California tyre regulations

9/2/2026 7:06am
ToolMaker wrote:

Who here needs tires anyway? They're building us a high speed rail system. 🙄

TM

borg wrote:

You mean the one that goes from Pixley to Hooterville? 

Who doesn't like Hooters?

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9/2/2026 7:12am
borg wrote:

You mean the one that goes from Pixley to Hooterville? 

TeamGreen wrote:
We call it TheTrain That, someday…maybe…will go to Nowhere If you drive along the wonderfully detoured and rerouted California Highway 43 from Wasco (Nowhere) to Corcoran...

We call it TheTrain That, someday…maybe…will go to Nowhere 

If you drive along the wonderfully detoured and rerouted California Highway 43 from Wasco (Nowhere) to Corcoran (Nowhere) you can see the completed sections of track and how they created an ENTIRELY NEW corridor when they could have used existing corridors…but, that wouldn’t work with their real estate scam that this is all a part of…

borg wrote:

Arnold must have crapped on somebody's sofa. It will no longer stop at Pixley.

You know, it’s funny…well, it’s sad, actually:

One Party gave us this train nightmare. 😊

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9/2/2026 7:36am
TeamGreen wrote:
We call it TheTrain That, someday…maybe…will go to Nowhere If you drive along the wonderfully detoured and rerouted California Highway 43 from Wasco (Nowhere) to Corcoran...

We call it TheTrain That, someday…maybe…will go to Nowhere 

If you drive along the wonderfully detoured and rerouted California Highway 43 from Wasco (Nowhere) to Corcoran (Nowhere) you can see the completed sections of track and how they created an ENTIRELY NEW corridor when they could have used existing corridors…but, that wouldn’t work with their real estate scam that this is all a part of…

borg wrote:

Arnold must have crapped on somebody's sofa. It will no longer stop at Pixley.

TeamGreen wrote:

You know, it’s funny…well, it’s sad, actually:

One Party gave us this train nightmare. 😊

Didn't Gavin (when he was campaigning say he was going to cancel the "crazy train"?

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9/2/2026 7:39am
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Who doesn't like Hooters?

😄

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9/2/2026 8:38am
lumpy790 wrote:
Michelin has stopped making tires in the USA? Thats odd since there factory’s are close to me in SC.

Michelin has stopped making tires in the USA? Thats odd since there factory’s are close to me in SC.

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You are indeed correct.

Last time I was buying BFG's for my old celica gts (an oddball 60 series 13" size) I had to buy two from one supplier, and one each from two separate suppliers, as the size, along with many others were discontinued. 

The tyre shop who scrounged around for those told me Michelin had shut down factories here in the states.

I guess they meant "some" factories. 

 

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9/2/2026 9:01am
R66 wrote:

If newsome were to become president, he would try to over regulate the whole country like this. 

You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at lowest level possible, that’s the founding father’s intent. 

Last time I went to California, I had to throw away half my food that I brought with me. Almost felt like I was at the border. Beautiful state and great people, just weird laws….

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9/2/2026 9:28am
R66 wrote:

If newsome were to become president, he would try to over regulate the whole country like this. 

Dudley wrote:
You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at...

You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at lowest level possible, that’s the founding father’s intent. 

Last time I went to California, I had to throw away half my food that I brought with me. Almost felt like I was at the border. Beautiful state and great people, just weird laws….

The California Inspection Station? They took all fruits and vegetables?

Pull an out of state boat thru there and see what happens! 🤣

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9/2/2026 9:34am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2026 10:00am

What the actual fawk...  ...it's been a while since I have driven into California...
...(edit), it's been decades since I entered CA in a vehicle...
...I guess these inspection stations have been in place for quite a while...
...just don't recall having to stop when I crossed over from AZ years ago...
...I guess I did or maybe it was closed when I drove through...(end of edit)
...just read above about throwing out food at the State Border...
...I get the evasive pest concern, but seems...  ...well, seems weird......
...flame away f-tards...

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R66 wrote:

If newsome were to become president, he would try to over regulate the whole country like this. 

Dudley wrote:
You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at...

You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at lowest level possible, that’s the founding father’s intent. 

Last time I went to California, I had to throw away half my food that I brought with me. Almost felt like I was at the border. Beautiful state and great people, just weird laws….

TeamGreen wrote:

The California Inspection Station? They took all fruits and vegetables?

