does JS need LB back in the team?

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Just wondering, at this point. What would have changed with LB in the team?
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mx757 3/20/2011 10:37pm
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yes, because brooks would have been able to keep him from crashing. [/sarcasm]
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Vazscep 3/20/2011 10:46pm
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Yeah...James never crashed out of series before LB came along.
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HighCam 3/21/2011 1:51am
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line-up wrote:
Just wondering, at this point. What would have changed with LB in the team?
Well let's see. Before Brooks left;
Stewart had won 3 races this year
Stewart was only 3 points out of 1st
Stewart was a close 2nd in the championship
Stewart hadn't had any big mishaps
Regal had qualified for every main event
Regal was 11th in points in his rookie season

After Brooks left;
Stewart hasn't won a main event
Stewart has never lost 6 races in a row, ever
Stewart is 23 points out of 1st
Stewart is 4th in the championship
Regal missed 5 of the 6 main events
Regal was injuried
Regal has dropped to 19th in the points

I don't know? Is Stewart, Regal and the team better off with out Brooks?
It looks like Brooks is more valuable than anyone thought.

I'm sure other teams see this, if I noticed it.

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Underground 3/21/2011 4:10am
3/21/2011 4:10am
JS suspension looks bad of late. All over the shop. Can't say i noticed before the family reunion but maybe this is one of the things that LB did well. He could watch a bike and rider and give good feedback to the suspension guy. James wouldn't be the first pro to not have a clue.
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spd721 3/21/2011 5:17am
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No, he just needs to stop crashing.
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Faceaz 3/21/2011 6:43am
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No.. Crashes & some bad luck aside, he's riding the best I've seen him on the Yamaha. At the beginning of the season his speed was comparable to RV, now his speed is head & shoulders above the field. Emig & RC keep noting how he finally looks like the old Bubba. He just needs to get used to running that speed again.
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CLOS 157 3/21/2011 9:52am
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line-up wrote:
Just wondering, at this point. What would have changed with LB in the team?
HighCam wrote:
Well let's see. Before Brooks left; Stewart had won 3 races this year Stewart was only 3 points out of 1st Stewart was a close 2nd...
Well let's see. Before Brooks left;
Stewart had won 3 races this year
Stewart was only 3 points out of 1st
Stewart was a close 2nd in the championship
Stewart hadn't had any big mishaps
Regal had qualified for every main event
Regal was 11th in points in his rookie season

After Brooks left;
Stewart hasn't won a main event
Stewart has never lost 6 races in a row, ever
Stewart is 23 points out of 1st
Stewart is 4th in the championship
Regal missed 5 of the 6 main events
Regal was injuried
Regal has dropped to 19th in the points

I don't know? Is Stewart, Regal and the team better off with out Brooks?
It looks like Brooks is more valuable than anyone thought.

I'm sure other teams see this, if I noticed it.
Agree 100%
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JS suspension looks bad of late. All over the shop. Can't say i noticed before the family reunion but maybe this is one of the things...
JS suspension looks bad of late. All over the shop. Can't say i noticed before the family reunion but maybe this is one of the things that LB did well. He could watch a bike and rider and give good feedback to the suspension guy. James wouldn't be the first pro to not have a clue.
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of or understood about his bike. Seems understandable.
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powDIRT 3/21/2011 10:04am
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MBBadgers wrote:
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of...
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of or understood about his bike. Seems understandable.
I understand that James isn't going alone at this but I want to make a quick comparison to how Chad is running his team.

Honestly, I just don't see James as being mature enough to run the show. Now I am not bashing James, but even watching Bubba's World and watching James it is clear that he just isn't as independent as Chad.

I know it's kind of like debating apples and oranges, but I just think that James' newfound responsibilities could be weighing on him. Or I could be wrong.
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kongols 3/21/2011 10:06am
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MBBadgers wrote:
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of...
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of or understood about his bike. Seems understandable.
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I understand that James isn't going alone at this but I want to make a quick comparison to how Chad is running his team. Honestly, I...
I understand that James isn't going alone at this but I want to make a quick comparison to how Chad is running his team.

Honestly, I just don't see James as being mature enough to run the show. Now I am not bashing James, but even watching Bubba's World and watching James it is clear that he just isn't as independent as Chad.

