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SIMX 3/22/2011 7:26am
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You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out...
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out the door I go.

These racers are fully aware they have a short window to make some of the money back. Izzi is 20 years old, and if he keeps doing what he has been doing, its over. He is a man now, with a girlfriend and kid. Maybe the attitude has changed but I thoought a man raises his kid and supports it. The rap deal just makes him look like an idiot. He isn't a boy from the hood, he is a motocross racer that lived with his mom in a motorhome until he was 17 or 18.

When a man has a kid, his career becomes a job and his dog becomes a dog. Stop making bullshit excuses.
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There comes a time where you have to realize what you want with your life. I agree with what some of you are saying about getting burnt out on racing but I disagree with that too. Im 23 years old have a full time job, a wife, a kid, and a house of my own. I still race sx and as many outdoors as I can. I dont get to train and ride as much as I would like but I have other priorities. When it starts to get hard I just take a step back and think of how much fun it is to ride. If some of the riders you guys are talking about worked a real job for say 6 months they would come back to racing. I dont think some the kids that race understand how much they have it made to get paid to race a dirtbike. I have been racing since I was 4 so I fit in the category. I was never a standout amatuer but was always there. I never got burned out. I went to a public school and didnt have everything handed to me. And the whole party thing is just stupid. I have a lot of friends that have plenty of potential to do good but partying is on their mind more than racing. And its not that they are not having fun racing its just they dont know how good they have it. You know the saying "you never know how good something is till its gone" well some riders have to learn the hard way.
BornA'Lil2Slow 3/22/2011 7:58am
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many of you forget, or simply just ignore the fact that IZZI, and many amateur legends like him, are burnt out by the time they reach...
many of you forget, or simply just ignore the fact that IZZI, and many amateur legends like him, are burnt out by the time they reach this age.

he's been a career motocrosser since he could walk. what is he? nearly 20 years old? if you had been pouring your life into your (dads fantasy) career for 15 or so straight years, you too would be looking for ways to release.

top tier athletes can only hold their focus and drive for so long. and it doesnt help things that the types of personalities that do well in mx arent usually ones with high attention spans. the career arc is what it is, for some it started at 4 years old, peaking in their early teens, and for others like dungey, his "career mentality" started much later. dungeys got a lot more in the tank.

choir boy dungey and canard will eventually go thru the same process. he will simply go about it in a very private manner.

bubba has gone thru it, it just hasnt been so well publicized. rc did. mc did. every athlete matures and peaks at a different period in life and a lot has to do with how early things when from fun mx racing to race-dad yelling in your face after every moto.

what izzi's going thru is just human nature and should not be bashed. he's worked extremely hard to get just where he is. being a pro athlete is one of the most demanding professions i can think of. it places demands on a person that 99 percent of people cannot handle, and this board is made up of entirely a bunch of people that couldnt handle pro sports demands otherwise thats what y'all would all be doing right now.

cut the kid some slack, izzi has been pushed extremely hard for a long time. everyone has a breaking point.
BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
agreed..... while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after...
agreed.....

while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after school and on the weekends, these guys we professional athletes with 8 hour training days, regimented diet, no night life, not alot of fun, just ride train, ride train, give up normal teenager stuff, deal with pressure and injury.

They started at 5 or 6, by 11 or 12 have gotten focused, by 20, burned out, and missed a huge part of the fun part of life we all had where we had no real responibility and our biggest goal was hoping to get naked with someone and have a beer and hang out.

Think about it, even if it was horrible for you, think of the fun you had from 15 to 20. As bad as it could have gotten for those "i had to work from 3 pm after school until 2 am guys", it still didnt have the pressure, lack of social life, sacrificing the things we all did.

I think the main reason we expect so much from these guys, is because they can do something we can only dream of and all we think of is the speed, not what it took and takes daily to go that speed! We try to live vicariously thru them and only want the good part, not the rest...... makes us all about the worst "mini parent" there is.

One last thing.... we all ride for fun. I was given some very sage advice once, and it holds true today...... never take something you enjoy doing for fun and turn it into a job you have to do, you will hate it quickly.
thatdad wrote:
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out...
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out the door I go.