Pull an out of state boat thru there and see what happens! 🤣

Indeed, paid a lot more at the grocery store in California to replace 😣 I can only imagine the hoops for watercraft. I’ll say camping in Red Wood forests was amazing, and well worth it. 

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9/2/2026 10:04am
Dudley wrote:
You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at...

You’re not wrong. LA, Denver, New York etc etc have a problem, let’s make a law for them and expect everyone to follow law. Legislate at lowest level possible, that’s the founding father’s intent. 

Last time I went to California, I had to throw away half my food that I brought with me. Almost felt like I was at the border. Beautiful state and great people, just weird laws….

TeamGreen wrote:

The California Inspection Station? They took all fruits and vegetables?

Pull an out of state boat thru there and see what happens! 🤣

Dudley wrote:
Indeed, paid a lot more at the grocery store in California to replace 😣 I can only imagine the hoops for watercraft. I’ll say camping in...

Indeed, paid a lot more at the grocery store in California to replace 😣 I can only imagine the hoops for watercraft. I’ll say camping in Red Wood forests was amazing, and well worth it. 

Next Time..

LET A BROTHER KNOW!

💪🏼🇺🇸

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9/2/2026 10:16am

There are exceptions for all the tires that anybody on here is worried about.   Its more for the average tire that people are putting on their Tesla,  or minivans that don't really care about anything but them being round and that they can drove on them.  The exception list is long  

 

 The law defines a large off road tire as.

Exemption Criteria
  • Tire Diameter: Must measure 34.5 inches or greater.
  • Speed Rating: Must have a speed rating of Q or lower (which corresponds to a maximum speed capability of 99 mph).

 

Other exempt tires 

  • Competition tires: Built purely for track racing and high-speed grip, where fuel economy is not a factor.
  • All-weather winter performance tires: Optimized with special rubber compounds and heavy siping to grip ice and snow safely in freezing temperatures.
  • Long-life tires: Built with harder compounds designed to last for high mileages.
  • Ultra-high-performance (UHP) tires: Optimized for sports cars that require extreme cornering grip and high-speed stability.
  • Low-load-index tires: Designed for lighter vehicles or specific weight-bearing limits.
  • Special characteristic tires: A catch-all category for other niche engineering designs.

That last one could apply to all terrain tires, mud tires  , the snow or all weather  exception could also apply to all terrains 

 So in other words, if You want a special tire you can still get it. And the law pretty much changes what will be offered to the people who don't care what they are buying.  

 

  I looked quickly and   Dunlop and Goodyear    were  manufacturers that they talked to that expressed concerns over the proposed regulations.  

 

Members of the USTMA  ( Us tire manufacturers association ) were also involved and a part of the discussions.  Non of them endorse or expressed concerns as far as I found. he list below are the brands that are members of the USTMA

       Bridgestone

 

 The law goes into effect in 2033 , and I would be willing to bet that the tire manufacturers are behind the law as much as the California government is.  They know they can make more money off the new tires and it equals competition out between brands by having certain standards .  It filters out the cheap tires  made by brands who do not go through the process of being certified and may help eliminate smaller brands by making it cost more to sell in that market.

 I bet this has as much to do with an influx of cheap Chinese tires as it does with  emissions.  Legacy brands seeing a hit to their sales and lobbying to protect their place in the market , and  just like the bike brands in the AMA  they lobby for laws  that give  them some sort of advantage.  Regulating the segment of the markets that a no name cheap Chinese tire would have the best chances at selling well. The people who buy tires based off price alone. That is my opinion after reading through some of the actual details.     

 

 

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9/2/2026 10:34am
sumdood wrote:
Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not...

Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not pay any extra fees or fines you try to charge us. Fuck you, arrest us all. Go ahead and try.  

 

The sheer shortsightedness of this administration is astounding. That, or the Marie Antionette Attitude is in full effect.  

I am going to buy the exact tire I want, based on all the factors that are important to me. If those tires are not sold in California, then I will buy them elsewhere, and, unfortunately, contribute to the further erosion of business success for yet another industry in this state. Newscum cannot possibly think that this law is going to help anything; he simply wants to erect another barrier to free travel in California. If the tire industry here goes out of business, so much the better as far as he's concerned. The vile, bilious hatred he harbors for automobiles is unbelievable. 

 

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9/2/2026 10:40am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2026 10:41am
lumpy790 wrote:
Michelin has stopped making tires in the USA? Thats odd since there factory’s are close to me in SC.

Michelin has stopped making tires in the USA? Thats odd since there factory’s are close to me in SC.

