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Edited Date/Time 4/27/2012 6:29pm
Roczen looked awesome on that bike! 2 great starts & a strong 2nd, looked like he had more speed than Short as well. I was torn, really wanted to see Short win his first but also really want to see the 350 on the top step. The end result was still great for both. Guessing RV is out the next 2, there's still a chance to see the 350 on top.
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dcg141 4/21/2012 11:05pm
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Havent you been here before?..Vital deemed the 350 a POS last year.
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Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
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Faceaz 4/21/2012 11:08pm
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I know, there's no replacement for displacement.... LOL
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bd wrote:
Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
Hard to beat a 450 outdoors.

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madmaxperformance 4/21/2012 11:09pm
4/21/2012 11:09pm
There is no possible way that KTM 350 could be on the podium. All the geniuses on here say so. And, we all know how much most of the rocket scientists on here know. So... 350 podiuming and in a battle for the win. No way. Not gonna happen. Oh... wait.... Rocky did what? On what bike....? Nevermind.
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dcg141 4/21/2012 11:12pm
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Hey guess what..the 350 is not going away either..much like many in here predicited. Just wait till you see what new stuff KTM has coming for 2013.
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bd 4/21/2012 11:15pm
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Would love to see a KTM 250SX vs a KTM350SXF. Bet they are close.... also makes me believe Rozen would have been top 5 on that bike.
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berniepiet 4/21/2012 11:18pm
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dcg141 wrote:
Havent you been here before?..Vital deemed the 350 a POS last year.
Oh, yeah. Forgot about that.

Seriously though, the 350 is a capable machine in the hands of the right rider. My opinion is, the right rider is one who is a fast 250F rider because the bike needs to be ridden like a 250F in order to reach it's full potential.

In 2011 Andrew Short and Mike Alessi rode the 350. Both of them had both been on 450's for a while. I have ridden and raced both the KTM 450 and 350. They are worlds apart. I currently race the 450.

Ken Roczen's Exuberant, youthful, hang-it-out there style is better suited the 350. I guess we will see in the next few races.

Just my humble opinion.

P.S. Is this the place where I insert my JS7 JGR comment? Wink
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jemcee 4/21/2012 11:18pm
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madmaxperformance wrote:
There is no possible way that KTM 350 could be on the podium. All the geniuses on here say so. And, we all know how much...
There is no possible way that KTM 350 could be on the podium. All the geniuses on here say so. And, we all know how much most of the rocket scientists on here know. So... 350 podiuming and in a battle for the win. No way. Not gonna happen. Oh... wait.... Rocky did what? On what bike....? Nevermind.
nah I heard it had a different deeper tone than other 350's so obviously it's a 380 or 400... everyone knows they are using every possible amount of power that the 450 produces
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Derpin' DJ 4/21/2012 11:20pm
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Oh, yeah. Forgot about that. Seriously though, the 350 is a capable machine in the hands of the right rider. My opinion is, the right rider...
Oh, yeah. Forgot about that.

Seriously though, the 350 is a capable machine in the hands of the right rider. My opinion is, the right rider is one who is a fast 250F rider because the bike needs to be ridden like a 250F in order to reach it's full potential.

In 2011 Andrew Short and Mike Alessi rode the 350. Both of them had both been on 450's for a while. I have ridden and raced both the KTM 450 and 350. They are worlds apart. I currently race the 450.

Ken Roczen's Exuberant, youthful, hang-it-out there style is better suited the 350. I guess we will see in the next few races.

Just my humble opinion.

P.S. Is this the place where I insert my JS7 JGR comment? Wink
Sure why not. Feel free to bring 2-strokes into the discussion, as well as Europe vs America if you want
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Faceaz 4/21/2012 11:20pm
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dcg141 wrote:
Havent you been here before?..Vital deemed the 350 a POS last year.
berniepiet wrote:
Oh, yeah. Forgot about that. Seriously though, the 350 is a capable machine in the hands of the right rider. My opinion is, the right rider...
Oh, yeah. Forgot about that.

