Why wasn't Reed just as aggressive with Canard?

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 10:40pm
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with Villapoto not making the main and Stewart crashing out.
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WhipMeister 3/20/2011 9:39pm
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AMD34 wrote:
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with...
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with Villapoto not making the main and Stewart crashing out.
Because he keeps a really bright points scoreboard in his heads up display?
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Hank_Thrill 3/20/2011 9:41pm
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possibly because:

- He didn't want to end up on the ground and lose more points (said that in a post race interview).
- Canard checked out once he passed him back (don't recall the opportunity he had with Stewart)
- He doesn't have a history with Canard. Some riders who have had rivalries can easily light a fire under one another's asses. Guy Cooper said when Ward passed him during the 1990 Atlanta supercross way back when (the closest Guy ever got to winning a 250cc main) he didn't have the fight left in him that he would have had if someone else had passed him (i think he said RJ, but not sure).
- They both ride for Honda? Not technically, but Factory Honda does flow Reed some parts and pissing them off wouldn't be wise.
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Ddavis 3/20/2011 9:45pm
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Why would anyone want to clean out Trey?


....Just saying.
SuperGenius 3/20/2011 9:47pm
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AMD34 wrote:
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with...
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with Villapoto not making the main and Stewart crashing out.
It's Villopoto, I never saw Trey knock Chad 12 inches up a berm, there's a clue for you.

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powDIRT 3/20/2011 9:53pm
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Watch the Transworld "How was your Weekend?". He said that he knew that all the points leaders were out of it, plus the only way he could get by Trey was with a sketchy pass. He said that he figured it would be smarter to collect the points rather than jeopardize his championship hopes.
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Cory976 3/20/2011 10:01pm
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
[u]possibly because:[/u] - He didn't want to end up on the ground and lose more points (said that in a post race interview). - Canard checked...
possibly because:

- He didn't want to end up on the ground and lose more points (said that in a post race interview).
- Canard checked out once he passed him back (don't recall the opportunity he had with Stewart)
- He doesn't have a history with Canard. Some riders who have had rivalries can easily light a fire under one another's asses. Guy Cooper said when Ward passed him during the 1990 Atlanta supercross way back when (the closest Guy ever got to winning a 250cc main) he didn't have the fight left in him that he would have had if someone else had passed him (i think he said RJ, but not sure).
- They both ride for Honda? Not technically, but Factory Honda does flow Reed some parts and pissing them off wouldn't be wise.
Exactly X 4 !
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Crush 3/20/2011 10:54pm
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22 points when your main competition is on the floor is better than risking it and making none...

Chad's won championships and knows what it takes... And Trey rides a honda...
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EatAChode 3/20/2011 11:14pm
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Reed wants Trey's parts....actually he wants Trey's bike! So probably doesn't want to piss off Team Honda.

Imagine if Stewart was on a Factory Honda this year and how things may have played out differently.

And yeah Reed is smart.
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If you know what you are talking about you would see that Reed was not leading like in Atlanta. You would also know that the drive it took to reach Canard took a lot of effort. You would also know Reed new 2nd was still a huge deal and to risk that was not smart. You would also know that they might have a little more respect for eachother unlike Reed and Stewie who have years of battles. But I bet you thought it was only cause Reed was a hypocrite.
Motocross83 3/21/2011 1:33am
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Canard will be a title threat one day but right now he's pretty far back in the points. Of course it would've been better for CR to win the race and make up even more points on his competitors - but Trey obviously rode really well and made Chad say uncle. If it'd been one of his main rivals in the points i.e RD, RV or JS... then that may have been a different matter.