IMG 2267
You are indeed correct.Last time I was buying BFG's for my old celica gts (an oddball 60 series 13" size) I had to buy two from...

You are indeed correct.

Last time I was buying BFG's for my old celica gts (an oddball 60 series 13" size) I had to buy two from one supplier, and one each from two separate suppliers, as the size, along with many others were discontinued. 

The tyre shop who scrounged around for those told me Michelin had shut down factories here in the states.

I guess they meant "some" factories. 

 

Freightliner trucks and my motorhome are made right by the factory so it might have something to do with that.

It could be that Cars and pickups tires are smaller and lighter so maybe those are made overseas and shipped here in bulk?

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9/2/2026 11:56am
lumpy790 wrote:
Freightliner trucks and my motorhome are made right by the factory so it might have something to do with that.It could be that Cars and pickups...

Freightliner trucks and my motorhome are made right by the factory so it might have something to do with that.

It could be that Cars and pickups tires are smaller and lighter so maybe those are made overseas and shipped here in bulk?

From what I researched after your post, all of their tyres sold in the American market are manufactured here.

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9/2/2026 2:12pm
sumdood wrote:
Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not...

Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not pay any extra fees or fines you try to charge us. Fuck you, arrest us all. Go ahead and try.  

 

Falcon wrote:
The sheer shortsightedness of this administration is astounding. That, or the Marie Antionette Attitude is in full effect.  I am going to buy the exact tire...

The sheer shortsightedness of this administration is astounding. That, or the Marie Antionette Attitude is in full effect.  

I am going to buy the exact tire I want, based on all the factors that are important to me. If those tires are not sold in California, then I will buy them elsewhere, and, unfortunately, contribute to the further erosion of business success for yet another industry in this state. Newscum cannot possibly think that this law is going to help anything; he simply wants to erect another barrier to free travel in California. If the tire industry here goes out of business, so much the better as far as he's concerned. The vile, bilious hatred he harbors for automobiles is unbelievable. 

 

Didn't you already tell us you're going to be breaking all the rules? My wife tells me all the time, you're not supposed to do that, you just make your own rules. To which I reply, what, what did I do wrong?

TM

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TeamGreen wrote:

The California Inspection Station? They took all fruits and vegetables?

Pull an out of state boat thru there and see what happens! 🤣

Dudley wrote:
Indeed, paid a lot more at the grocery store in California to replace 😣 I can only imagine the hoops for watercraft. I’ll say camping in...

Indeed, paid a lot more at the grocery store in California to replace 😣 I can only imagine the hoops for watercraft. I’ll say camping in Red Wood forests was amazing, and well worth it. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Next Time..

LET A BROTHER KNOW!

💪🏼🇺🇸

Will do! I told wife, next trip dirt bikes are coming with. We took mountain bikes and I’ve  never ridden such tacky, loam with perfect amount of moisture before. Such a drastic change from blue groove, loose, rocky trails around here. 

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9/3/2026 9:25am
sumdood wrote:
Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not...

Or.... what if everyone in the whole state said no we're not doing that, I'll buy tires in another state, drive wherever I want, and not pay any extra fees or fines you try to charge us. Fuck you, arrest us all. Go ahead and try.  

 

Falcon wrote:
The sheer shortsightedness of this administration is astounding. That, or the Marie Antionette Attitude is in full effect.  I am going to buy the exact tire...

The sheer shortsightedness of this administration is astounding. That, or the Marie Antionette Attitude is in full effect.  

I am going to buy the exact tire I want, based on all the factors that are important to me. If those tires are not sold in California, then I will buy them elsewhere, and, unfortunately, contribute to the further erosion of business success for yet another industry in this state. Newscum cannot possibly think that this law is going to help anything; he simply wants to erect another barrier to free travel in California. If the tire industry here goes out of business, so much the better as far as he's concerned. The vile, bilious hatred he harbors for automobiles is unbelievable. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
Didn't you already tell us you're going to be breaking all the rules? My wife tells me all the time, you're not supposed to do that...

Didn't you already tell us you're going to be breaking all the rules? My wife tells me all the time, you're not supposed to do that, you just make your own rules. To which I reply, what, what did I do wrong?

TM

Yes, I'm going to break every dumb CARB rule I possibly can. 

TBH, I've read that the law is aimed at manufacturers and retailers; they won't be stopping people to inspect their tires. And, many people will be content to drive tires that meet the same OEM specifications, anyway. It only sucks for those of us who want performance tires on some of our vehicles. 

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