Moto Wins for Deegan the next 3 weeks

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The tread is if he can win a moto at each of the upcoming tracks...The thread can be closed, he failed at the first track!

The tread is if he can win a moto at each of the upcoming tracks...

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The thread can be closed, he failed at the first track!

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On vacation and just checked results.  I thought perhaps Deegan may sneak a moto win today or in the next couple races. Was Deegan capable of winning...

On vacation and just checked results.  
I thought perhaps Deegan may sneak a moto win today or in the next couple races. 
Was Deegan capable of winning today witj speed?

With the way Hunter and Prado were riding? No. 

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Yeah after today I'm not sure anymore. Prado is up and down but overall he is better than him right now. So he'd need 3 guys to have a bad race to have a shot at the win. Still think Washougal is his best shot but looks like a long shot now

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Coenen will probably make it 4 guys in Southwick.

 

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While scanning this thread it looks like there's several guys here who are letting their hate for Deegan's character cloud their vision of his performance.  I...

While scanning this thread it looks like there's several guys here who are letting their hate for Deegan's character cloud their vision of his performance.  I know the handful of pathetic kindergartners here are completely hopeless to discuss anything objectively, but let's see if some of you others who have the potential to be stand up guys can let the hate go for a minute and focus on the actual data.  In short, the truth is that Deegan has made massive strides since Thunder Valley and he actually matched Jett's pace at High Point moto 2, while in traffic.  While you guys are all focused on the exaggerating the end result, the teams and riders are breaking down the track into sections to study where they are best/worst and why.

@Mavetism - Deegan said Jett can't use his ankle as an excuse anymore because he knew he had finally just matched Jett's pace.  I say matched, but Deegan actually beat Jett's pace in Moto2.  Can you understand why a rookie who just matched the best guy in the world, who supposedly should be gapping him by 30 seconds, had a reason to be happy and talk smack?  I'm not saying you have to agree with the smack talk, but hopefully you can understand where that came from.  Also, I see you and several others have mentioned that many here have claimed Deegan was going undefeated, or even going to beat Jett often.  Like The Moth asked, who is it that said this and where?  Please provide links and sources because other than a couple extreme members like Super_Fan_38, all I remember seeing is people saying Deegan should be able to run Jett's pace at times, and he has clearly done that.

@CPR - You say Deegan is 3rd best only after Tomac's collision and Chase tucking the front, but isn't staying on two wheels part of the challenge to be one of the best riders in the world?  It's okay for you guys to claim weak field for Deegan, but it's not okay when people talk about how weak the field was in Jett's rookie year?  Go talk to Marchbanks and ask him how easy Jett's rookie year was compared to this year.  Complete Night and Day difference.  Also, Prado's DNF had nothing to do with Deegan smoking him at High Point Moto 2.  I'll be honest I thought Prado was going to hold him up and frustrate him, but Deegan got by him fairly quickly and yarded him.

@TropicPilot - You said he's still back 20+ seconds in every moto and Prado/Lawrence would need to f*ck up?  Did you watch High Point Moto 2?  Do you know Deegan bested Jett's pace? Agreed he'll stick out his tongue and do his antics if he wins, but I'm talking strictly about racing performance here.  And regarding the cheating at  Thunder Valley.  Are you aware he beat both Lawrences in 1/3rd of the other sectors and Deegan gained .5 seconds on Jett in Sector 3 on a lap or two when he didn't take the cheater line?  And that he did not cheat at High Point and went something like 51% win over Jett instead of 33% win at Thunder Valley?

As for a couple other claims and excuses we see around here very often:

  1. Jett was cruising.
    Wrong, Jett does not cruise for 2nd place, to lose a moto and an overall.  Jett does not cruise to let Deegan reel him in and beat his lap times.  If you say Jett is cruising you are actually insulting him, by saying he doesn't have the talent to cruise without almost crashing. The truth is Jett was a bit off, and he was going as fast as he possibly could without wadding himself, which almost happened twice in that moto.  You did not see them on the broadcast.  Also, Jett has had several other sketchy moments this year, so if he's almost going down while 'cruising' that's not a good look for him.
  2. Jett has more in the tank and speeds up when he needs to.
    I agree.  However, doesn't every rider have more in the tank until they crash??  Of course everyone can go faster, until they go down.  And so being pushed into that sketchy zone becomes more of risk. 