These racers are fully aware they have a short window to make some of the money back. Izzi is 20 years old, and if he keeps doing what he has been doing, its over. He is a man now, with a girlfriend and kid. Maybe the attitude has changed but I thoought a man raises his kid and supports it. The rap deal just makes him look like an idiot. He isn't a boy from the hood, he is a motocross racer that lived with his mom in a motorhome until he was 17 or 18.

When a man has a kid, his career becomes a job and his dog becomes a dog. Stop making bullshit excuses.
do you know what though.... yes, you and me, after 20 years show up and do our job. We have to, its our JOB.

funny thing about my job, dont know about yours. If i make a minor misstep, i dont get a broken leg. If I show up, and go thru the motions, and just enough to get the job done properly, I still have a job, so do you. Here is the crux of it, do you strive and push to be the very best at what you do continually? Do you push and go that extra 3 miles daily? No, you do what I do, you get the job at hand done, punch in on time, try not to mess up, and meet your quota when we both know we could go beyond our quota if we just had a bit more desire to.

If these guys show up, and just go thru the motions and get the job done, they are in 10th place and our fucked up sport throws them under the bus. Out of the entire planet of people, you are number 10 in a professional sport, and a washed up, useless, undesirable, that better get his act together. Hell, if you are in 20th its even worse! Why, well hes got potential, he could do so much more!....... hes the 20th fastest guy on the planet that night! 6.7 billion people on this orb, and hes the 20th best and we yell at him and think hes a fuck off? wtf?

Also, hes 20, and if he keeps doing what hes doing..... making mains. The rap thing, hey, we all have to blow off steam somehow, but me and you arent under public scrutiny. Sad reality of our sport is guys making the night show dont get paid squat and even sadder, us fans would PAY that amount to be able to do it, its a dream for us and all we dream is the good parts. Its a reality for these guys and they get the good and the bad and the bad entails busting your ass 5 days a week doing something that a minor miss step results in something broken or possibly life ending. Not alot of us have that kind of a job.

And while we both have 2 decade careers, they didnt start at 12 or 13, or 16 or 17, and leave a major part of our lives vacant, our fun as hell teenage years!

I understand you, because I have lived it also. Just showing the other side of the coin. These guys did NOT have our experiences. They live our dreams, dont get our experiences and miss out on a great time we had, and it makes us jaded because we wish we could do this for a living.
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On the other hand, some of the "mini stars" take their career as far as their natural talent will allow them.

They rarely train, they rarely study technique, they rarely succeed.

Perhaps the toughest part about being really fast as a mini kid is realizing that you weren't the only one that was kicking everyone's ass at the regionals. There were other kids out there doing the same, and some of them actually took it seriously. RC and JS are two prime examples.

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And then again, sometimes kids who are treated like rockstars from the time they sign their first amateur contract become more enamored with the "scene" surrounding the sport than the sport itself. Has nothing to do with Daddy issues, more to do with a kid that would rather party and surround himself with enablers and yes men than get serious and try to make a living out of their unbelievable God-given talent.

Some kids actually get beaten down with injuries despite best efforts - Robbie Reynard comes to mind. Other kids use injuries to mask what is really going on, and there are at least two glaring examples of this in the sport right now.
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thatdad 3/22/2011 8:56am
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BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
agreed..... while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after...
agreed.....

while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after school and on the weekends, these guys we professional athletes with 8 hour training days, regimented diet, no night life, not alot of fun, just ride train, ride train, give up normal teenager stuff, deal with pressure and injury.

They started at 5 or 6, by 11 or 12 have gotten focused, by 20, burned out, and missed a huge part of the fun part of life we all had where we had no real responibility and our biggest goal was hoping to get naked with someone and have a beer and hang out.

Think about it, even if it was horrible for you, think of the fun you had from 15 to 20. As bad as it could have gotten for those "i had to work from 3 pm after school until 2 am guys", it still didnt have the pressure, lack of social life, sacrificing the things we all did.

I think the main reason we expect so much from these guys, is because they can do something we can only dream of and all we think of is the speed, not what it took and takes daily to go that speed! We try to live vicariously thru them and only want the good part, not the rest...... makes us all about the worst "mini parent" there is.

