James Stewart Arrest Perspective

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I did go too far on that one and no, I do not hope he is shot to death and I apologize for saying that..How about...
I did go too far on that one and no, I do not hope he is shot to death and I apologize for saying that..How about if they just shoot him in the ass? No..... still too much,Ok How about this ...... If he gets caught with his illegal concealed weapon I hope the police put the fear of GOD in him during his arrest and then maybe he won't think it is no big deal to commit a felony.
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I wish more people would ask themselves whether laws are right. If people just stop obeying BS laws, and enough of them do it, the laws...
I wish more people would ask themselves whether laws are right. If people just stop obeying BS laws, and enough of them do it, the laws get changed. That's what's slowly happening with marijuana, for example.
Sherwood wrote:
Impersonating an officer is a bull shit law?
yeah, i'm going to put some lights in my truck so i can show the establishment how stupid the law is.

fuckin great logic Steve, your lack of common sense is baffling.
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Pull Ova! Pull Ova!!!


"What is this? What is this?"
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Pull Ova! Pull Ova!!!
Racer92 wrote:
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"What is this? What is this?"
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jasonv43 wrote:
Pull Ova! Pull Ova!!!
Racer92 wrote:
[img]http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/03/images/eddie.jpg[/img] "What is this? What is this?"


"What is this? What is this?"
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Haha!!!!

Nice.
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EmDub425 wrote:
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok...
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok. There would be a lot less issues in this country if people followed laws.

I have never done anything like this, not would I. For people like me who try to be good citizens and always do the right thing, this kind of shit pisses me off. ya he wasn't harming anyone but he shouldn't have been doing what he was doing plain and simple.

By the way Cox, I wanted to back Dunes last night before you guys went on Pulp, But you owned him. IMO
Absolutely agree! What normal person does that? To sit there and contemplate putting police lights in your car? How old is this guy? I am sick of idiots have disregard for normal behavior. They must pay a penalty that has such an effect as they may take pause when next contemplating any act bereft of any social thoughtfulness. Ryan Dungey may be considered boring but you can bet your bottom dollar that he would not even contemplate shite like this.... Why? Maturity. Plain and simple. Grow up James, you know kids are watching.
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4/1/2011 3:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2011 4:27pm
EmDub425 wrote:
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok...
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok. There would be a lot less issues in this country if people followed laws.

I have never done anything like this, not would I. For people like me who try to be good citizens and always do the right thing, this kind of shit pisses me off. ya he wasn't harming anyone but he shouldn't have been doing what he was doing plain and simple.

By the way Cox, I wanted to back Dunes last night before you guys went on Pulp, But you owned him. IMO
n928tc wrote:
Absolutely agree! What normal person does that? To sit there and contemplate putting police lights in your car? How old is this guy? I am sick...
Absolutely agree! What normal person does that? To sit there and contemplate putting police lights in your car? How old is this guy? I am sick of idiots have disregard for normal behavior. They must pay a penalty that has such an effect as they may take pause when next contemplating any act bereft of any social thoughtfulness. Ryan Dungey may be considered boring but you can bet your bottom dollar that he would not even contemplate shite like this.... Why? Maturity. Plain and simple. Grow up James, you know kids are watching.
There are millions of so called "normal" people that do stupid shit every day. Smile
It is called human nature....or really not using your dam head ,IMO.

As for him contemplating on putting police lights on his car.
I would assume he bought them as a novelty (people buy stupid shit like that all the time - that is why they sell them) and put them in his truck and him and his buddy thought it would be funny to play with them every now and then....like a couple of kids.
I'm sure what they thought they were doing was harmless....for the simple reason that they didn't put much thought into it at all.
I'm sure they are thinking about it now though. Wink

He is paying his dues or will.

Today was his first day in court regarding this matter I believe.