Personally I think RD is the dark horse here. I wouldn't be surprised to see him clean a couple of people out. He's pretty desperate for that win.
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Fat Fingers 3/21/2011 1:45am
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if things get tight, team tactics will come into play and Canard will become Reeds best new friend.
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AMD34 3/21/2011 5:36am
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AMD34 wrote:
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with...
... as he was with Stewart in Atlanta? Interesting... surely there were more points on the line here in Jacksonville... more points to be made with Villapoto not making the main and Stewart crashing out.
SuperGenius wrote:
It's Villopoto, I never saw Trey knock Chad 12 inches up a berm, there's a clue for you.
thanks for the clarification of rv's name, didn't know this was a spelling contest. You're obviously a Chad Reed fan. Do u have those big earings like that tulip too? When James passed Reed in Atlanta he barely touched him. Canard traded alot more paint when he got around him saturday night. Somebody said it perfect, Honda feeds 22 motorsports goodies... period.
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motoplook 3/21/2011 5:41am
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Becasuse Trey rides with God and Jesus Christ and you don't want to go against the wrath of God.
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AMD34 3/21/2011 5:47am
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
If you know what you are talking about you would see that Reed was not leading like in Atlanta. You would also know that the drive...
If you know what you are talking about you would see that Reed was not leading like in Atlanta. You would also know that the drive it took to reach Canard took a lot of effort. You would also know Reed new 2nd was still a huge deal and to risk that was not smart. You would also know that they might have a little more respect for eachother unlike Reed and Stewie who have years of battles. But I bet you thought it was only cause Reed was a hypocrite.
yes I do. im not sure if u watched the race, Reed actually passed Canard and was in the lead until Canard muscled his way back into first. Reed's excuse for his bs attempted pass on Stewart was that Stewart was aggressive with him first. Well, so was Canard. I will never have respect for Chad, he is a hypocrite. Please don't get me wrong, if Chad had cleaned out Canard I would have been irate. Very happy he won and CR got what he always gets, 2nd place....
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AMD34 3/21/2011 5:57am
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
If you know what you are talking about you would see that Reed was not leading like in Atlanta. You would also know that the drive...
If you know what you are talking about you would see that Reed was not leading like in Atlanta. You would also know that the drive it took to reach Canard took a lot of effort. You would also know Reed new 2nd was still a huge deal and to risk that was not smart. You would also know that they might have a little more respect for eachother unlike Reed and Stewie who have years of battles. But I bet you thought it was only cause Reed was a hypocrite.
one more thing, I didn't start this forum for sarcastic bs comments. "if you knew what you were talkin about" go troll a different discussion. thanks to all who have responded to my initial post with respect and intelligence. I see the situation a little differently with some of the points you have made, unlike mr. 40 plus here. Your comment sir makes me hate Chad more and more.
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wow123 3/21/2011 5:58am
3/21/2011 5:58am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2011 6:00am
I will never have respect for Chad, he is a hypocrite. Please don't get me wrong,
Your comment sir makes me hate Chad more and more.

I'm positive i haven't got you wrong your an idiot!
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mx_579 3/21/2011 6:10am
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your an idiot!

I believe thats irony right there.

Reed had alot more to gain on the people ahead of him in points by playing it a little safer here. When he blocked Stewart he wasn't gaining anything if he just hung back.
MikeYamaha624 3/21/2011 6:16am
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because when Reed races Stewart he gets more excited than when my 8 year old daughter sees Justin Bieber

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FARANG 3/21/2011 6:22am
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Same story for Reed and Dungey this week. They both realized Stewart and RV were out and decided it was best to get within striking distance this week.

No point taking massive risks for an extra couple of points when there are 20+ on offer playing it relatively safe.

You have to be within striking distance before you can strike.
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AMD34 3/21/2011 6:45am
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mx_579 wrote:
[b]your an idiot![/b] I believe thats irony right there. Reed had alot more to gain on the people ahead of him in points by playing it...
your an idiot!

I believe thats irony right there.

Reed had alot more to gain on the people ahead of him in points by playing it a little safer here. When he blocked Stewart he wasn't gaining anything if he just hung back.
another troll, love it... again, no need for name calling... not a valid way to make a point. I guess if the point you are making doesn't make any sense, you have to resort to name calling.

By passing Stewart, he had 3 points to gain... by passing Canard sat night, he had 3 points to gain. That's the point here... he was conservative on Saturday but not in Atlanta, why? That's what I am asking... I understand the points situation, it's not a good explanation of why he rode differently.
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`ol Ger 3/21/2011 9:59am
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Maybe he's a tad more respectful of Canard. Trey is absolutely untimidated by older/other riders. He rides with all the enthusiasm of Travis Pastrana and seems to eat pressure for lunch.
tfpfirepro 3/21/2011 10:06am
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Simple. Stewie is Reed's kriptonite. All logic leaves 22's head when he has the chance to beat 7. Atlanta is the perfect case. Had Reed been thinking championship in Atlanta he would not have made that pass. But all he was thinking was beat Bubba. Had Reed used the same logic in Atlanta as he did this past weekend in Jacksonville he would be tied with RV for points right now not seven points back.