One last thing.... we all ride for fun. I was given some very sage advice once, and it holds true today...... never take something you enjoy doing for fun and turn it into a job you have to do, you will hate it quickly.
thatdad wrote:
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out...
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out the door I go.

These racers are fully aware they have a short window to make some of the money back. Izzi is 20 years old, and if he keeps doing what he has been doing, its over. He is a man now, with a girlfriend and kid. Maybe the attitude has changed but I thoought a man raises his kid and supports it. The rap deal just makes him look like an idiot. He isn't a boy from the hood, he is a motocross racer that lived with his mom in a motorhome until he was 17 or 18.

When a man has a kid, his career becomes a job and his dog becomes a dog. Stop making bullshit excuses.
BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
do you know what though.... yes, you and me, after 20 years show up and do our job. We have to, its our JOB. funny thing...
do you know what though.... yes, you and me, after 20 years show up and do our job. We have to, its our JOB.

funny thing about my job, dont know about yours. If i make a minor misstep, i dont get a broken leg. If I show up, and go thru the motions, and just enough to get the job done properly, I still have a job, so do you. Here is the crux of it, do you strive and push to be the very best at what you do continually? Do you push and go that extra 3 miles daily? No, you do what I do, you get the job at hand done, punch in on time, try not to mess up, and meet your quota when we both know we could go beyond our quota if we just had a bit more desire to.

If these guys show up, and just go thru the motions and get the job done, they are in 10th place and our fucked up sport throws them under the bus. Out of the entire planet of people, you are number 10 in a professional sport, and a washed up, useless, undesirable, that better get his act together. Hell, if you are in 20th its even worse! Why, well hes got potential, he could do so much more!....... hes the 20th fastest guy on the planet that night! 6.7 billion people on this orb, and hes the 20th best and we yell at him and think hes a fuck off? wtf?

Also, hes 20, and if he keeps doing what hes doing..... making mains. The rap thing, hey, we all have to blow off steam somehow, but me and you arent under public scrutiny. Sad reality of our sport is guys making the night show dont get paid squat and even sadder, us fans would PAY that amount to be able to do it, its a dream for us and all we dream is the good parts. Its a reality for these guys and they get the good and the bad and the bad entails busting your ass 5 days a week doing something that a minor miss step results in something broken or possibly life ending. Not alot of us have that kind of a job.

And while we both have 2 decade careers, they didnt start at 12 or 13, or 16 or 17, and leave a major part of our lives vacant, our fun as hell teenage years!

I understand you, because I have lived it also. Just showing the other side of the coin. These guys did NOT have our experiences. They live our dreams, dont get our experiences and miss out on a great time we had, and it makes us jaded because we wish we could do this for a living.
Nobody said it was easy. You seem like a reasonable, rational guy. If you were in his shoes, with a kid to feed, how long would it take you to figure out that you now have to work for a living? Somehow, racing a dirt bike, and showing respect for the people helping me, would seem reasonable real quick. Pick something else within his skill set, like put a shovel in his hand and point at a ditch to be dug. I am a little slow but maybe ten minutes would set me straight.

I agree you have to really be on your game to make a living, but he has the talent and skill., and without the effort he is wasting his (and his kid's) time. He could get away with blowing off steam rapping if he did his job first. Hell, if he were fast enough he could get away with blowing a rapper.
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Mini Elsinore 3/22/2011 10:05am
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wow123 wrote:
Well said, Not everybody has the family life/structure/parent/s that keep a kid in line, even then some just want out of a sport they've been doing...
Well said,

Not everybody has the family life/structure/parent/s that keep a kid in line,
even then some just want out
of a sport they've been doing for years.

