Snipes gets 3 years !

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 11:43pm
what a bunch of shit!
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4/24/2008 3:01pm
Why? He should have been absolved because of his celebrity?
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Too harsh.

Only convicted on three misdemeanor counts of willful failure to file a tax return earlier this year.
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Each misdemeanor carried up to a one year penalty. He's serving his sentence consecutively instead of concurrently, happens all the time.

I think more of the ultra-rich and celebrities should be imprisoned for failing to file or cheating on their returns.
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Mutt wrote:
Why? He should have been absolved because of his celebrity?
It appears the opposite has happened:

In a 37-page memo to the court filed earlier this month, U.S. Attorney Robert E. O'Neill called Snipes a "notorious" and repeat offender who should be made an example, not only because of the amount of money involved, but because of the high-profile—and, O'Neill said, misleading—nature of the case.

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Gotsta go with Mutt on this one
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I am sure the letter by Woody Harrelson really impressed him!!
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For some odd reason, Federal judges aren't fond of Woody.....or his family.
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I think that incident with his father and the federal judge left a bad taste in their mouths!!!!
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Fuck it, now I'll have to come out of retirement to make some action movies....
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Fuck it, now I'll have to come out of retirement to make some action movies....
Do Blade 4.
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Shaft 10...
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Question: how much time did Willie Nelson do when he was busted for 17 million in unpaid taxes?


seems unfair to me.
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CR250Rider wrote:
Question: how much time did Willie Nelson do when he was busted for 17 million in unpaid taxes?


seems unfair to me.
Irrelevant
Different cases
Different circumstances
Different issues

This isn't kindergarten where you yell "Jimmy only got a time out for chewing gum"

He didn't even fudge his taxes, he blatantly disregarded them and did not file at all for three years.

Not the same as ol Willie
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The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate and total documented prison population in the world.

wonder why.


Snipes read a prepared statement, describing himself as an "idealist, naive, passionate, truth-seeking, spiritual-seeking artist" who epitomized the expression "mo' money, mo' problems." I am very sorry for my mistakes and errors," Snipes told the judge. "This will never happen again."

His lawyers tried to give the court three envelopes with checks totaling $5 million, but the judge and prosecutor said they could not accept the payments. An Internal Revenue Service agent collected the money during a recess.

The judge said prison officials would notify Snipes when to begin serving his sentence. Snipes said he would appeal the verdict but prosecutors vowed to oppose any request to allow him to remain free on bond while the appeal is pending.
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"The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate and total documented prison population in the world.

wonder why. "

We're very good documenters?
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Now it sounds like they are inferring that he is going to be a flight risk. Funny how fast the IRS rep. got with Snipes during intermissions to get the 5 million!!
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February 28, 2008

1 in 100 U.S. Adults Behind Bars, New Study Says

By ADAM LIPTAK
For the first time in the nation’s history, more than one in 100 American adults is behind bars, according to a new report.

Nationwide, the prison population grew by 25,000 last year, bringing it to almost 1.6 million. Another 723,000 people are in local jails. The number of American adults is about 230 million, meaning that one in every 99.1 adults is behind bars.

Incarceration rates are even higher for some groups. One in 36 Hispanic adults is behind bars, based on Justice Department figures for 2006. One in 15 black adults is, too, as is one in nine black men between the ages of 20 and 34.

The report, from the Pew Center on the States, also found that only one in 355 white women between the ages of 35 and 39 are behind bars but that one in 100 black women are.

The report’s methodology differed from that used by the Justice Department, which calculates the incarceration rate by using the total population rather than the adult population as the denominator. Using the department’s methodology, about one in 130 Americans is behind bars.

Either way, said Susan Urahn, the center’s managing director, “we aren’t really getting the return in public safety from this level of incarceration.”

But Paul Cassell, a law professor at the University of Utah and a former federal judge, said the Pew report considered only half of the cost-benefit equation and overlooked the “very tangible benefits — lower crime rates.”

In the past 20 years, according the Federal Bureau of Investigation, violent crime rates fell by 25 percent, to 464 for every 100,000 people in 2007 from 612.5 in 1987.

“While we certainly want to be smart about who we put into prisons,” Professor Cassell said, “it would be a mistake to think that we can release any significant number of prisoners without increasing crime rates. One out of every 100 adults is behind bars because one out of every 100 adults has committed a serious criminal offense.”

Ms. Urahn said the nation cannot afford the incarceration rate documented in the report. “We tend to be a country in which incarceration is an easy response to crime,” she said. “Being tough on crime is an easy position to take, particularly if you have the money. And we did have the money in the ‘80s and ‘90s.”