I know it's kind of like debating apples and oranges, but I just think that James' newfound responsibilities could be weighing on him. Or I could be wrong.
So you basing all this on "Bubbas world"? Whistling Blink Huh Smart.
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line-up 3/21/2011 10:07am
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No.. Crashes & some bad luck aside, he's riding the best I've seen him on the Yamaha. At the beginning of the season his speed was...
No.. Crashes & some bad luck aside, he's riding the best I've seen him on the Yamaha. At the beginning of the season his speed was comparable to RV, now his speed is head & shoulders above the field. Emig & RC keep noting how he finally looks like the old Bubba. He just needs to get used to running that speed again.
To me that's exactly what he doesn't need to do: running that speed again. He definitely needs to slow down!
He desperately needs somebody to guide him on race strategy and focus and all that and what if that was LB before disappearing from the team?
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karnivool 3/21/2011 10:21am
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larry brooks was pulling strings and twisting the throttle...

but maybe he was better at suspension than we all gave him credit for?

as a stewart fan I do know that LB strokes his riders Ego's a lot...this might help the bigger stars, rd could use some confidence, rv should hire him now...

jk
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Gym Briggs 3/21/2011 10:24am
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JS7 suspension looked best in jax than it has all season! He looked great in his heat race!
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fader418 3/21/2011 10:53am
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I think James needs LB back there, LB knows how to calm him down in situations like this....as far as his suspension, James has never looked that good on his yamaha until this year....they hired a suspension guy (Carlos) I think his name is...anyway his bike looks good this year.....LB said in the past it was hard to set up his bike because he races so much faster than when he practices.....
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RMZ819 3/21/2011 12:17pm
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James does not need Brooks back. Team managers are not difference makers. Never have been and ever will be. It's all about the rider. Motocross is not a team sport. Talent rules
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HuskyEd 3/21/2011 12:28pm
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RMZ819 wrote:
James does not need Brooks back. Team managers are not difference makers. Never have been and ever will be. It's all about the rider. Motocross is...
James does not need Brooks back. Team managers are not difference makers. Never have been and ever will be. It's all about the rider. Motocross is not a team sport. Talent rules
You don't think Roger had any impact on Dungey? I feel Ryan misses Roger a whole lot and James in time will find out how much LB brought to the team.
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Cool_Story_Brah 3/21/2011 1:08pm
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Yes. They need a foundation. Brooks was that foundation.
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RaceFace 3/21/2011 1:17pm
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Larry Brooks hasn't left. He's still around. Just needed some family time. What is everyone talking about? Ask James, he'll tell you so.
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line-up wrote:
Just wondering, at this point. What would have changed with LB in the team?
HighCam wrote:
Well let's see. Before Brooks left; Stewart had won 3 races this year Stewart was only 3 points out of 1st Stewart was a close 2nd...
Well let's see. Before Brooks left;
Stewart had won 3 races this year
Stewart was only 3 points out of 1st
Stewart was a close 2nd in the championship
Stewart hadn't had any big mishaps
Regal had qualified for every main event
Regal was 11th in points in his rookie season

After Brooks left;
Stewart hasn't won a main event
Stewart has never lost 6 races in a row, ever
Stewart is 23 points out of 1st
Stewart is 4th in the championship
Regal missed 5 of the 6 main events
Regal was injuried
Regal has dropped to 19th in the points

I don't know? Is Stewart, Regal and the team better off with out Brooks?
It looks like Brooks is more valuable than anyone thought.

I'm sure other teams see this, if I noticed it.
I'd worry about hiring someone who's involved in a lawsuit with ANOTHER rider who he's been involved with.
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CLOS 157 3/21/2011 1:51pm
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RaceFace wrote:
Larry Brooks hasn't left. He's still around. Just needed some family time. What is everyone talking about? Ask James, he'll tell you so.
Good One!
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line-up wrote:
Just wondering, at this point. What would have changed with LB in the team?
If half of what Chad Reed has said about Larry is true then he probably does not need him back. Larry always seemed like a good guy to me, but I don't know him personally.


BTW - The Team San Manuel Facebook page still has Larry listed as a member of the team.
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powDIRT 3/21/2011 2:17pm
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MBBadgers wrote:
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of...
Larry was very hands on with the suspension and motors. Being an ex-pro himself, he was aware of things that maybe James just never thought of or understood about his bike. Seems understandable.
powDIRT wrote:
I understand that James isn't going alone at this but I want to make a quick comparison to how Chad is running his team. Honestly, I...
I understand that James isn't going alone at this but I want to make a quick comparison to how Chad is running his team.

Honestly, I just don't see James as being mature enough to run the show. Now I am not bashing James, but even watching Bubba's World and watching James it is clear that he just isn't as independent as Chad.