04/01/2011 Notice of Appearance; Waiver of Arraignment
04/01/2011 Motion for Statement of Particulars
04/01/2011 Written Plea of Not Guilty
04/01/2011 Request for Discovery
04/01/2011 Motion to Produce Police Reports
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4/1/2011 5:55pm
I think the ama should suspend his license at the very least. SX is a family sport, the last thing it needs is one of its riders that is in the spot light being a criminal.
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4/1/2011 6:42pm
13 pages of nonsense. Bleh.
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4/1/2011 6:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2011 6:49pm
He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he did was put some lights on his truck. He never intended to stop anyone, he just put some lights on his dash. Seriously use some common sense here. If his copilot was a true player he should have taken that little rap.
Suspend his licence for putting lights on his dash? Either that's sarcasm or the dumbest thing posted in this thread and out dumbing Nerd takes something, you have to be born with that stuff. I bet some of the same people that defended Michael Vick are trying to act like Bubba did something here, I should have taken notes, haters. He put lights on his dash, calm the fuck down. Free Bubba! I have 300.00 bucks on you this week James Mark! I am in the hole big time man quit messing around ................................Dude!
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He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he...
He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he did was put some lights on his truck. He never intended to stop anyone, he just put some lights on his dash. Seriously use some common sense here. If his copilot was a true player he should have taken that little rap.
Suspend his licence for putting lights on his dash? Either that's sarcasm or the dumbest thing posted in this thread and out dumbing Nerd takes something, you have to be born with that stuff. I bet some of the same people that defended Michael Vick are trying to act like Bubba did something here, I should have taken notes, haters. He put lights on his dash, calm the fuck down. Free Bubba! I have 300.00 bucks on you this week James Mark! I am in the hole big time man quit messing around ................................Dude!
Your oversimplification should invoke a posting license revocation .
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EmDub425 wrote:
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok...
So because he is famous it's ok? I am so tired of famous people thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want and it's ok. There would be a lot less issues in this country if people followed laws.

I have never done anything like this, not would I. For people like me who try to be good citizens and always do the right thing, this kind of shit pisses me off. ya he wasn't harming anyone but he shouldn't have been doing what he was doing plain and simple.

By the way Cox, I wanted to back Dunes last night before you guys went on Pulp, But you owned him. IMO
n928tc wrote:
Absolutely agree! What normal person does that? To sit there and contemplate putting police lights in your car? How old is this guy? I am sick...
Absolutely agree! What normal person does that? To sit there and contemplate putting police lights in your car? How old is this guy? I am sick of idiots have disregard for normal behavior. They must pay a penalty that has such an effect as they may take pause when next contemplating any act bereft of any social thoughtfulness. Ryan Dungey may be considered boring but you can bet your bottom dollar that he would not even contemplate shite like this.... Why? Maturity. Plain and simple. Grow up James, you know kids are watching.
You don't get to judge what's normal. James Stewart a menace to society! Har.
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He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he...
He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he did was put some lights on his truck. He never intended to stop anyone, he just put some lights on his dash. Seriously use some common sense here. If his copilot was a true player he should have taken that little rap.
Suspend his licence for putting lights on his dash? Either that's sarcasm or the dumbest thing posted in this thread and out dumbing Nerd takes something, you have to be born with that stuff. I bet some of the same people that defended Michael Vick are trying to act like Bubba did something here, I should have taken notes, haters. He put lights on his dash, calm the fuck down. Free Bubba! I have 300.00 bucks on you this week James Mark! I am in the hole big time man quit messing around ................................Dude!
You should be Stewart's attorney. You can make that same argument in front of a judge. Let us know how it works out.
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4/1/2011 8:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2011 8:26pm
pamoto wrote:
You should be Stewart's attorney. You can make that same argument in front of a judge. Let us know how it works out.
"Your Honor, my clients did not intend any harm,this is the kind of stuff they do for fun ".

"I present you Exhibit #1 "
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James made a mistake. BFD. Here is my philosophy about such matters; Matters that Matter to Only the Mad Hatter™ (That's Me, Folks):

Every day, every human being, past, present, or future, makes mistakes; some small and meaningless, others large and of great impact. So it can be said, completely and unequivocally, that no one is perfect. Those that claim they are perfect or don’t make mistakes everyday are liars of the worst sort. Understand too that while most mistakes can be rectified to a small or large degree, and that many mistakes have little or no consequences, there are some mistakes that have severe consequences that can’t be rectified adequately and for which you will pay a great price. It goes without saying, try to avoid these grave errors at all costs; and remember that hubris in defending your mistakes may turn what would have been an inconsequential error into a grievous one. HUMAN NATURE 101

My Two Cents™ . . .

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He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he...
He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he did was put some lights on his truck. He never intended to stop anyone, he just put some lights on his dash. Seriously use some common sense here. If his copilot was a true player he should have taken that little rap.
Suspend his licence for putting lights on his dash? Either that's sarcasm or the dumbest thing posted in this thread and out dumbing Nerd takes something, you have to be born with that stuff. I bet some of the same people that defended Michael Vick are trying to act like Bubba did something here, I should have taken notes, haters. He put lights on his dash, calm the fuck down. Free Bubba! I have 300.00 bucks on you this week James Mark! I am in the hole big time man quit messing around ................................Dude!
I like this part "Seriously use some common sense here"

