Motocross is an Athletic Sport!

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WhipMeister 5/1/2008 8:29am
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There is a formal, medical, peer-reviewed study of bloodwork, heart rate, etc of MX racers which, in very technical language, illustrates the demands of racing somewhere on the internet. I previously found it through google and posted it on the old Motodrive. Search on "motocross study medical heart rate blood" or somesuch. It was conducted in Europe pretty recently.
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dougie 5/2/2008 6:21am
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You guys just want to think that MX is uber demanding physically because you being somehow connected to the sport can feel better about yourselves.

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jay_547 5/2/2008 6:41am
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it's not very demanding of me as i am one of the fat 40+ guys at the local track that just lugs around on my 250.
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crowe176 5/2/2008 6:48am
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mx21 wrote:
Hey guys I need some help…. I'm doing a project in my university sports nutrition class on motocross athletes and I can't find any research on...
Hey guys I need some help…. I'm doing a project in my university sports nutrition class on motocross athletes and I can't find any research on it. I have heard all the stats about how motocross is the second most athletic sport next to soccer etc. But I can't find the original studies. Does anyone know where I can find any information. I want to prove how demanding our sport really is. Thanks
APLMAN wrote:
What are you using to judge Reed's fitness? A picture of him with his shirt off? What would Reed score on your tests? Obviously you don't...
What are you using to judge Reed's fitness? A picture of him with his shirt off?

What would Reed score on your tests? Obviously you don't even need to test him to determine his fitness level, so go ahead and tell us what he would score.
He has a lab full of superior guys that are pondering physiological sense..
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stoop 5/2/2008 6:50am
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i heard cross country skiing was one of the most physical demanding sports, could be wrong
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crowe176 5/2/2008 6:52am
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You would only know if you went to vitalcrosscountry.com.
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88sdad 5/2/2008 7:02am
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I heard "Competitive Diving" was the most demanding. Just Say'n
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APLMAN 5/2/2008 7:12am
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dougie wrote:
You guys just want to think that MX is uber demanding physically because you being somehow connected to the sport can feel better about yourselves.
I don't think I'm being a "homer" about it, I've never in my life come close to the level of even the slowest local pro. It's not as demanding for me as it is the top pros at all. Not even close.

Reed's condition doesn't make me feel any better or worse about myself, it has no bearing on me at all. And that should be the same for the vast majority of folks.
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crowe176 5/2/2008 7:14am
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88sdad wrote:
I heard "Competitive Diving" was the most demanding. Just Say'n
Nope, it's a biased environment. They would need to take a standardized test adminstered by educational testing service (ETS). US Public Law 107-110, known as the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 further ties public school funding to standardized testing.

Further more, my lab can't ponder the height and depth of said divers in a diversified environment or make physiiological sense of it for fuggin christ sake.
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englishman 5/2/2008 7:53am
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Just my own personal observations. After I quit racing ( I raced nationals in England WAAAY back in the day ) I started racing bicycles to quite a high level in France.
From a percieved exertion standpoint cycling is way harder than MX. BUT at the end of the day after a national I could barely stand compared to after a hard , long bike race ( 200+ KM) where althought the legs felt battered I didn't feel so overall worn out.
When you do look at the studies done on guys while racing MX you have to factor in elevated heart rates due to the release of large amounts of arenaline when racing MX. Cycling it was reading because of pure effort.
I could sustain a HR of 195+ for periods of time on the bike going as high as 205 for short bursts ( my max is 210 ) but at that point there would be no way of being able to ride a motorcycle, once you get to a certain point it becomes hard to focus and / or tunnel vision can be a problem , so I'd have to say that the adrenaline comes in to play when looking at the numbers.
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GirlsRFUn 5/2/2008 8:04am
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williamsmotowerx wrote:
a 30 min romp with the wife is just like running a moto... and i do all the work there too.
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I agree...she needs to step it up !
Sounds like you are doing it wrong if YOU do all the work. OR maybe I have a lazzy partner... Devil
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GirlsRFUn wrote:
Sounds like you are doing it wrong if YOU do all the work. OR maybe I have a lazzy partner...
Sounds like you are doing it wrong if YOU do all the work. OR maybe I have a lazzy partner... Devil
Some chicka's just like to be in the saddle. Whistling

