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austinlayton Added a reply to 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 2:13pm
Internal gearing or sprocket(s)? I run a 14/ 52 on the 450 now and know you can do the same on the 250f (I know its uncommon, but it made a big difference on the 450, the bike settled better on decel and into the corners and 3rd was usable in more places)

Rickyisms Liked a reply to forum topic 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 1:14pm
4 stroke motor work is a lot more expensive than an air-to-spring conversion. If you’re looking to retain a stock bore with a 250 and get yourself a built motor I highly suggest dialing up 3-4 well known builders with all of your questions. A 250f with a built motor is a lot of upkeep and a lot harder to resale on the private market.
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zman721 Liked a reply to forum topic 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 1:13pm
I've had great luck with the combination of a cylinder works big bore kit and the GYTR head on yz250f's. I've had this combo on my 2021 for years and before that did the same to a 2015. I go to an aftermarket clutch when I do it, but I'm a clutch abuser. Other then that I have not ran into any reliability problems. Solid power, that still runs on pump gas and isn't relying on more rpms or anything. Its power is not a 350, but its alot more then a stock 250. As far as the cam chain...
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austinlayton Added a reply to 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 10:07am
Sweet, that makes sense! I know Twisted Development came out with an airbox/Vortex kit to help with some bottom end - has anyone heard about/ tested this (I've watched the Motocross Action video on it - seems to be solid but curious on that vs second injector)?

austinlayton Added a reply to 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 9:34am
The biggest issue I have with the 350 is the suspension. I've looked at them A LOT, but im not a fan of the rider triangle, chassis feel on the 23, and air suspension(I would immediately do a spring conversion which gets expensive quick, especially when most everything I have on the 450 will switch over to the 250).

Rider 5280 Liked a reply to forum topic 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 9:26am
I'd call XPR and Twisted Development (TD) and explain what you're after and see what they recommend. I know near us in Colorado there is a guy named Bruce (?) Sass, but I think he's retired. I understand he does still do work by appointment, however. That said, XPR and TD are super tuned into the latest bikes and what you're seeking.
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austinlayton Started a new thread 24 Yz250f Engine Work

4/22/2024 8:29am
Hey Guys, Im looking at moving away from my 23 yz450f to a 24 yz250f. As I get faster on the 450 I feel there is a fine line to ride before hitting that 'oh shit' moment, plus I miss throwing around a 250. I went to the 450 because I liked how connected the power was to the ground...
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Timo Liked a reply to forum topic Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 7:30pm
Have you gone all the way down on timing map? If not, set the fuel to the smooth map and then bottom out the timing. If it's too smooth you can always add more timing back in. After 5 years of the Yamaha tuning app I find a happy setting for fuel and then just use timing to adjust the power.
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CarlinoJoeVideo Liked a reply to forum topic Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 6:52pm
Hey Austin, yes I came off the 23 Husky. Sold it after 15 hours because I just couldn’t get comfortable when the track got dry and rough. If I was you, I’d try comp all the way open then adjust rebound to fit your style. If it’s still stiff, then it’s springs. Or oil level. My suspension is valved by Enzo from previous owner. Check out some data from suspension acquisition I mounted on my bike last week. Fork was with clickers wide open Vs shock is like 4 clicks from closed. In my opinion rear is soft(or correct), front...
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austinlayton Added a reply to Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 6:48pm
I’ll give this a shot, I was worried about playing with timing too much as I thought this could affect some longevity in the engine/ exhaust gases getting to hot, etc (But then again Yamaha wouldn’t allow you to adjust -10 if it wasn’t safe right?) maybe just my cautious thinking/ lack of tuning knowledge haha

austinlayton Added a reply to Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 6:45pm
Thanks for this! I pretty much grew up on a 250 as I started riding late (at 13, I should’ve started on a 125 haha). After getting the mod crf I definitely knew I needed to learn how to ride it and focus on some more techniques, so I purchased a 22 yz125 and spent a season on it to...

austinlayton Added a reply to Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 6:27pm
I’ll give this a try! I was worried that it was too soft and sits too low in the stroke but I didn’t notice it blowing through on any of the jumps. Worth a shot though! Thanks!

Abean3 Liked a reply to forum topic Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 6:25pm
I have had luck smoothing the power out by adding fuel to every position and reducing ignition in every position, but also adjusting the throttle % value on the map. Take a look at the maps on Keefer's site to see the throttle % value's he used in his maps and mirror those. My favorite so far is simple, just +3 on fuel and -3 on ignition across the map with lower throttle % values like the Keefer maps. This has a little more power than the smooth map, but feels more linear and smooth across the range. This will...
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austinlayton Added a reply to Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 5:01pm
I believe I have read it! From what I gather my next step could be running that 14/52 gearing and running the rear axle as far back as I can (maybe get some ride engineering blocks). Coming off the Honda I’m kinda use to a little twitch as I rode a stock before the mod so I’m hoping if/when I...

austinlayton Added a reply to Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 4:56pm
Did you try the 23 350f and move from there? I’m still considering it but wanted to work with the Yamaha more before I make the decision. I’ve heard it was a big improvement but thought I’d be saving money by going with the Yamaha to avoid putting in a vortex and a spring suspension conversion as I’ve grown up...

austinlayton Started a new thread Advice on 23 yz450f Setup

11/6/2023 11:42am
Hey all, I recently upgraded from a mod 2020 crf250r (vortex, Tokyo Mods motor, a-kit cone valve suspension, etc) to a 23 yz450f. I was deciding between the new 350f or yz450f and went with the Yamaha. I’m liking it a lot so far but trying to adjust to the power to see if I mad the right decision, I've...
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