Year and years ago I dropped out of a promising mx career to be a rock star and it worked! not bs.
BM255 wrote:
Are you a rock star we would all recognise?
wow123 wrote:
Not unless you are an aussie and atleast over 40....lol
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Mod Killer wrote:
many of you forget, or simply just ignore the fact that IZZI, and many amateur legends like him, are burnt out by the time they reach...
many of you forget, or simply just ignore the fact that IZZI, and many amateur legends like him, are burnt out by the time they reach this age.

he's been a career motocrosser since he could walk. what is he? nearly 20 years old? if you had been pouring your life into your (dads fantasy) career for 15 or so straight years, you too would be looking for ways to release.

top tier athletes can only hold their focus and drive for so long. and it doesnt help things that the types of personalities that do well in mx arent usually ones with high attention spans. the career arc is what it is, for some it started at 4 years old, peaking in their early teens, and for others like dungey, his "career mentality" started much later. dungeys got a lot more in the tank.

choir boy dungey and canard will eventually go thru the same process. he will simply go about it in a very private manner.

bubba has gone thru it, it just hasnt been so well publicized. rc did. mc did. every athlete matures and peaks at a different period in life and a lot has to do with how early things when from fun mx racing to race-dad yelling in your face after every moto.

what izzi's going thru is just human nature and should not be bashed. he's worked extremely hard to get just where he is. being a pro athlete is one of the most demanding professions i can think of. it places demands on a person that 99 percent of people cannot handle, and this board is made up of entirely a bunch of people that couldnt handle pro sports demands otherwise thats what y'all would all be doing right now.

cut the kid some slack, izzi has been pushed extremely hard for a long time. everyone has a breaking point.
BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
agreed..... while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after...
agreed.....

while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after school and on the weekends, these guys we professional athletes with 8 hour training days, regimented diet, no night life, not alot of fun, just ride train, ride train, give up normal teenager stuff, deal with pressure and injury.

They started at 5 or 6, by 11 or 12 have gotten focused, by 20, burned out, and missed a huge part of the fun part of life we all had where we had no real responibility and our biggest goal was hoping to get naked with someone and have a beer and hang out.

Think about it, even if it was horrible for you, think of the fun you had from 15 to 20. As bad as it could have gotten for those "i had to work from 3 pm after school until 2 am guys", it still didnt have the pressure, lack of social life, sacrificing the things we all did.

I think the main reason we expect so much from these guys, is because they can do something we can only dream of and all we think of is the speed, not what it took and takes daily to go that speed! We try to live vicariously thru them and only want the good part, not the rest...... makes us all about the worst "mini parent" there is.

One last thing.... we all ride for fun. I was given some very sage advice once, and it holds true today...... never take something you enjoy doing for fun and turn it into a job you have to do, you will hate it quickly.
thatdad wrote:
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out...
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out the door I go.

These racers are fully aware they have a short window to make some of the money back. Izzi is 20 years old, and if he keeps doing what he has been doing, its over. He is a man now, with a girlfriend and kid. Maybe the attitude has changed but I thoought a man raises his kid and supports it. The rap deal just makes him look like an idiot. He isn't a boy from the hood, he is a motocross racer that lived with his mom in a motorhome until he was 17 or 18.

When a man has a kid, his career becomes a job and his dog becomes a dog. Stop making bullshit excuses.
Comparing a work a day job with high profile, high requirement rarefied position you could only dream about

doesn't quite work out.

Responsibility at 20 only the god fearing superpumped of this world can

and a world without goof offs or fckups means no musicians.......lol

(not the hoodoos unfortunately)
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Yea Izzi has had a rough life LOL!, riding free mx bikes, traveling the world, free gear, and there are pro s and cons in every aspect in life, Some people are grateful for what they have and some are not, because they have had their ass kissed forever, I would love to see some work a real job and i think they will have a better look on life! Can you imagine some of these spoiled dudes pushing blacktop on the roads when its 100+ degrees LOL!
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Yea Izzi has had a rough life LOL!, riding free mx bikes, traveling the world, free gear, and there are pro s and cons in every...
Yea Izzi has had a rough life LOL!, riding free mx bikes, traveling the world, free gear, and there are pro s and cons in every aspect in life, Some people are grateful for what they have and some are not, because they have had their ass kissed forever, I would love to see some work a real job and i think they will have a better look on life! Can you imagine some of these spoiled dudes pushing blacktop on the roads when its 100+ degrees LOL!
lol
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We all love moto, most of us probably found it at an older age, and probably most of us found it on our own, some of you your parents said no way, some of you rode the weekends with your dad, or went camping and rode, weekend warrior types. Most of these phenom kids, they rode, rode well and didn't have a choice, it was their job to race a motorcycle. Parents mortgaged their house, hocked the family farm, did it all so johnny racer would become a factory star, mind you there are about 10 of them factory stars, out of 1,000's upon 1,000's upon 1,000's of racers in the entire US. Lechien comes to mind, gifted beyond gifted, he didn't want to race mx, sure in the beginning, but by the time he was 16 or 17, he was done, he wanted to hang out with friends he never got to see, he wanted to party, he wanted to let off steam. We saw that direction he went it, there's a lot more of those then RC's I am telling you right now. Sit down, make a list of local, not even factory, local fast guys you thought would be factory riders, see where they are today, ask them why they quit, after "doing your job" for 15+ years, you'd understand.