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englishman wrote:
Just my own personal observations. After I quit racing ( I raced nationals in England WAAAY back in the day ) I started racing bicycles to...
Just my own personal observations. After I quit racing ( I raced nationals in England WAAAY back in the day ) I started racing bicycles to quite a high level in France.
From a percieved exertion standpoint cycling is way harder than MX. BUT at the end of the day after a national I could barely stand compared to after a hard , long bike race ( 200+ KM) where althought the legs felt battered I didn't feel so overall worn out.
When you do look at the studies done on guys while racing MX you have to factor in elevated heart rates due to the release of large amounts of arenaline when racing MX. Cycling it was reading because of pure effort.
I could sustain a HR of 195+ for periods of time on the bike going as high as 205 for short bursts ( my max is 210 ) but at that point there would be no way of being able to ride a motorcycle, once you get to a certain point it becomes hard to focus and / or tunnel vision can be a problem , so I'd have to say that the adrenaline comes in to play when looking at the numbers.
Well said. Absolutely great point. Never really thought of the adrenaline factor.
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englishman 5/2/2008 10:17am
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englishman wrote:
Just my own personal observations. After I quit racing ( I raced nationals in England WAAAY back in the day ) I started racing bicycles to...
Just my own personal observations. After I quit racing ( I raced nationals in England WAAAY back in the day ) I started racing bicycles to quite a high level in France.
From a percieved exertion standpoint cycling is way harder than MX. BUT at the end of the day after a national I could barely stand compared to after a hard , long bike race ( 200+ KM) where althought the legs felt battered I didn't feel so overall worn out.
When you do look at the studies done on guys while racing MX you have to factor in elevated heart rates due to the release of large amounts of arenaline when racing MX. Cycling it was reading because of pure effort.
I could sustain a HR of 195+ for periods of time on the bike going as high as 205 for short bursts ( my max is 210 ) but at that point there would be no way of being able to ride a motorcycle, once you get to a certain point it becomes hard to focus and / or tunnel vision can be a problem , so I'd have to say that the adrenaline comes in to play when looking at the numbers.
level wrote:
Well said. Absolutely great point. Never really thought of the adrenaline factor.
Thanks man !!
xnationalwrench 5/2/2008 10:29am
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Motocross is an athletic sport but I have seen racers out of shape 20 pounds overweight on a bike that was 20 % less horsepower whip and win Nationals (of course I'm talking about Marty Tripes on a Bultaco) All the phyiscal training in the world isn't gonna make you a champion (it will help you) if you can't or don't want to turn the throttle wide open.
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crowe176 5/2/2008 10:37am
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Then why couldn't Reed win a MX championship?

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Deetsmx 5/2/2008 11:08am
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The thing with motocross is that it requires both skill and endurance. I can not ride for months due to an injury and be completely out of shape compared to say a novice rider who's been training his butt off yet I'll still run circles around him and not be tired compared to him. That's because running that pace to me does not require much effort. However, running a hard pace will have my tongue in my spokes after a lap. So for Reed to run third in a national is probably less strenuous than the guys running around in thirtieth because his speed is there and he might not be forcing the issue like those guys. Basically, if you're pushing its a very demanding sport that requires good conditioning. I ran a 4:39 mile in high school and qualified for a supercross and the most exhausting thing I've done is raced. I never sat in the shade with a hose over my head after running, but I've done it a few times at Glen Helen in the heat. Just my 2 cents.
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KTM boy 137 5/2/2008 5:24pm
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Tell me, who CAN'T qualify for an SX?
the bike does all the work!

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KAWboy14 5/2/2008 5:31pm
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i would rather ride a 45 minute moto than play a serious soccer game for 45 minutes!

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