Maybe JS could of used some common sense instead? I know the laws in my state/country if I was to use cop lights in my car on public roads and get caught, theres no way I'd even consider risking it. Unfortunately we live in a different world compared to the 80's or even 90's because of what people have done over the years to have laws changed and things be so strict.
4/2/2011 12:53am Edited Date/Time 4/2/2011 12:54am
James made a mistake. BFD. Here is my philosophy about such matters; Matters that Matter to Only the Mad Hatter™ (That's Me, Folks): Every day, every...
James made a mistake. BFD. Here is my philosophy about such matters; Matters that Matter to Only the Mad Hatter™ (That's Me, Folks):

Every day, every human being, past, present, or future, makes mistakes; some small and meaningless, others large and of great impact. So it can be said, completely and unequivocally, that no one is perfect. Those that claim they are perfect or don’t make mistakes everyday are liars of the worst sort. Understand too that while most mistakes can be rectified to a small or large degree, and that many mistakes have little or no consequences, there are some mistakes that have severe consequences that can’t be rectified adequately and for which you will pay a great price. It goes without saying, try to avoid these grave errors at all costs; and remember that hubris in defending your mistakes may turn what would have been an inconsequential error into a grievous one. HUMAN NATURE 101

My Two Cents™ . . .

Sighs,

Dr. Flippin' Zeus™
hear ye, hear ye. yo
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I heard Brick killed a guy with a trident. Still walks the streets.
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FastEddy wrote:
"Your Honor, my clients did not intend any harm,this is the kind of stuff they do for fun ".

"I present you Exhibit #1 "
https://youtu.be/P3-l5k0CrTM
Identity theft! Identity theft! Somebody call 911 and Rick James pronto.
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Identity theft! Identity theft! Somebody call 911 and Rick James pronto.
Don't think Rick James would care, he has been dead for several years. "cocaine is a helluva drug"
4/2/2011 9:15am
Forget for a second 'who' was arrested. Then think about the crime and factor in past history of law violations.
I don't care if it was for a stunt or joke or whatever.
What if it was YOU. Do you think you deserve a break based on you celebrity status.

He needs to be punished and sent a message that just cuz it's on Bubbles world you aren't above the law.
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Forget for a second 'who' was arrested. Then think about the crime and factor in past history of law violations. I don't care if it was...
Forget for a second 'who' was arrested. Then think about the crime and factor in past history of law violations.
I don't care if it was for a stunt or joke or whatever.
What if it was YOU. Do you think you deserve a break based on you celebrity status.

He needs to be punished and sent a message that just cuz it's on Bubbles world you aren't above the law.
Most idiotic post in this thread.
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He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he...
He put some lights on his dash, just stop a minute and think about it. No one was hurt, nothing happened, just calm down. All he did was put some lights on his truck. He never intended to stop anyone, he just put some lights on his dash. Seriously use some common sense here. If his copilot was a true player he should have taken that little rap.
Suspend his licence for putting lights on his dash? Either that's sarcasm or the dumbest thing posted in this thread and out dumbing Nerd takes something, you have to be born with that stuff. I bet some of the same people that defended Michael Vick are trying to act like Bubba did something here, I should have taken notes, haters. He put lights on his dash, calm the fuck down. Free Bubba! I have 300.00 bucks on you this week James Mark! I am in the hole big time man quit messing around ................................Dude!
pamoto wrote:
You should be Stewart's attorney. You can make that same argument in front of a judge. Let us know how it works out.
WTF? Moran.
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Nerd wrote:
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE...
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE worrying about their own safety, I'm cool with it.

Again, if what they "deal with everyday" is too much, they can come try and hack it in the private sector with the rest of us. I welcome them.
Sorry, but LEOs do NOT agree to a suicide pact when they become employed as officers.

Only an idiot believes such garbage.
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Nerd wrote:
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE...
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE worrying about their own safety, I'm cool with it.

Again, if what they "deal with everyday" is too much, they can come try and hack it in the private sector with the rest of us. I welcome them.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Sorry, but LEOs do NOT agree to a suicide pact when they become employed as officers.

Only an idiot believes such garbage.
Suicide pact? No one's saying that. I'm saying that they do agree to uphold the constitution and the laws and to protect the people, and this isn't just people who aren't suspects or perpetrators.

Agreed?
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Nerd wrote:
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE...
It's not really a concern. As long as they realize that what they're being paid to do is to preserver the rights of the citizens BEFORE worrying about their own safety, I'm cool with it.

Again, if what they "deal with everyday" is too much, they can come try and hack it in the private sector with the rest of us. I welcome them.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Sorry, but LEOs do NOT agree to a suicide pact when they become employed as officers.