Now, with fewer resources available, the report said, “prison costs are blowing a hole in state budgets.” On average, states spend almost 7 percent on their budgets on corrections, trailing only healthcare, education and transportation.

In 2007, according to the National Association of State Budgeting Officers, states spent $44 billion in tax dollars on corrections. That is up from $10.6 billion in 1987, a 127 increase once adjusted for inflation. With money from bonds and the federal government included, total state spending on corrections last year was $49 billion. By 2011, the report said, states are on track to spend an additional $25 billion.

It cost an average of $23,876 dollars to imprison someone in 2005, the most recent year for which data were available. But state spending varies widely, from $45,000 a year in Rhode Island to $13,000 in Louisiana.

The cost of medical care is growing by 10 percent annually, the report said, and will accelerate as the prison population ages.

About one in nine state government employees works in corrections, and some states are finding it hard to fill those jobs. California spent more than $500 million on overtime alone in 2006.

The number of prisoners in California dropped by 4,000 last year, making Texas’s prison system the nation’s largest, at about 172,000. But the Texas legislature last year approved broad changes to the corrections system there, including expansions of drug treatment programs and drug courts and revisions to parole practices.

“Our violent offenders, we lock them up for a very long time — rapists, murderers, child molestors,” said John Whitmire, a Democratic state senator from Houston and the chairman of the state senate’s criminal justice committee. “The problem was that we weren’t smart about nonviolent offenders. The legislature finally caught up with the public.”

He gave an example.

“We have 5,500 D.W.I offenders in prison,” he said, including people caught driving under the influence who had not been in an accident. “They’re in the general population. As serious as drinking and driving is, we should segregate them and give them treatment.”

The Pew report recommended diverting nonviolent offenders away from prison and using punishments short of reincarceration for minor or technical violations of probation or parole. It also urged states to consider earlier release of some prisoners.

Before the recent changes in Texas, Mr. Whitmire said, “we were recycling nonviolent offenders.”


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I haven't followed it closely at all, but my understanding is he didn't pay his taxes and tried to use one of those phony defenses (like the IRS is unconstitutional, taxes are voluntary, etc.) All of which are well documented on the IRS website as to how and why they are faulty defenses and the legal precedents which document that these defenses are losers.
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I think the judge mistreated him due to his celebrity. Had it been one of us...we would never see a jail cell. But he's a good example to make.

So where are all the people who say "Don't pay your taxes...you don't have to?"
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txmxer wrote:
I haven't followed it closely at all, but my understanding is he didn't pay his taxes and tried to use one of those phony defenses (like...
I haven't followed it closely at all, but my understanding is he didn't pay his taxes and tried to use one of those phony defenses (like the IRS is unconstitutional, taxes are voluntary, etc.) All of which are well documented on the IRS website as to how and why they are faulty defenses and the legal precedents which document that these defenses are losers.
They are unconstitutional.
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Tell that to Snipes
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Lots of things are unconstitutional - doesnt mean they dont happen every day.

This country is f'ed up and nobody cares. Everybody is way too comfortable.
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txmxer wrote:
I haven't followed it closely at all, but my understanding is he didn't pay his taxes and tried to use one of those phony defenses (like...
I haven't followed it closely at all, but my understanding is he didn't pay his taxes and tried to use one of those phony defenses (like the IRS is unconstitutional, taxes are voluntary, etc.) All of which are well documented on the IRS website as to how and why they are faulty defenses and the legal precedents which document that these defenses are losers.
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They are unconstitutional.
uh huh...you got your law degree from where?
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It is an implied law. Not an actual one. Go read up.

The problem is that both sides interpret it incorrectly and the entire thing turns into a circus.

Exactly what the founding fathers were trying to avoid.

Amazing how bad we can fuck it up eh?
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4/24/2008 8:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/24/2008 8:51pm
fuck snipes..i pay my taxes

good thing he didn't get busted with some of that devil weed...shit'll rot yer brains. throw the book at em.!
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besides FTE...LAWYERS SUCK ASS
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BobbyM wrote:
besides FTE...LAWYERS SUCK ASS
My old man is a good guy too. So, besides FTE and him ....yeah THEY SUCK! lol
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Big Lenny wrote:
Fuck it, now I'll have to come out of retirement to make some action movies....
Lenny, I dont think these young 'uns are aware of your earlier acting years in action film.

4/25/2008 5:56am
Lenny got his ass whipped in Enter the Dragon

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