Seriously though, the 350 is a capable machine in the hands of the right rider. My opinion is, the right rider is one who is a fast 250F rider because the bike needs to be ridden like a 250F in order to reach it's full potential.

In 2011 Andrew Short and Mike Alessi rode the 350. Both of them had both been on 450's for a while. I have ridden and raced both the KTM 450 and 350. They are worlds apart. I currently race the 450.

Ken Roczen's Exuberant, youthful, hang-it-out there style is better suited the 350. I guess we will see in the next few races.

Just my humble opinion.

P.S. Is this the place where I insert my JS7 JGR comment? Wink
^^^^ This ^^^
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ATKpilot99 4/21/2012 11:57pm
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A 350 on the podium and a carbureted bike winning the 250s...whats this world coming too?
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
A 350 on the podium and a carbureted bike winning the 250s...whats this world coming too?
+1
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Derpin' DJ 4/22/2012 12:11am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
A 350 on the podium and a carbureted bike winning the 250s...whats this world coming too?
At least there wasn't a 2-stroke involved. I think I would have to quit Vital at that point
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ocscottie 4/22/2012 12:48am
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Kenny just tweeted: 350 is all u need to win a championship. end of story Laughing
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Katoom72 4/22/2012 12:58am
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shows what K-roc is made off, future dominator of the sport!
TripleDigit 4/22/2012 2:25am
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ocscottie wrote:
Kenny just tweeted: 350 is all u need to win a championship. end of story Laughing
Ha Ha that's awesome,Sig material there Laughing

It's interesting how Short,Kenny and Alessi all finished and their current and previous relation to the bike,Musquin had a 4th on it too.It has to be accepted as a legitimate choice,the 350 will only get better too,it should be plenty in SX,and outdoors also.Roczen did look faster earlier on but said he got tired and was hanging on at the end,I was rooting for him to win but like most was happy for Short and the cat and mouse passing was awesome and clean,unlike the 250s Sad
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barrs211 4/22/2012 3:04am
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bd wrote:
Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
Faceaz wrote:
Hard to beat a 450 outdoors.
Are you kidding me? Carroili went a hole season on a 350 last year and managed to win the World FIM Championship.. By luck but thats racing!

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Derpin' DJ 4/22/2012 3:07am
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He's won 2 world titles on that bike actually
Motocross83 4/22/2012 3:11am
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bd wrote:
Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
Faceaz wrote:
Hard to beat a 450 outdoors.
barrs211 wrote:
Are you kidding me? Carroili went a hole season on a 350 last year and managed to win the World FIM Championship.. By luck but thats...
Are you kidding me? Carroili went a hole season on a 350 last year and managed to win the World FIM Championship.. By luck but thats racing!
I think the 350 will have harder time of it on the AMA outdoor scene, than it does in the GPs.
The National tracks favour horsepower.

I'm not against the 350 but I also think the privateer or smaller teams will always have a better chance on the 450.
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Faceaz 4/22/2012 6:23am
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bd wrote:
Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
Faceaz wrote:
Hard to beat a 450 outdoors.
barrs211 wrote:
Are you kidding me? Carroili went a hole season on a 350 last year and managed to win the World FIM Championship.. By luck but thats...
Are you kidding me? Carroili went a hole season on a 350 last year and managed to win the World FIM Championship.. By luck but thats racing!
I'm a huge 350 supporter, but I'm honest too. IMO, the outdoors with the speed, hills & sand are about the only place where riders go WOT @ times on a 450. Obviously the 450 does have more power & if you only use it a few seconds per lap, that's still an advantage. Because of the FIM Rules, the 350 will not prove itself outdoors, till it does it in the USA. I definitely think it's possible for the 350 to win outdoors with the right rider, but it's not for everyone.
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honda341 4/22/2012 6:43am
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ocscottie wrote:
Kenny just tweeted: 350 is all u need to win a championship. end of story Laughing
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Ha Ha that's awesome,Sig material there :laugh: It's interesting how Short,Kenny and Alessi all finished and their current and previous relation to the bike,Musquin had a...
Ha Ha that's awesome,Sig material there Laughing

