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The amount of missiles, drones, and fast attack boats has been decimated. Air superiority doesn't mean zero enemy air activity. They are able to launch a few here or there but as an offensive force they are done. Of course a few will get through but overall the number of attacks have been minimal compared to the beginning of the war. This is obvious, i'm not sure why you would make a statement that is so wildly misleading. The attacks will not stop completely until the country capitulates. I would expect this will all be over in the next 6 months.
These misleading statements you are making are the tactics Fox, CNN and MSNBC use.
Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens. The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.
That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb?
General question: under what terms & conditions would this campaign be labeled a success? Gantry’s post suggests nothing less than an overthrow of the regime. Others only want agreements to contain nuclear development, regardless of who is in charge. I’m curious what the contributors to this post think in regards to a successful outcome.
Removing Iran's legitimacy behind mass-casualty threats against the US and it's allies. Not just short-term for the next administration to deal with, but long-term. To be clear though, the expectation is not utopia in the Middle East.
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Thanks for the input. If you would, please define “mass casualty” so we understand the scope of the threat.
Your question would have to be for the proponents of this war. For those of us that were and are against it, that is the point. There is no way to label this a success. That's why I am against it. Trump went into this thinking we drop a few bombs, shoot a few people and Iran would curl up in to a fetal position like Venezuela did. That does not appear to be happening and no serious person ever thought it would. The only way this works out now is for the Iranian people to finish what we started. Had we backed them when Trump promised we would, it might have happened then. I would have been all for that. So Sorry, LL, I have no answers for your question.
Depends on whose yardstick we're using. To that core group where he can do no wrong, then it's all wins all around. To everyone else, we've been losing for decades of varying degrees.
'Trump went into this thinking we drop a few bombs, shoot a few people and Iran would curl up in to a fetal position like Venezuela did."
He did? That's what he was thinking? How do you now what he was thinking? Actually he was quite clear that his objective was to destroy Iran's ability to manufacture a nuclear weapon.
"There is no way to label this a success." it is already a success. The ability for Iran to manufacture a nuclear weapon has been severely curtailed. The mass amount of their rockets have been destroyed. They have lost most of the support or tolerance they once had with the rest of the middle east nations. They are being squeezed so tight they no longer have the financial ability to support their terror proxies Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, etc. The iranian nation is heading for total collapse, what a great day that will be for America, Israel, and the world. Within 6 months this thing is over.
"Had we backed them when Trump promised we would, it might have happened then. I would have been all for that."
I don't believe you would have backed President Trump then, now, or in the future.
Yet, ships are still stuck in the strait ….
One of two things. This will either continue to drag out or, we’ll look like the liberators who abandoned the Iranian citizens much like we did in Afghanistan after pulling out.
One of two things? You forgot the other option (among many) The Iranian regime collapse's due to the military and economic onslaught they are currently experiencing due to President Trump and Secretary Bessent. Iran has no money, 6 months this thing is over.
Wasn’t that the whole point of this when he started all of this?
The recent South Park episodes making fun of Hegseth are fucking hilarious. He's an incompetent dumb fuck. He isn't fit to lead disabled dog show.
That's not what I am suggesting at all. The destruction of Iran's ability to manufacture a nuclear weapon will label this a success.
The collapse of the Iranian regime is frosting on the cake. Iran could have avoided this scenario completely if they would have kept within the MOU that was signed by both the US and Iran, The constant violations of treaties has left President Trump with few choices but to strangle Iran economically and militarily, which is what is currently happening. The Iranian people will rise up eventually and claim their country back from the psychotic islamic republic.
Give it time, 6 months max.
I'm going to need to watch that, Southpark is hilarious.
Secreary Hegseth has done a great job getting the military back to their primary goal of being a fighting force. We don't need social experiments in the military, the military exist for one purpose only.
Hopefully someone can teach the Moran how to do a proper pull up.
At some point the USA leadership will say, hey it's over, we won, claim a success. And the next thing will take over the news and tax payer money will start being diverted somewhere else in a few months, and the masses will mostly forget we were ever at war with Iran.
Depending on polling and gas prices, that victory day will either happen in a month or not for a long time.
Seriously? You don't understand the scope of the threat? They have been chanting death to America and Israel for almost 50 years. They have also made it very clear their want to manufacture nuclear weapons with which they can threaten the world. It's not too difficult to put that one together. I don't know how many people die due to the explosion of a 15 kiloton nuclear device. What was the death toll in Hiroshima? Is that mass casualty enough for you? Maybe we should not have bombed them, let them continue on their merry path until they also have access to ICBM's.
They needed to be stopped, President Trump was the only person man enough to do something about it until it was too late. Much like North Korea.
I'm on board with that when Israel agrees to the same nuclear inspections as Iran and scraps their Samson Option. Israel needs to play by the same rules as everyone else. A vast majority of the planet is sick of their never ending victim mentality projected by their Zionist leaders. There are millions of Jews who are against everything Netanyahu, Gvir, and the other psycho Zionists are wanting to do. A lot of them live here in the USA as well as Israel. Nearly everything our media on both sides says is a lie. We've Obama and the whole Smith Mundt act thing to thank for the never ending propaganda.
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Snag some transcripts from the Talmud. It's pretty frightening shit.
Research the Samson Option. It's literally Israel's version of what you're saying Iran will do. Why do they get a free pass to do whatever they want? Because of the Holocaust? Well gosh danged if that's the case then I am 100% for reparations for blacks in America for slavery.
It also won't be long before they drag us into conflict with Turkey. What ya think diesel will hit? $15/gal?
MAGA digressing lolololololololololol
Trump said they were brought to their knees months ago.
You’re saying another six months
"He did? That's what he was thinking? How do you now what he was thinking? Actually he was quite clear that his objective was to destroy Iran's ability to manufacture a nuclear weapon."
Nobody knows what anybody is thinking unless you claim to be clairvoyant and I don't. Also what the objective is and how you plan to attain it are two different things.
"it is already a success."
Attacking their nuke sites does not mean destroyed. Unless you take their word for it. If you do then there was no need to destroy it again because, according to Trump, we already did that in June of 25.
"I don't believe you would have backed President Trump then, now, or in the future."
Apparently you do claim to be clairvoyant. You have no clue what I would or would not back. I also noticed that you chose to sidestep instead of addressing my statement.
You're a funny guy there Skippy.
I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.
To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action.
Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.
Skippy?
XMikeX called me that once. ONCE!
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You're working on the assumption that Iran and Israel share the exact same relationship with the US. Why do you expect to be taken seriously on foreign affairs when you can't understand something so obvious?
I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option. I wish there was a lemon law for this type of shit.
I held out as long as I could.
It makes me laugh, we’re bringing Iran to its knees.
This’ll be over in a couple weeks.
Gas prices are going to drop.
Gas is high AF.
Deployments have been extended.
The Navy “may or, may not” be providing security to oil tankers.
Meh…. Enough politics for me for the day. Gonna watch the world burn while fishing. Have a good week…
Hopefully you caught something. Been fishing in Lake Michigan twice this year already and haven’t caught crap.
Then again it’s my first time fishing too…
Such confidence, I'm saving this comment...
Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master plan we don’t know about….
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