Izzi is fast yes, but look at the guys who came up with him in the ranks, where are all of them? Milsaps? he isn't lighting any fires, who was 811, he was a phenom, raced with Izzi & Milsaps, he isn't even around. Cut some slack on these guys, you work cause you have to, are you doing what you love? Maybe they aren't doing what they love either...just think about it.
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Izzi = Izzin't

He says all this crap in his interviews and Izzin't following up with action. Instead he starts rapping? WTH?
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Who is forcing them to race?, If i am not happy in my employment i will change jobs! Age 18 you are an adult and you can do what you want with your life. I love the sport for sure, but we have to play the cards we are dealt and very few can make a good living racing, then you will have to get a real job! I would love to be a pro athlete, did not happen , so i will work.
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@ MBBadgers

millsapps won a regional supercross championship, and multiple 450 races (including supercross and motocross).

just throwin that out there Smile
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So is it safe to say that these two are "Stable Mates" or "Partners"?
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peelout wrote:
@ MBBadgers

millsapps won a regional supercross championship, and multiple 450 races (including supercross and motocross).

just throwin that out there Smile
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents did, and now he's what 20? he's been on a down-slide since he was what 18? when he could do what he wants. You don't understand, because you haven't been in his shoes, is all I am saying.
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peelout 3/22/2011 12:33pm
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@ MBBadgers

millsapps won a regional supercross championship, and multiple 450 races (including supercross and motocross).

just throwin that out there Smile
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so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents...
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents did, and now he's what 20? he's been on a down-slide since he was what 18? when he could do what he wants. You don't understand, because you haven't been in his shoes, is all I am saying.
i agree with the rest of your post, was just saying although millsapps seems like he hasn't been trying much lately, he does have a lot more to show for his racing
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mxb2 3/22/2011 12:41pm
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peelout wrote:
@ MBBadgers

millsapps won a regional supercross championship, and multiple 450 races (including supercross and motocross).

just throwin that out there Smile
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so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents...
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents did, and now he's what 20? he's been on a down-slide since he was what 18? when he could do what he wants. You don't understand, because you haven't been in his shoes, is all I am saying.
I understand, because he does not want to get a job in the real world LOL!,

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MBBadgers 3/22/2011 12:51pm
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peelout wrote:
@ MBBadgers

millsapps won a regional supercross championship, and multiple 450 races (including supercross and motocross).

just throwin that out there Smile
MBBadgers wrote:
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents...
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents did, and now he's what 20? he's been on a down-slide since he was what 18? when he could do what he wants. You don't understand, because you haven't been in his shoes, is all I am saying.
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I understand, because he does not want to get a job in the real world LOL!,
A club promoter is a job, nothing wrong with being a promoter, DC is a promoter, he just promotes mx races. Your point?
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Izzi is so cool
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Torco1 3/22/2011 12:56pm
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Anybody else notice the Kohls 1/2 off bra sale advertisement that pops up on the right side of the page from time to time? Whoever is in charge of sales over at Vital needs a raise, they are stepping it up.
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mxb2 3/22/2011 1:09pm
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MBBadgers wrote:
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents...
so maybe he got burnt out after that, just throwin that out there. Everyone has a peaking moment, not at the same time. MXB, his parents did, and now he's what 20? he's been on a down-slide since he was what 18? when he could do what he wants. You don't understand, because you haven't been in his shoes, is all I am saying.
mxb2 wrote:
I understand, because he does not want to get a job in the real world LOL!,
MBBadgers wrote:
A club promoter is a job, nothing wrong with being a promoter, DC is a promoter, he just promotes mx races. Your point?
Point being, people feel sorry for these pro mxers! I feel sorry for the families that have been laid off and have to find a way to support their famiy, its not picking on Izzi , I mean all athletes and high profile people.no worries man.
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thatdad 3/22/2011 1:59pm
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BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
agreed..... while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after...
agreed.....

while we were all partying it up from 15 to 20, chasing girls, doing stupid stuff, working a little job for a few hours after school and on the weekends, these guys we professional athletes with 8 hour training days, regimented diet, no night life, not alot of fun, just ride train, ride train, give up normal teenager stuff, deal with pressure and injury.