I know it's kind of like debating apples and oranges, but I just think that James' newfound responsibilities could be weighing on him. Or I could be wrong.
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So you basing all this on "Bubbas world"? Whistling Blink Huh Smart.
Regardless of how stupid the show is: it is the prime representation of the type of person that he is. Unless you actually spend a bunch of time hanging out with him, he has chosen to let that show set the example for who he is.

I simply used the show as an example to make my point. And that point is that while Mom and Dad put in the most work on the business side, James just needs to show up at events and turn laps.
Cool_Story_Brah 3/21/2011 2:33pm
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RaceFace wrote:
Larry Brooks hasn't left. He's still around. Just needed some family time. What is everyone talking about? Ask James, he'll tell you so.
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Good One!
He's got mad jokes.
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Faceaz 3/21/2011 2:43pm
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No.. Crashes & some bad luck aside, he's riding the best I've seen him on the Yamaha. At the beginning of the season his speed was...
No.. Crashes & some bad luck aside, he's riding the best I've seen him on the Yamaha. At the beginning of the season his speed was comparable to RV, now his speed is head & shoulders above the field. Emig & RC keep noting how he finally looks like the old Bubba. He just needs to get used to running that speed again.
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To me that's exactly what he doesn't need to do: running that speed again. He definitely needs to slow down! He desperately needs somebody to guide...
To me that's exactly what he doesn't need to do: running that speed again. He definitely needs to slow down!
He desperately needs somebody to guide him on race strategy and focus and all that and what if that was LB before disappearing from the team?
I could just hear LB telling James. Dude you have to slow down, just go a little slower would ya. Is there anything I can do to the bike to help you go a little slower?

James has always said: He knows one way to ride & isn't willing to change. He might mature a little more, but he'll still push as hard as he can everytime out. I think he's finally looking good / comfortable on the bike & that's enabling him to pick up the pace. Unfortunately, the faster you go, the faster you get into trouble. Eventhough he finally looks good on the bike, I think he's probably not used to running that speed again. I think it will just click for him, when it does he'll finish out the season with a string of victories but it will probably be a bit too little too late for the championship.
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RMZ819 3/22/2011 8:23am
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RMZ819 wrote:
James does not need Brooks back. Team managers are not difference makers. Never have been and ever will be. It's all about the rider. Motocross is...
James does not need Brooks back. Team managers are not difference makers. Never have been and ever will be. It's all about the rider. Motocross is not a team sport. Talent rules
HuskyEd wrote:
You don't think Roger had any impact on Dungey? I feel Ryan misses Roger a whole lot and James in time will find out how much...
You don't think Roger had any impact on Dungey? I feel Ryan misses Roger a whole lot and James in time will find out how much LB brought to the team.
No, Dungey wins no matter what last yr. Decoster found Ryan but the kid already has the talent and the work ethic. Dungey would of been a champ no matter what bike he rode.

With that said. IMO, Brooks brought nothing to James. look at. Reed. Chad won before Brooks with Brooks and after Brooks.

It blows my mind that people think Managers and bikes are difference makers in 2011.

100% rider
0% team manager
0% bike
TALENT RULES!!!!!! TRUE STORY.
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Wiley 3/22/2011 8:38am
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How about Jeremy Albrecht and Larry Brooks switch teams with each other?
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RMZ819 3/22/2011 8:47am
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How about Jeremy Albrecht and Larry Brooks switch teams with each other?
That would work for Brooks. JGR thinks its all about the team and no doubt Brooks does to.


Jeremy Albrecht on the other hand knows the deal. Joe Gibbs asked Jermemy what it takes to win Championships in Motocross before he hired him and Jeremy Said $$$$$$ and the best rider.

You would think that JGR would get it figured out by now. Milsaps,Grant,Cooper,Bryaton,Graycik,Summey ect.. are never going to get it done no matter how great they think there team is.
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CamP 3/22/2011 8:54am
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RMZ819 wrote:
No, Dungey wins no matter what last yr. Decoster found Ryan but the kid already has the talent and the work ethic. Dungey would of been...
No, Dungey wins no matter what last yr. Decoster found Ryan but the kid already has the talent and the work ethic. Dungey would of been a champ no matter what bike he rode.

With that said. IMO, Brooks brought nothing to James. look at. Reed. Chad won before Brooks with Brooks and after Brooks.

It blows my mind that people think Managers and bikes are difference makers in 2011.

100% rider
0% team manager
0% bike
TALENT RULES!!!!!! TRUE STORY.
Without talent, you'll never win. With a bad team and a bad bike, you'll never win either, no matter how much talent you have. If it was all about talent, Bubba would be 50 points ahead right now.

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