For anyone who is capable of reading a 1.5 page write up with all the data, take a look and you will see how much Deegan has improved.  The most impressive stat is that Deegan flipped a sector or two on Hunter, the race winner.  Hunter did not all of a sudden "cruise" or slow down in one sector of the track in Moto2 with his brother chasing him.  That was Deegan figuring it out: 
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/deegan-reality-vs-vital-narrative

As a fan of the Lawrences many of you obnoxious fans are not doing them any favors by propping them up into invincible God-Like status.  They don't appreciate this type of fandom because it brings toxic energy their way and it turns people against them. You are essentially doing exactly what Deegan does to himself, but the Lawrences didn't invite any of it (maybe Jett a little bit).  They know they are human and are aware you guys are just building a pressure cooker that will eventually burst, whenever the universe decides so. 

All the exaggerated talk about how far off Haiden is.  But if Haiden does beat Jett on an off day, does that mean Jett sucks too now because he lost to someone who was never supposed to beat him?  

I don't follow social media but I do see clips that friends send to me.  So I must have missed it, but where did Haiden say he was going to go out and beat Jett?  I recall him saying Jett should be able to beat him, but I missed all the smack talk that everyone seems to reference here, so where is it?   Was it the Tee-Shirt.  Do any of you actually know the story behind the shirt?  I'm not supporting his decision to wear it, but if you know the story behind it you might understand it a little better.  

Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off...

Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off the pace Haiden is and Jett goes down while trying to pass him, after being passed by Haiden.  Maybe some of you guys should simmer down a bit now and just enjoy the show.

Screenshot 2026-07-04 at 2.38.37%E2%80%AFPM 0

 

Jett Lawrence is recovering from a potentially career- ending injury. He rides one day a week. Therefore, his testing is impacted, along with his fitness. 

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very close ties to the Lawrence camp, and they do not appreciate fans like you propping them as invincible.  Because as I already pointed out here, it will come back to bite them.  See yesterday's race for proof in case you missed it.  Jett crashed while trying to pass Deegan.  

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/2026-outdoors-start-somethi…

 

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Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off...

Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off the pace Haiden is and Jett goes down while trying to pass him, after being passed by Haiden.  Maybe some of you guys should simmer down a bit now and just enjoy the show.

Screenshot 2026-07-04 at 2.38.37%E2%80%AFPM 0

 

Jett Lawrence is recovering from a potentially career- ending injury. He rides one day a week. Therefore, his testing is impacted, along with his fitness. 

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very...

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very close ties to the Lawrence camp, and they do not appreciate fans like you propping them as invincible.  Because as I already pointed out here, it will come back to bite them.  See yesterday's race for proof in case you missed it.  Jett crashed while trying to pass Deegan.  

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/2026-outdoors-start-somethi…

 

I didn't realise you have close ties to the Lawrences. Knowing that, as a fan, I will try not to say or do anything that they or you might not appreciate.

Thank you for gracing us with your presence and giving us all of the insider info.

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I guess with finishing behind 

5) Garrett Marchbanks

6) Dylan Ferrandis

7) Mikkel Haarup

8) Cooper Webb

9) Justin Barcia

Deegs is no longer undefeated against the people Jett raced in his rookie season....

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Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off...

Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off the pace Haiden is and Jett goes down while trying to pass him, after being passed by Haiden.  Maybe some of you guys should simmer down a bit now and just enjoy the show.

Screenshot 2026-07-04 at 2.38.37%E2%80%AFPM 0

 

Jett Lawrence is recovering from a potentially career- ending injury. He rides one day a week. Therefore, his testing is impacted, along with his fitness. 

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very...

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very close ties to the Lawrence camp, and they do not appreciate fans like you propping them as invincible.  Because as I already pointed out here, it will come back to bite them.  See yesterday's race for proof in case you missed it.  Jett crashed while trying to pass Deegan.  

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/2026-outdoors-start-somethi…

 

Dude, you are a clown. 

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The Deegan hate is definitely a manifestation of something else. 

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Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off...

Well it happened sooner than I expected.  All the insufferable clowns manifested this today with all the "God-Like" claims.  All this talk about how far off the pace Haiden is and Jett goes down while trying to pass him, after being passed by Haiden.  Maybe some of you guys should simmer down a bit now and just enjoy the show.

Screenshot 2026-07-04 at 2.38.37%E2%80%AFPM 0

 

Jett Lawrence is recovering from a potentially career- ending injury. He rides one day a week. Therefore, his testing is impacted, along with his fitness. 

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very...

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very close ties to the Lawrence camp, and they do not appreciate fans like you propping them as invincible.  Because as I already pointed out here, it will come back to bite them.  See yesterday's race for proof in case you missed it.  Jett crashed while trying to pass Deegan.  

