2027 suzuki out this week?

6/18/2026 4:47pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Seems the Suzuki is Amish technology friend.

I’d rather be Amish than a Tractor Riding Farmer! 🧑‍🌾 🤣

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6/18/2026 5:27pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Seems the Suzuki is Amish technology friend.

MoogenKen wrote:

I’d rather be Amish than a Tractor Riding Farmer! 🧑‍🌾 🤣

So bypass your clever name-calling, do you think Suzuki invest in the development of the sport, is a cutting edge bike, is a deal for the average rider. Besides your point of tractor riding farmer, what exactly is your point? Exactly what is your point? That I ride a tractor?

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6/18/2026 5:59pm
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So bypass your clever name-calling, do you think Suzuki invest in the development of the sport, is a cutting edge bike, is a deal for the...

So bypass your clever name-calling, do you think Suzuki invest in the development of the sport, is a cutting edge bike, is a deal for the average rider. Besides your point of tractor riding farmer, what exactly is your point? Exactly what is your point? That I ride a tractor?

You’re taking it much too seriously. I jest. 

Four strokes, farm implements, tractors. So yeah, I refer to every rider on a four stroke as a farmer. 

 

 

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6/18/2026 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 6/18/2026 7:14pm

How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly new plastic, graphics and boom, new RMZ. Baffling

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6/18/2026 7:19pm
How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly...

How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly new plastic, graphics and boom, new RMZ. Baffling

We have been conditioned that every new model has the latest and greatest technology that we must buy. Roczen’s championship, on an obsolete motorcycle proves the point. 

Consumerism is the American way. 

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I hope they add a 2nd kick starter, it'll balance the bike like Honda's dual exhaust.

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flowarmz wrote:
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Looks like Showa to me

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soggy wrote:

Looks like Showa to me

Look at the shock, it’s the kyb from the Rmz 250

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How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly...

How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly new plastic, graphics and boom, new RMZ. Baffling

MoogenKen wrote:
We have been conditioned that every new model has the latest and greatest technology that we must buy. Roczen’s championship, on an obsolete motorcycle proves the...

We have been conditioned that every new model has the latest and greatest technology that we must buy. Roczen’s championship, on an obsolete motorcycle proves the point. 

Consumerism is the American way. 

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

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6/19/2026 5:50pm
rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

You actually put stock in magazine bike shootouts? It’s Fluff. Look at the advertising budget and I will tell you who’s gonna win.

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6/19/2026 6:32pm
Spoonguy wrote:
So bypass your clever name-calling, do you think Suzuki invest in the development of the sport, is a cutting edge bike, is a deal for the...

So bypass your clever name-calling, do you think Suzuki invest in the development of the sport, is a cutting edge bike, is a deal for the average rider. Besides your point of tractor riding farmer, what exactly is your point? Exactly what is your point? That I ride a tractor?

MoogenKen wrote:

You’re taking it much too seriously. I jest. 

Four strokes, farm implements, tractors. So yeah, I refer to every rider on a four stroke as a farmer. 

 

 

Clever shit, you should write children's novels.

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rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

MoogenKen wrote:

You actually put stock in magazine bike shootouts? It’s Fluff. Look at the advertising budget and I will tell you who’s gonna win.

It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on ads?

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6/19/2026 6:42pm
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It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on...

It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on ads?

Yes. 
 

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How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly...

How hard would it be to update it? I don’t know why Suzuki hasn’t bothered to? I mean, heck, just put a kickstart on it, slightly new plastic, graphics and boom, new RMZ. Baffling

MoogenKen wrote:
We have been conditioned that every new model has the latest and greatest technology that we must buy. Roczen’s championship, on an obsolete motorcycle proves the...

We have been conditioned that every new model has the latest and greatest technology that we must buy. Roczen’s championship, on an obsolete motorcycle proves the point. 

Consumerism is the American way. 

rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

Have you ever read a review for a product or bike you own?   Did you 100% agree with all details of the review?   

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6/19/2026 7:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/19/2026 7:12pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Clever shit, you should write children's novels.

You’re kinda special aren’t you, Corky? I’m trying to let you go and you keep trying to draw me in to battle. Fools (you) jump in where angels fear to tread. 

I’m actually a published writer. Children’s books? Motocross mags, so yeah. 

Have the kinda day you deserve. 

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rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

MoogenKen wrote:

You actually put stock in magazine bike shootouts? It’s Fluff. Look at the advertising budget and I will tell you who’s gonna win.

I take much more notice of the objective fact they have come plumb last in every single media review around the world for the past 8 years. Rather than a single rider winning a champsionship on a machine that probably shares 10% of the componentry that you and I would roll out the door from a dealer. 

You'll be doing well to convince anyone that all these results are rigged due to manufactures investing money into these publications. 

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Leave the Suzuki as is for the next 5 years and just don't raise the price.

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I got mine for 6,500, revalved it, installed a slip on purely for vanity, and have the best bike i've ever ridden for less than 7,500.I'm...