If Bubba finishes the season him and 22 will tangle again, only this time it will probably be Bubba making the questionable pass as he has nothing to loose now. As a result this championship will come down too RV and RD.

It's been a great season though! Can't wait for T.O. this weekend!
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shaner708 3/21/2011 10:07am
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1. Same brand of bike and the support from Honda

2. He and Trey get along.

3. And probably most important, Trey was far back in the points. I believe right now he is still 20 points behind Reed with the win. If Reed was battling for the title with him it may have been a different story
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mx_579 3/21/2011 10:11am
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mx_579 wrote:
[b]your an idiot![/b] I believe thats irony right there. Reed had alot more to gain on the people ahead of him in points by playing it...
your an idiot!

I believe thats irony right there.

Reed had alot more to gain on the people ahead of him in points by playing it a little safer here. When he blocked Stewart he wasn't gaining anything if he just hung back.
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another troll, love it... again, no need for name calling... not a valid way to make a point. I guess if the point you are making...
another troll, love it... again, no need for name calling... not a valid way to make a point. I guess if the point you are making doesn't make any sense, you have to resort to name calling.

By passing Stewart, he had 3 points to gain... by passing Canard sat night, he had 3 points to gain. That's the point here... he was conservative on Saturday but not in Atlanta, why? That's what I am asking... I understand the points situation, it's not a good explanation of why he rode differently.
I'm pretty sure you missed the point of that story. I was just quoting the end of the post above me with the "your an idiot!" line. I just found it funny that someone is calling someone else an in idiot and making themself look stupid at the same time with poor spelling.

Reed was gaining 20 points by not being overly agressive in Jax, he would have been losing 3 points in Atlanta. Nobody ahead of him in points beat him in Jax.
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Maybe because Trey didn't leave a huge opening on the final lap that you would be insane not to take?

They bumped a little but there was never a clear spot to drive it in on him for a pass without high risk.
The whoops were looking like Reed's passing point and he couldn't get it set up on the last couple laps.
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WhipMeister 3/21/2011 11:11am
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Crush wrote:
22 points when your main competition is on the floor is better than risking it and making none... Chad's won championships and knows what it takes...
22 points when your main competition is on the floor is better than risking it and making none...

Chad's won championships and knows what it takes... And Trey rides a honda...
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johansen 3/21/2011 11:14am
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jndmx wrote:
Maybe because Trey didn't leave a huge opening on the final lap that you would be insane not to take? They bumped a little but there...
Maybe because Trey didn't leave a huge opening on the final lap that you would be insane not to take?

They bumped a little but there was never a clear spot to drive it in on him for a pass without high risk.
The whoops were looking like Reed's passing point and he couldn't get it set up on the last couple laps.
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MB6 3/21/2011 11:21am
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I think chad likes the kid and respects him more then stewart and knew to himself that trey deserved it, and also like he said in his interviews he didn't wanna risk himself falling
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BLAHBLAH 3/21/2011 11:30am
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
[u]possibly because:[/u] - He didn't want to end up on the ground and lose more points (said that in a post race interview). - Canard checked...
possibly because:

- He didn't want to end up on the ground and lose more points (said that in a post race interview).
- Canard checked out once he passed him back (don't recall the opportunity he had with Stewart)
- He doesn't have a history with Canard. Some riders who have had rivalries can easily light a fire under one another's asses. Guy Cooper said when Ward passed him during the 1990 Atlanta supercross way back when (the closest Guy ever got to winning a 250cc main) he didn't have the fight left in him that he would have had if someone else had passed him (i think he said RJ, but not sure).
- They both ride for Honda? Not technically, but Factory Honda does flow Reed some parts and pissing them off wouldn't be wise.
All points are valid... but this is a stupid question because as your second point states... Reed Never Had The Chance

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