Only an idiot believes such garbage.
Nerd wrote:
Suicide pact? No one's saying that. I'm saying that they do agree to uphold the constitution and the laws and to protect the people, and this...
Suicide pact? No one's saying that. I'm saying that they do agree to uphold the constitution and the laws and to protect the people, and this isn't just people who aren't suspects or perpetrators.

Agreed?
No, you said they should do those things BEFORE thinking of their own safety. That's crazy talk, nothing else.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Sorry, but LEOs do NOT agree to a suicide pact when they become employed as officers.

Only an idiot believes such garbage.
Nerd wrote:
Suicide pact? No one's saying that. I'm saying that they do agree to uphold the constitution and the laws and to protect the people, and this...
Suicide pact? No one's saying that. I'm saying that they do agree to uphold the constitution and the laws and to protect the people, and this isn't just people who aren't suspects or perpetrators.

Agreed?
APLMAN99 wrote:
No, you said they should do those things BEFORE thinking of their own safety. That's crazy talk, nothing else.
No, it's not. It's the job they signed up for. They swear to do these things. Where in the oath do they swear to get home to their families?
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So you ARE arguing that LEOs agree to a suicide pact.

That's complete bullshit, you know it.

Show me the oathes you are referring to that specifically require an offficer to die while enforcing the law. Just 10 would be fine......
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So you ARE arguing that LEOs agree to a suicide pact. That's complete bullshit, you know it. Show me the oathes you are referring to that...
So you ARE arguing that LEOs agree to a suicide pact.

That's complete bullshit, you know it.

Show me the oathes you are referring to that specifically require an offficer to die while enforcing the law. Just 10 would be fine......
That's not what I'm saying at all. They take an oath to do what I said they take an oath to do. And because this is their oath, they know their job is going to put them in harm's way.

For example, they have very specific standards for what allows them to shoot someone, and it's much more stringent than a civilian. For civilians, you can more or less make a case that you felt threatened, and as long as your gun is registered or the like, it's self-defense. But for cops, they can't do that. They have to think about the rights of the person they would potentially be shooting and how those rights may be violated by doing so, regardless of "feeling threatened".

They don't take a suicide pact, like you keep insisting with your ridiculous strawman argument. But what they do is take an oath to uphold the law, the constitution, and protect the civilians, and those civilians include the people they will be arresting, or attempting to arrest.

Another example: If a guy comes to you swinging, you can grab something nearby and crack him in the skull so that he stops because it's self-defense. However, if a police officer pulls someone over, and that person is combative, the officer cannot give him a night club to the skull. All he's allowed to do, by law, is the minimum that is reasonably required to subdue the person. Why? Because for the police officer, it's not about self defense, it's about serving the civilians, and that person is a civilian, too.

Not that I think you're going to get it this time, because you're arguing just to argue and the last thing you'll want to do is admit that I'm right.

But I'm right.
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That's not what I'm saying at all. They take an oath to do what I said they take an oath to do. And because this is...
That's not what I'm saying at all. They take an oath to do what I said they take an oath to do. And because this is their oath, they know their job is going to put them in harm's way.

For example, they have very specific standards for what allows them to shoot someone, and it's much more stringent than a civilian. For civilians, you can more or less make a case that you felt threatened, and as long as your gun is registered or the like, it's self-defense. But for cops, they can't do that. They have to think about the rights of the person they would potentially be shooting and how those rights may be violated by doing so, regardless of "feeling threatened".

They don't take a suicide pact, like you keep insisting with your ridiculous strawman argument. But what they do is take an oath to uphold the law, the constitution, and protect the civilians, and those civilians include the people they will be arresting, or attempting to arrest.

Another example: If a guy comes to you swinging, you can grab something nearby and crack him in the skull so that he stops because it's self-defense. However, if a police officer pulls someone over, and that person is combative, the officer cannot give him a night club to the skull. All he's allowed to do, by law, is the minimum that is reasonably required to subdue the person. Why? Because for the police officer, it's not about self defense, it's about serving the civilians, and that person is a civilian, too.

Not that I think you're going to get it this time, because you're arguing just to argue and the last thing you'll want to do is admit that I'm right.

But I'm right.
I think you are ASSuming a bit too much. Are you serious that a civilian can simply shoot someone and claim to have felt threatened and it's automatically "self defense"? That's almost comical. There'd never be a murder trial in this country if that were the case......

You are the one who introduces the notion that LEOs take a suicide pact, it just didn't sound as stupid as it is until someone pointed it out to you.

Any progress on those 10 oathes that you claim to know so much about?

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