I got mine for 6,500, revalved it, installed a slip on purely for vanity, and have the best bike i've ever ridden for less than 7,500.

I'm basically an unpaid suzuki diplomat at this point.

Spoonguy wrote:

Hell of a lot more Hyundai customers than Benz buyers I guess.

You seem to get dopamine from disagreeing with people. 

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flowarmz wrote:
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Looks like Showa to me

flowarmz wrote:

Look at the shock, it’s the kyb from the Rmz 250

I would say this is rumor till the press releasse but, was chatting with the guy running the motorworld suzuki AX team and he mentioned its getting: 

KYB shock (from the 250)

a new air boot (new design that doesnt fit the bfrc)

mapping and maybe a new head 

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Spoonguy wrote:
It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on...

It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on ads?

MoogenKen wrote:

Yes. 
 

So Suzuki does sell as many RMZs as Honda sells CRFs or KTM sells SXs? Probably not....

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Would be cool if they did something similar 

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7/7/2026 12:57pm
Spoonguy wrote:
It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on...

It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on ads?

MoogenKen wrote:

Yes. 
 

Spoonguy wrote:

So Suzuki does sell as many RMZs as Honda sells CRFs or KTM sells SXs? Probably not....

Almost

7/7/2026 1:08pm
MoogenKen wrote:

Yes. 
 

Spoonguy wrote:

So Suzuki does sell as many RMZs as Honda sells CRFs or KTM sells SXs? Probably not....

Almost

Close enough that its not worth the big investments honda nad it put in.

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So Suzuki does sell as many RMZs as Honda sells CRFs or KTM sells SXs? Probably not....

Almost

Close enough that its not worth the big investments honda nad it put in.

Yeah, corporate Honda, what a bunch of dumbasses.

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Almost

Close enough that its not worth the big investments honda nad it put in.

Spoonguy wrote:

Yeah, corporate Honda, what a bunch of dumbasses.

Not dumbasses, but of course they just did post a $2.8B loss.

...And it was in the same quarter that Suzuki passed them up as Japan's second largest automaker, so those guys probably aren't dumbasses either.

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Trailturd wrote:
Everyone talk about the Suzuki being a great value, but when I was bike shopping last, I could get a KX450 for cheaper than a RMZ450...

Everyone talk about the Suzuki being a great value, but when I was bike shopping last, I could get a KX450 for cheaper than a RMZ450 and the KX came with e-start, wifi app for mapping, and better suspension settings. I bought the KX and don't regret it one bit. I want to love the Suzuki, but there are just better deals out there for bikes that offer more.

$6,500 OTD for a 2026 KX250  and $6900 OTD for the 450. That is tough to beat. Power Motorsport's in Sublimity Oregon blows out prices

. I'm probably going to get a kx250x for a Central Oregon single track bike this fall. I can't stomach $11,000 for a 2 stroke 300. 

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rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

MoogenKen wrote:

You actually put stock in magazine bike shootouts? It’s Fluff. Look at the advertising budget and I will tell you who’s gonna win.

Spoonguy wrote:
It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on...

It's all a corporate conspiracy? Then why are all the other manufacturers spending millions on R&D and retooling when they could just spend the money on ads?

Because they’ve realized most of us in this sport are too stupid and willing to spend money on the latest and greatest that doesn’t make us any better or faster. 

Two bikes I’ve had the most fun on over the last 15-20 years have been the least changed motorcycles… YZ250 and RMZ450 and I’m not faster on those or any of the new bikes from any other brands I’ve ridden. 

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1 day ago Edited Date/Time 1 day ago

2027 RMZ450   KYB on the new 450

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rjhug1 wrote:
The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true...

The notion that roczen won the champiobship on a 8 year old bike, it doesnt need changing as it beat everything else is simply not true. Roczen raced a HEP that utilises 'some' suzuki parts found on the current model. Webb rides a StarRacing etc. These bikes are so far gone from what comes out of a crate with the labels that we all buy here. 

What is more relevent is that the bike has come dead last in every single shootout in both 250 and 450 for several years. Thats more applicable and telling for us. Not what KR94 has managed. Im speachless that we havent seen a single 250 raced in any category for as long as we can remember. 

I agree with what most people have said about it being a decent product and so many things can be improved with very minor bolt on tweaks such as the shock, engine mounts, hydraulic clutch etc. 

Consumers arent stupid and are not paying a little less for a bike thats 8 years older than one of the other colours. 

MoogenKen wrote:

You actually put stock in magazine bike shootouts? It’s Fluff. Look at the advertising budget and I will tell you who’s gonna win.

Suzuki was our number one advertiser for a few years; they never did better than last or next to last during that time.

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Not really as highlighted but they made some ergo changes on the RMZ250. Changes to the sub frame, making it slimmer. They moved the footpegs forward 3.3mm and upward 5.2mm. They also changed the handlebar position by moving them forward 7.4mm and 3.8mm downward. Not sure if thats just a bar change, rotation or different upper triple tree.

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