It's interesting how Short,Kenny and Alessi all finished and their current and previous relation to the bike,Musquin had a 4th on it too.It has to be accepted as a legitimate choice,the 350 will only get better too,it should be plenty in SX,and outdoors also.Roczen did look faster earlier on but said he got tired and was hanging on at the end,I was rooting for him to win but like most was happy for Short and the cat and mouse passing was awesome and clean,unlike the 250s Sad
haha he got tired? That's funny. I thought the 350 was supposed to keep a rider from getting tired. There goes that marketing scheme. Not an attack at you 3digit. Just at all of those that believe the hype.
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Derpin' DJ 4/22/2012 6:52am
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Kinda invalid when you're talking about a lites rider though
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honda341 4/22/2012 6:54am
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Riders only train for 15 laps? Man he has a lot of work to put in to get ready for nationals. That's gonna be an extra 15 minutes he needs to work on. So much for Roczen domination if he can only do 15 minutes hard.
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Faceaz 4/22/2012 7:11am
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ocscottie wrote:
Kenny just tweeted: 350 is all u need to win a championship. end of story Laughing
TripleDigit wrote:
Ha Ha that's awesome,Sig material there :laugh: It's interesting how Short,Kenny and Alessi all finished and their current and previous relation to the bike,Musquin had a...
Ha Ha that's awesome,Sig material there Laughing

It's interesting how Short,Kenny and Alessi all finished and their current and previous relation to the bike,Musquin had a 4th on it too.It has to be accepted as a legitimate choice,the 350 will only get better too,it should be plenty in SX,and outdoors also.Roczen did look faster earlier on but said he got tired and was hanging on at the end,I was rooting for him to win but like most was happy for Short and the cat and mouse passing was awesome and clean,unlike the 250s Sad
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haha he got tired? That's funny. I thought the 350 was supposed to keep a rider from getting tired. There goes that marketing scheme. Not an...
haha he got tired? That's funny. I thought the 350 was supposed to keep a rider from getting tired. There goes that marketing scheme. Not an attack at you 3digit. Just at all of those that believe the hype.
Doesn't mean anything. No bike is designed to "keep a rider from getting tired", every bike will inherently wear you out. Fact is, he came from the lights to Supercross then challanged for the lead, he probably had a huge adrenaline rush & subsequent dump. Get those jitters out of the way with some experience in the big boy class & I'm sure it will go away.
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honda341 4/22/2012 7:27am
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I believe that Barcia did the same thing on a 450 last year in the outdoors and that was while the big names were actually racing and battling for a championship ie Dungey and Villopoto. He rode 35 minutes hard. Yes the 350 was designed to be, lets say, "less tiring." Less motor equals less weight and less of a pull on the arms. In other words it is designed to keep a rider from getting tired. again.... Don't believe the hype.
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SlowMoFo 4/22/2012 7:31am
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bd wrote:
Think the 350F is a great bike..... def in the mix in SX. However, RD5 on 350F or 450F at GH? 450F wins hands down.
Faceaz wrote:
Hard to beat a 450 outdoors.
Not for Antonio Carioli!
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honda341 4/22/2012 7:33am
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Didn't he get beat today?
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Faceaz 4/22/2012 7:35am
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Happens all the time, a rider coming up from the lights, get's the jitters going, a little over anxious, then all that energy dumps - has nothing to do with the bike (not to mention all the Red Bull LOL. - maybe he should rethink having 2 before every race). For every one example (Barcia), there are plenty more the other direction. Less tiring - yes, keep a rider from getting tired - no. Like I said, doesn't mean anything.
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SlowMoFo 4/22/2012 7:37am
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honda341 wrote:
Didn't he get beat today?
Yes, but he has also bagged 2 championships on the bike!

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