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/2026-outdoors-start-somethi…

 

The thread that gave us gems like "runnin with the wolves" and the below art.  Hall of fame worthy lunacy by BDB and I'm here for it.

Herding the Ducks

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The Deegan hate is definitely a manifestation of something else. 

A lot of guys on here have contracted Jettital herpes. Good news is that it isn't deadly.

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Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

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U all B' Dumb...

Katie Osborne, when she talked to somebody, that said that Dee38n is getting closer and closer and closer

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:It's always seemed to...

Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

yes and no. Prado dropped him like a bad habit this weekend. When Deeg’s tries to run the pace of the Lawrence’s or Prado when he is on he either crashes or has multiple mistakes. This weekend that big sweeper corner he about crashed out bad. But I still believe in Deeg’s will get there, he just will imo. He just doesn’t give up. 

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:It's always seemed to...

Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

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Jett Lawrence is recovering from a potentially career- ending injury. He rides one day a week. Therefore, his testing is impacted, along with his fitness. 

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very...

You mean the one I broke the news here with and got called out by the moderator saying I was making stuff up?  I have very close ties to the Lawrence camp, and they do not appreciate fans like you propping them as invincible.  Because as I already pointed out here, it will come back to bite them.  See yesterday's race for proof in case you missed it.  Jett crashed while trying to pass Deegan.  

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/2026-outdoors-start-somethi…

 

CASH476 wrote:
I didn't realise you have close ties to the Lawrences. Knowing that, as a fan, I will try not to say or do anything that they...

I didn't realise you have close ties to the Lawrences. Knowing that, as a fan, I will try not to say or do anything that they or you might not appreciate.

Thank you for gracing us with your presence and giving us all of the insider info.

The only 'ties' BDM has to the Lawrences is in the form of mulitiple restraining orders to keep him away from their property. 

 

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The Deegan hate is definitely a manifestation of something else. 

No it's not. It's pretty rational. The guy acts like an arsehole - on and off the track. Which is why no one else gets anywhere near the same heat.

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
yes and no. Prado dropped him like a bad habit this weekend. When Deeg’s tries to run the pace of the Lawrence’s or Prado when he...

yes and no. Prado dropped him like a bad habit this weekend. When Deeg’s tries to run the pace of the Lawrence’s or Prado when he is on he either crashes or has multiple mistakes. This weekend that big sweeper corner he about crashed out bad. But I still believe in Deeg’s will get there, he just will imo. He just doesn’t give up. 

Why the stipulation for Prado “when he is on”?  Do the races where Deegan beat Prado count?  

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:It's always seemed to...

Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

DonJulio wrote:

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:It's always seemed to...

Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

DonJulio wrote:

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

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DonJulio wrote:

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

DonJulio wrote:
Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t...

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

You should watch the 2nd moto of Red Bud 2026.

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DonJulio wrote:

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

DonJulio wrote:
Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t...

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

I have not yet watched the race since I was out of town. 

Did something happen that confirms Jett breaking under Deegans riding or is this just silly banter? 

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

DonJulio wrote:
Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t...

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

I can tell nothing will sway your opinion so no point in trying. I’d just like to know how Jett completely cracked Saturday? Won a moto and 3rd overall. Once again gaining points on 38 who was 20+ back both motos again 

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

DonJulio wrote:
Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t...

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

Sandusky26 wrote:

You should watch the 2nd moto of Red Bud 2026.

Who gained more points? 38 must have cracked under the pressure in moto 1 since he ran into marchbanks back tire all on his own right? 

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DonJulio wrote:
Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t...

Your just typed a book about how jett won’t be able to handle the deegan antics….deegan played all the games in high point quali and hasn’t backed it up….once again 

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

DonJulio wrote:
I can tell nothing will sway your opinion so no point in trying. I’d just like to know how Jett completely cracked Saturday? Won a moto...

I can tell nothing will sway your opinion so no point in trying. I’d just like to know how Jett completely cracked Saturday? Won a moto and 3rd overall. Once again gaining points on 38 who was 20+ back both motos again 

If obtuse was a human being.


Moto 2 - yes Jett scored higher in the day. 

Yet for the first time HD put both wheels ahead of Jett, Jett made stupid, out of character mistakes.

His post Moto 1 tantrum looks like a combination of pressures from his ankle to this constant narrative really taking their toll.


Cherry picking in a HD\JL discussion to say HD was 20 back, because he sure wasn’t behind JL.
 

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

DonJulio wrote:
I can tell nothing will sway your opinion so no point in trying. I’d just like to know how Jett completely cracked Saturday? Won a moto...