They started at 5 or 6, by 11 or 12 have gotten focused, by 20, burned out, and missed a huge part of the fun part of life we all had where we had no real responibility and our biggest goal was hoping to get naked with someone and have a beer and hang out.

Think about it, even if it was horrible for you, think of the fun you had from 15 to 20. As bad as it could have gotten for those "i had to work from 3 pm after school until 2 am guys", it still didnt have the pressure, lack of social life, sacrificing the things we all did.

I think the main reason we expect so much from these guys, is because they can do something we can only dream of and all we think of is the speed, not what it took and takes daily to go that speed! We try to live vicariously thru them and only want the good part, not the rest...... makes us all about the worst "mini parent" there is.

One last thing.... we all ride for fun. I was given some very sage advice once, and it holds true today...... never take something you enjoy doing for fun and turn it into a job you have to do, you will hate it quickly.
thatdad wrote:
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out...
You know what, I was burned out with my job 20 years ago. I still show up, and if I don't do it right its out the door I go.

These racers are fully aware they have a short window to make some of the money back. Izzi is 20 years old, and if he keeps doing what he has been doing, its over. He is a man now, with a girlfriend and kid. Maybe the attitude has changed but I thoought a man raises his kid and supports it. The rap deal just makes him look like an idiot. He isn't a boy from the hood, he is a motocross racer that lived with his mom in a motorhome until he was 17 or 18.

When a man has a kid, his career becomes a job and his dog becomes a dog. Stop making bullshit excuses.
wow123 wrote:
Comparing a work a day job with high profile, high requirement rarefied position you could only dream about doesn't quite work out. Responsibility at 20 only...
Comparing a work a day job with high profile, high requirement rarefied position you could only dream about

doesn't quite work out.

Responsibility at 20 only the god fearing superpumped of this world can

and a world without goof offs or fckups means no musicians.......lol

(not the hoodoos unfortunately)
High profile rarified position? Get real, he is on a support team and can't finish a 15 lap (45 second a lap no less) moto. He fades like cheap red underwear washed on hot. If he approached it like a regular job, he would have to be prepared to do it. He obviously isn't. There are plenty of privateer kids with less talent and speed that at least can finish a moto.

The guy has talent and speed on a bike. He signed a deal with Kilbarger and is at the races. He was able to perform as a 15 year old amateur, now it is to much to expect him to do his job? There are plenty of responsible 20 year olds that would give a nut to have that opportunity.
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Torco1 wrote:
[img]http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/swimming-bear-naked.jpg[/img]
So the bear says, "is that a pin poking me in my left hip or are you just happy to see me?"
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Flatliner 3/22/2011 2:58pm
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My thoughts are this, I hope he doesn't look back at his career when he's 35, stuck working a 9-5 and say man I wish I tried harder.
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BLAHBLAH 3/22/2011 3:19pm
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I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
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Torco1 3/22/2011 3:21pm
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
This was taken from the VIP room............


https://youtu.be/awWtK7MvgjI
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peelout 3/22/2011 3:23pm
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
all 13 of the fans that attended the supercross were too partied out from the pit party and couldn't make it. even ralph was there lifting his shirt and doing body shots. i heard he even pawned off his gold necklace to help pay for the booze, unfortunately $1.83 doesn't go far in this economy.
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kopfjaeger 3/22/2011 3:42pm
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who actually attended this party... Video footage preferred.
Torco1 wrote:
This was taken from the VIP room............


https://youtu.be/awWtK7MvgjI
I AM STILLLLL LAUGHING!!!!!!!! That was freaky and afunny as hell!

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