canards vs reeds honda

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 1:45am
besides the hydraulic clutch,how much real diference is there between the two. would reed go faster on canards bike
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cmhall90usmc 1/17/2011 3:55pm
1/17/2011 3:55pm
thats hard to determine Im sure his bike still has a long way to go, by the middle of the season he should have it dialed in, but it's hard to say if he would go faster
Aus_Rider_22 1/17/2011 3:56pm
1/17/2011 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 1/17/2011 3:56pm
I don't think Reed would necessarily go faster on Trey's factory Honda.

The difference is Factory Honda has more resources and people at its disposal to make the bike exactly how the rider wants. Not saying Reed's isn't setup how he wants but the man power and resources would be far greater at the factory IMO.
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TeamGreen 1/17/2011 3:59pm
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The biggest difference is about 10-15 pounds.

I'm jus' sayin'...
UpTiTe 1/17/2011 4:29pm
1/17/2011 4:29pm
TeamGreen wrote:
The biggest difference is about 10-15 pounds.

I'm jus' sayin'...
And a better tranny.

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BLAHBLAH 1/17/2011 4:34pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
And a better tranny.
Reed has a factory tranny..
UpTiTe 1/17/2011 4:35pm
1/17/2011 4:35pm
UpTiTe wrote:
And a better tranny.
BLAHBLAH wrote:
Reed has a factory tranny..
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
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silver753 1/17/2011 4:35pm
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He has the same trans, weight is with a couple of pounds. Mainly set up options, pegs, bar clamps, brake pedals, shifters, ect.
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ando 1/17/2011 4:40pm
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The difference is the extra couple of months of testing that Trey has had.
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jmar 1/17/2011 5:08pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
And a better tranny.
BLAHBLAH wrote:
Reed has a factory tranny..
UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
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mrquick 1/17/2011 5:09pm
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I watched a interview with MC the other day .He was talking about Reed and he said Reed had burned too many bridges coming up but to make a long story short.MC had been testing the new CR's and made a point to say that Reed would never have anything like the bikes(canards?) he was testing for honda...food for thought.
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tk351 1/17/2011 5:12pm
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
Reed has a factory tranny..
UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
jmar wrote:
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
on a podcast with matthes he said he bought everything on the bike. so who knows what he could get on it
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easy_e 1/17/2011 5:19pm
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I remember that video. Does MC really think it's a good idea not to lobby for CR to have the good stuff? I heard he paid for some unobtainable parts to the average guy but they should really hook him up with some factory parts/ lightweight stuff to go along with his pc mods.
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mxerbear 1/17/2011 5:22pm
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Mc said in a podcast that reed was gettin a tranny from honda
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Ozzy133 1/17/2011 6:21pm
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
Reed has a factory tranny..
UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
jmar wrote:
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
Listen to the podcast with Matthes, Honda sound pretty helpful. He's got a factory tranny, they don't just give them away.
thefactorypilot 1/17/2011 6:38pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
jmar wrote:
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
Ozzy133 wrote:
Listen to the podcast with Matthes, Honda sound pretty helpful. He's got a factory tranny, they don't just give them away.
Exactly... he's said out loud that he has had to pay for some stuff.
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mxb2 1/17/2011 9:16pm
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mxerbear wrote:
Mc said in a podcast that reed was gettin a tranny from honda
How much are Trannys from Honda, the streets of baltimore have trannys pretty cheap! LOL
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I'm wondering where the HRC traction control went to, as it appears Short didn't take it with him! Laughing
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easy_e wrote:
I remember that video. Does MC really think it's a good idea not to lobby for CR to have the good stuff? I heard he paid...
I remember that video. Does MC really think it's a good idea not to lobby for CR to have the good stuff? I heard he paid for some unobtainable parts to the average guy but they should really hook him up with some factory parts/ lightweight stuff to go along with his pc mods.
Were you at PHX? I thought I saw you in sitting in one of those suites. I was seated directly in front.

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BornA'Lil2Slow 1/17/2011 11:11pm
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hes getting electronics and tranny from honda. As I understand it though... and please correct away if I am wrong, they didnt say here you go, enjoy, it was a you can have X for Y type of deal.
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burnside 1/18/2011 12:18am
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mrquick wrote:
I watched a interview with MC the other day .He was talking about Reed and he said Reed had burned too many bridges coming up but...
I watched a interview with MC the other day .He was talking about Reed and he said Reed had burned too many bridges coming up but to make a long story short.MC had been testing the new CR's and made a point to say that Reed would never have anything like the bikes(canards?) he was testing for honda...food for thought.
Some things MC has said recently is kind of tarnishing his status as my schoolboy hero haha. Hope he doesn't go wack with age.
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JaumeTGO 1/18/2011 3:11am
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Did you notice that Kdub has the hidraulic clutch in his bike??
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RedRider31 1/18/2011 5:58am
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JaumeTGO wrote:
Did you notice that Kdub has the hidraulic clutch in his bike??
yea i just saw that last week.



so what makes a factory tranny so special? is it just smoother to shift?
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Shawn142 1/18/2011 6:26am
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According to the podcast with Ping and Weege a few weeks ago the main thing is the factory tranny extends 2nd gear. I guess the stocker leaves guys in a nowhere land shifting between 2nd and 3rd to find the meat of the power. Ping said it was a problem BT101 struggled with a little last year, but Honda was going to sell TLD a factory tranny for this year. But of course no 450 rider.
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RedRider31 1/18/2011 6:34am
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ohhhh... that makes sense.

thx
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lilbulld 1/18/2011 6:45am
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
Reed has a factory tranny..
UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
jmar wrote:
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
All the more reason he's so quick to thank Mitch so much
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typ2vw159 1/18/2011 6:54am
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UpTiTe wrote:
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
jmar wrote:
I doubt that Honda gave Reed shit.

Just my personal opinion.
Ozzy133 wrote:
Listen to the podcast with Matthes, Honda sound pretty helpful. He's got a factory tranny, they don't just give them away.
You get a set of gears not there cases.
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Mikep147 1/18/2011 7:31am
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According to the information on Transworld or Racerx i dont recall which one on Trey's bike a few day's back his factory 450 is somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-15 lbs less than his lites bike of last year.
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Lightning78 1/18/2011 8:51am
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Mikep147 wrote:
According to the information on Transworld or Racerx i dont recall which one on Trey's bike a few day's back his factory 450 is somewhere in...
According to the information on Transworld or Racerx i dont recall which one on Trey's bike a few day's back his factory 450 is somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-15 lbs less than his lites bike of last year.
It was 6 pounds lighter ...... but really do the math on that one, the geico lines bikes are essentially factory hondas effort so its unlikely they are pigs and are already light compared to the rest of the other crf250 riders .......how in the heck did Honda get 6 pounds under an already light 250f that began 10 to 20 lbs lighter stock? Is that even legal for a 450 to be that light in doing the math I'm thinking the 450 must be in the 215 range....
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CR250Rider 1/18/2011 9:04am
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a 215 lb 450 ???

that's like 25 lbs lighter than a few stock 450 bikes of 2010
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easy_e 1/18/2011 11:22am
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If it's true that canards bike is 10-15 pounds lighter where did they manage to shave off all that weight vs reeds bike?

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