I can tell nothing will sway your opinion so no point in trying. I’d just like to know how Jett completely cracked Saturday? Won a moto and 3rd overall. Once again gaining points on 38 who was 20+ back both motos again 

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
If obtuse was a human being.Moto 2 - yes Jett scored higher in the day. Yet for the first time HD put both wheels ahead of Jett...

If obtuse was a human being.


Moto 2 - yes Jett scored higher in the day. 

Yet for the first time HD put both wheels ahead of Jett, Jett made stupid, out of character mistakes.

His post Moto 1 tantrum looks like a combination of pressures from his ankle to this constant narrative really taking their toll.


Cherry picking in a HD\JL discussion to say HD was 20 back, because he sure wasn’t behind JL.
 

Ok man, you’re right. 

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

yardsailor wrote:
I have not yet watched the race since I was out of town. Did something happen that confirms Jett breaking under Deegans riding or is this just...

I have not yet watched the race since I was out of town. 

Did something happen that confirms Jett breaking under Deegans riding or is this just silly banter? 

It's just a particularly bad take from Ax Nuts.

 

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Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:It's always seemed to...

Not even sure if this is the right thread - all threads are about Deegan and Jett, but, I just have this thought:

It's always seemed to me like Jett is still that kid out throwing rocks while Hunter stayed practicing.  He has obviously just incredible talent and speed, but I think without Hunter as a compass, he wouldn't be here. Yet he wasn't challenged really up to this point, he always had Hunter as a guide, and his biggest challenger/threat, but he's able to work that out just fine with the dynamics of their brotherly relationship (which are interesting and admirable).

Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett, and probably less so for Hunter. Deegs is splitting them up, creating pressure on and off the track, and I get the vibe that Jett just wants him to "go away" - with most riders, that's easy - just beat them. The media shuts up about them and they fade away. That's not 38 - IF he cares that he's not there yet, he never cracks and lets it show. He's just there, relentless, getting closer and closer, even with the mis-steps, but most importantly showing that he won't shut up. The media won't shut up, the fans won't shut up - and what Jett knows HD will never do is GIVE UP.

Just a relentless little fly (quoting Bubba) buzzing around, waiting for his chance, PROMOTING the whole thing.

I really kind of think Hunter can handle that, because that's to some degree what Jett was to him, a "safe" -  because it's your brother - guy right there getting the bigger media, bigger paydays, not going ot go away, etc. That built Hunter a mental resilience to handle a Deegan long term.

I really don't think Jett has that. This is a whole new type of challenge for him, on top of his injury, and I mean plain and simple, he's starting to crack. He was pissed two weeks ago, legitimately and let himself respond to Deegan's chirps, and Saturday in moto 2 he cracked. 

Deegan has mental racing locked down, and he's arguably the third fastest dude and getting faster. Jett has never really had to build that mental game and it just might now be in his personality to do so.

DonJulio wrote:

Hasn’t deegan lost by 20+ in every moto except 1?

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Has nothing to do with anything I said.

Kinda does, you are assuming that "Deegan is a big pain in the ass for Jett" that he can't handle mentally. Meanwhile he's been handling him by 10-20 seconds every moto but one.

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

"HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not." Faaark that's a stupid take.

His opposition has raced and won at the highest level, 450sx, 450mx MXoN and Deegans just come out of the 250 class. He's doing fantastically at the moment but he's got a way's to go before he's like some kind of cyborg who's relentless pressure is too much to handle.

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Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built...

My post had nothing to do with Deegan backing things up, or really Deegans actions at all.


It’s about Jett not being the type of personality built for this particular type of relentless pressure - on and off the track, where winning isn’t simply enough to make it stop.


He lost the “what’s his name” high road he was trying at HP, and completely cracked in Saturday. We are 5 races into what will be years, likely the rest of both their careers of HD being there being HD with everything that brings.


HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not.

CASH476 wrote:
"HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not." Faaark that's a stupid take.His opposition has raced and won at the highest...

"HD was raised for this like some kind of cyborg, JL was not." Faaark that's a stupid take.

His opposition has raced and won at the highest level, 450sx, 450mx MXoN and Deegans just come out of the 250 class. He's doing fantastically at the moment but he's got a way's to go before he's like some kind of cyborg who's relentless pressure is too much to handle.

Why is it so hard for anyone here to grasp - 


I meant raised for the media circus and that side of the pressure and games.


Of course they were both raised to race, that’s a given.


Jett has never dealt with this side. He’s been the golden child and media darling and the most any riders really gave him was Ando but Ando wasn’t really a threat on the bike - and def not in the media/social conversation.

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