Who is the most popular privateer of all time?

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DanDunes818 wrote:
I did a interview with JT$ and I told a friend I think he was the most popular work horse privateer of all time. My buddy...
I did a interview with JT$ and I told a friend I think he was the most popular work horse privateer of all time. My buddy argued that no way JT's more popular than Barry Carsten. But my friends from Jersey so he has no credibility at all.

JT's interview is live at LP MX if you guys want to check it out.

A sit down with JT$
I agree, JT. I remember buying JT and his dad steak dinners during the 2000 series so he'd do early morning TV shoots for me. Trust me, they were true privateers (he and his dad). I have a lot of respect for that kid. Met him back when he and Demuth rode for Team Excel in the 90's...
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croom mx 1/26/2011 12:59pm
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Either John Savitski or Mickey Kessler. Both Career Privateers.
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Career Privateers.thats what this topic is about...right?
so people like omara,cooper,and the likes dont count.
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Travis Pastrana. He bought a bike on his way to Texas one year and raced the Pro Challenge at Swan MX Park in Tyler ,Tx. That qualifies as a privateer, and he pretty popular too.Whistling

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xnationalwrench 1/26/2011 1:43pm
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Warren Reid, & Ricky Johnson raced a privateer Honda at 1 of the Superbowls & Ron Leichen raced a privateer bike at a San Diego Supercross.
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mcphilly wrote:
Guy Cooper in the 80s......winning nationals out of the back of a van with his wife as his wrench.....
Yep. Thats my vote.
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catatonic 1/26/2011 2:47pm
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Define 'privateer'. Just sayin',,,,
DanDunes818 wrote:
We were arguing about true workhorse privateers.NOT Ivan Tadesco type privateers. We were talking guys that have never had a factory ride ever..

Excuse the typo..
kxking wrote:
Ivan was factory Suzuki one year.....
Factory Honda????
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motosmith wrote:


Carsten.
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That's the first name I thought of.
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carsten for sure


damien plotts also comes to mind. he holeshot a moto at washougal one year and was absolutely flying
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Marty Moates. 1st american to win the USGP.
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Yeah Carsten had a 2 digit number forever without any factory support! He has to hold the title for being a real privateer. Jojo did qualify for nationals in 3 different decades but he did have some Honda support at one time even though it was minimal.

There is a lot of them that were popular and had good rides with a lot of following but it also depends on the area.
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zippy895 wrote:
Career Privateers.thats what this topic is about...right?
so people like omara,cooper,and the likes dont count.
Exactly, if they want to have a good debate I think the riders we talk about should never of had any factory support throughout their career. It's hard though cause you never know really what kind of support riders are getting.
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Can't believe no one said Heath Voss
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cjg23307 wrote:
Can't believe no one said Heath Voss
Voss was a full blown factory Yamaha rider for a bunch of years.
DanDunes818 1/26/2011 4:24pm
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DanDunes818 wrote:
We were arguing about true workhorse privateers.NOT Ivan Tadesco type privateers. We were talking guys that have never had a factory ride ever..

Excuse the typo..
smc916 wrote:
Huh..? Tedesco has ridden for factory teams since his YOT days, Valli and H&H aren't exactly true privateers, or am I not understanding you?
I was at work earlier when I typed this. I didn't check the thread til just now and realized I said Ivan Tedesco type privateers.. I meant to say NOT Ivan Tedesco type privateers..Oooops..lol I said it , or meant to say that because we all know the IT's of the world are about as far from privateer as it gets.
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newmann wrote:
Travis Pastrana. He bought a bike on his way to Texas one year and raced the Pro Challenge at Swan MX Park in Tyler ,Tx. That...
Travis Pastrana. He bought a bike on his way to Texas one year and raced the Pro Challenge at Swan MX Park in Tyler ,Tx. That qualifies as a privateer, and he pretty popular too.Whistling
never heard of him.. what number was he?
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Jo Jo Keller, no contest.........scrub, what scrub?
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Here me throwin the first scrub in 1984, yes i invented the scrub!

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newmann wrote:
Travis Pastrana. He bought a bike on his way to Texas one year and raced the Pro Challenge at Swan MX Park in Tyler ,Tx. That...
Travis Pastrana. He bought a bike on his way to Texas one year and raced the Pro Challenge at Swan MX Park in Tyler ,Tx. That qualifies as a privateer, and he pretty popular too.Whistling
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never heard of him.. what number was he?
You can find out all about the Pastrana guy here
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Hall-of-Fame,25/TRAVIS-PASTRANA,4043
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Can't believe no one said Heath Voss
Chris_ONeal wrote:
Voss was a full blown factory Yamaha rider for a bunch of years.
voss was a full blown factory yamaha rider for a bunch of years what maybe 2 or 3 the rest he was a privateer on a honda and hes been around aloooong time
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Here me throwin the first scrub in 1984, yes i invented the scrub! [IMG]http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n152/charlie365/100_2171.jpg[/IMG]
Here me throwin the first scrub in 1984, yes i invented the scrub!
Is that Trey? Opps.....Ronnie the dirt biker racer guy? Just kidding!!!!
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FastEddy wrote:
Evans Dude was in supercross the movie and now a pro wrestler. You cant get anymore popular then that. ;)
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Dude was in supercross the movie and now a pro wrestler.
You cant get anymore popular then that. Wink
Evans actually had some long autograph lines in the pits and that is no joke.

I haven't seen any name on here yet that could line 'em up like him.

Proof

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I would say Barry Carsten, Ricky Ryan, Kyle Lewis in no particular order
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Barry Carsten. 2 digit number for like 15 years? In the rags from time to time? Has he ever been seriously hurt? That last one I put down is a testament to how good he was naturally. He just worked on physical conditioning and going to the edge, but not over it.

If anything, he was smart to be that competitive for that long. Just don't see it happening again, as far as the longevity for someone doing it on his own dime!!!
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Bruce Stratton
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Jason Frenette!
RexBackman 1/26/2011 6:54pm
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Lots of good names here.

But don't forget that in the 70's Tony DiStefano on his CZ at age 17 or 18 'vanned it' out of a Dodge and almost won the championship.

This was pre-Suzuki obviously...

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Doug Henry when he traveled out of a van

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