6 hours on them so they are basically perfect. I run a semi-aggressive peg too. Seems like the guys that blow through the soles are just on their arches the majority of the time.
Well sounds like a bonus for astars. A boot that doubles as riding coach! Learn to ride on the balls of your feet or have to spend $600 on new boots every year 😂. I tried the Sidi Atojo before the Tech 10. I wanted to like them but they absolutely killed my feet.
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LungButter 6/14/2022 8:35am
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Sounds like disposable boots is how Alpinestars has the budget to throw money at so many Pros to wear their gear.

What kinda profit margin you think they got on those $620 boots?

Anybody know dealer cost?

I'd be f$%&ing irate if I only got 30 hours out of something that I paid that much for.
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Dirtfighter wrote:
Who do you guys use to replace soles? Just switched to tech 10’s no issues so far . Have been using sg12 for years , they...
Who do you guys use to replace soles? Just switched to tech 10’s no issues so far . Have been using sg12 for years , they last and last but the Astars are way more comfortable
I'm in Socal and happened to be In Torrance around the time I needed it replaced so I dropped it off directly at Alpinestars and had them ship it back to me. I talked to them about how fast they wore down and they didn't seem to have an answer or solution. They are a high performance boot.
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jeffoff 6/14/2022 8:47am
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Best boots i ever had.
Have around 50hrs on my tech 10, always sharp ti pegs.
Boots still in good condition, soles start to wear thru but have the black soles replacement parts ready to install.
Next boot will be again tech 10...
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nadeauracing229 6/17/2022 12:48pm
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jeffoff wrote:
Best boots i ever had. Have around 50hrs on my tech 10, always sharp ti pegs. Boots still in good condition, soles start to wear thru...
Best boots i ever had.
Have around 50hrs on my tech 10, always sharp ti pegs.
Boots still in good condition, soles start to wear thru but have the black soles replacement parts ready to install.
Next boot will be again tech 10...
Does anyone have an email for Alpinestars in all seriousness though this can’t be their quality and hopefully they stand by their $600 products
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nadeauracing229 wrote:
Does anyone have an email for Alpinestars in all seriousness though this can’t be their quality and hopefully they stand by their $600 products
I believe THIS is what you are looking for.
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Cygrace74 6/17/2022 1:42pm
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It’s been said many times by the reps. It’s a strictly performance model boot, longevity is not the focus. It’s been a long known problem with them. Maybe don’t buy things without looking into reviews
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LungButter 6/17/2022 1:56pm
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Cygrace74 wrote:
It’s been said many times by the reps. It’s a strictly performance model boot, longevity is not the focus. It’s been a long known problem with...
It’s been said many times by the reps. It’s a strictly performance model boot, longevity is not the focus. It’s been a long known problem with them. Maybe don’t buy things without looking into reviews
I'm bored so I just went to the Tech 10 page on AStars website. You are correct, they do not mention durability a single time anywhere, everything is focused on performance as you mentioned. Gotta give them credit for "owning it" at least.

Gaerne on the other hand mentions durability in the first sentence of the SG12 page.

I guess if you are more concerned about a $600+ investment lasting more than 3 months of riding rather than saving you .001 seconds per lap, then you know where to spend your money.

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Richy 6/17/2022 2:40pm
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That is a fair shout really I guess, same as most things, you want peak performance you deal with it, keep buying them or re-sole'ing them and keep them fresh, otherwise you make whatever compromise works for you personally.

Was just curious where the wide range of lifespan comes from, but I guess it's technique mostly.
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Sandusky26 6/17/2022 2:45pm
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SG-12 vs Tech 10 for a hippy level MX racer? Been a tech 7 guy for a long time and mine are shot after 100 hours.
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jtiger12 6/17/2022 2:57pm
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I switched to sg12s back in 2014. My boots have over 100 hours on them and they look like they can do another 100. I rode astars for a long time, but i cannot afford disposable 500$ boots. You can replace the soles on sg12s with a heat gun, scraper and a 40$ bottle of glue
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jeffoff 6/17/2022 10:34pm
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Same with Alpinestars, I do not get the problem you guys make from it?

Heat gun, pliers and you remove the black part of the sole to replace with a new one.
30euro for the replacement soles, glue included...
As the matetial choice, I once get the explanation they do it for the grip it delivers on the pegs, maybe some impact absorbing also?

On the newer boots they even enlarged the sole area that can easily be replaced.
Also best to replace before it wears until reaching the actual sole, better for the glue.
The whole sole can also be replaced if needed.
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Phantom347 6/18/2022 6:41pm
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I've seen this and other treads with this same complaint, and the same wide ranging experiences.

I believe the OP and those replying are doing so in good faith.

I think the underlying cause may be something that hasn't been mentioned yet to my knowledge.

Could the chemicals and products some use to clean their boots be making the materials weaker or more brittle?

Maybe even the chemicals and products we use in the shop or on the bike are making their way onto the boots.

Are certain plastic and rubber compounds more resistant to these chemicals and products?

I had a similar experience using aerosol foaming window cleaner causing cracks on lexan goggle lenses and race car windows.

Certain tire companies advise against using any petroleum based products, like some tire shines, on their tires for this reason.

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