The reason Dems are so effective

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

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The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of...

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

The dems aren’t effective at all. Most people that vote for them do it because they can’t stomach republicans. 

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The Elites are on both sides of the aisle and they do a great job having us fight amongst ourselves instead of going after them. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of...

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

soggy wrote:

The dems aren’t effective at all. Most people that vote for them do it because they can’t stomach republicans. 

At this point supporting either party is ludicrous to me. Neither one has any intention of looking out for us, they just dress their promises in whatever fits their voting base best, then proceed to fuck us over again and again.

But to think the media is demorat owned is pretty preposterous. I'd bet not one of the CEO's of these media companies is left leaning in any way. These asshats just throw their on air support to whatever draws the biggest ad dollars. It's all garbage.

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 It would be so nice and simple if only a single party had corruption in it but its not an exclusive . 

Fox and Newsmax cover for Trump and Republicans . Bari Weiss killed a 60 minutes story for Trump and is reshaping CBS news as more right leaning.    And just about all the big news channels  and main networks are all being bought by people who lean very hard to the right.  So either things will change and have a heavy right leaning style. Or more likely they will stay similar and keep playing us all against each other by getting us worked up about the other side.  

 

  There are also 100's of local stations that Sinclair has bought up. They were one of the groups of local affiliates that refused to run Jimmy Kimmel for that very short amount of time until they saw the money they were missing out on. 

 

Every news outlet does get the same news feed from the AP. It puts out bigger national news and then all the stations report it and it sounds similar. ALL of them use info from the AP feed. But then will rework it and have their own stories that they work on.  Local News that reports on national stuff  use the AP feed much more sometimes even matching reporting word for word  across multiple local news channels.  Some of the late-night shows have put clips together showing it in the past.  

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The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of...

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

soggy wrote:

The dems aren’t effective at all. Most people that vote for them do it because they can’t stomach republicans. 

avidchimp wrote:
At this point supporting either party is ludicrous to me. Neither one has any intention of looking out for us, they just dress their promises in...

At this point supporting either party is ludicrous to me. Neither one has any intention of looking out for us, they just dress their promises in whatever fits their voting base best, then proceed to fuck us over again and again.

But to think the media is demorat owned is pretty preposterous. I'd bet not one of the CEO's of these media companies is left leaning in any way. These asshats just throw their on air support to whatever draws the biggest ad dollars. It's all garbage.

I never really thought I would view MTG as one of the sane ones in the Republican Party but here we are. 

We need more of this energy and working across the aisle. 

I realize most won’t watch this because of the 3 letters it’s associated with. 



 

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The media most definitely is not predominantly democratic owned.


 ALL media is owned by a small group of people- those whom we don’t speak about 


Look up information and research before making such conclusions.

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The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of...

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

No they don't. 

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While it's preposterous to say that the Democrats own the media while accounting for the people and companies that actually own and run them, I see where it comes from.  MAGA have become whiny victims who believe they are constantly persecuted for one thing or another.  They are a mirror of Trump who does it better than any of them.  A non-American singing at the Superbowl, Trannies everywhere ruining girls sports, the fake news media run by the liberals whose only goal is to attack poor Trump, immigrants eating cats and dogs. These are what keep them angry and obedient.  You can't make this shit up.  It truly is amazing to watch.  

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While it's preposterous to say that the Democrats own the media while accounting for the people and companies that actually own and run them, I see...

While it's preposterous to say that the Democrats own the media while accounting for the people and companies that actually own and run them, I see where it comes from.  MAGA have become whiny victims who believe they are constantly persecuted for one thing or another.  They are a mirror of Trump who does it better than any of them.  A non-American singing at the Superbowl, Trannies everywhere ruining girls sports, the fake news media run by the liberals whose only goal is to attack poor Trump, immigrants eating cats and dogs. These are what keep them angry and obedient.  You can't make this shit up.  It truly is amazing to watch.  

Pretty well said. They’ve become the snowflakes. Any legitimate criticism of him they sweep under the rug as someone with an ax to grind. 

It’s the most successful part of his presidency. 

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While you guys are taking the meaning of "own" literally. I'm not claiming they purchased controlling interest in the legacy media. However, media people come from academia which is by far and away left. They groom their students to be leftist. So when they get into the work force their bias is in constant view. And in order to succeed they have to present left leaning content. To get left leaning content they need to be in bed with the dems. Also, which major news outlet had not a single republican editor? Was it the NYT? And when the news papers are going to be sold to a conservative owner the entire staff threatens to quit? These are not made up stories.

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I think what TM was saying is that the majority of cable and network news is left leaning. Not literally owned by the left. 

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I think what TM was saying is that the majority of cable and network news is left leaning. Not literally owned by the left. 

Its close to  being literally being owned by the right . Much of legacy media is being bought up by more right leaning companies.  

 

 I personally think opinion should be left out of anything labeled as News. I hate how news has shifted to not just reporting whats happening, but then saying how the news caster feels about it.  The problem is that most people do not like to see and hear what they don't want to. Ratings are higher when You make news easier to digest by the target audience. 

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I think what TM was saying is that the majority of cable and network news is left leaning. Not literally owned by the left. 

Its close to  being literally being owned by the right . Much of legacy media is being bought up by more right leaning companies.    I personally...

Its close to  being literally being owned by the right . Much of legacy media is being bought up by more right leaning companies.  

 

 I personally think opinion should be left out of anything labeled as News. I hate how news has shifted to not just reporting whats happening, but then saying how the news caster feels about it.  The problem is that most people do not like to see and hear what they don't want to. Ratings are higher when You make news easier to digest by the target audience. 

Disney and Comcast are right leaning? It doesn't really matter anyway, they are in business to make money. They play to their audience like chimp said. Most big media are in the big cities and 2/3 of the big cities are left leaning. 

Ellison has been a democrat donor for a long time. It was only recently that he started sucking up to Trump to get his media deal through. He has promised to minimize CBS's political bias. Which is killing his ratings btw.  

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While you guys are taking the meaning of "own" literally. I'm not claiming they purchased controlling interest in the legacy media. However, media people come from...

While you guys are taking the meaning of "own" literally. I'm not claiming they purchased controlling interest in the legacy media. However, media people come from academia which is by far and away left. They groom their students to be leftist. So when they get into the work force their bias is in constant view. And in order to succeed they have to present left leaning content. To get left leaning content they need to be in bed with the dems. Also, which major news outlet had not a single republican editor? Was it the NYT? And when the news papers are going to be sold to a conservative owner the entire staff threatens to quit? These are not made up stories.

I dunno about this grooming and indoctrinating. Biden won Gen Z voters by 25 points in 2020. Harris only won by 4 points. Kind of flies in the face of the grooming theory. 

I dunno about you but when I was 18-25 I was more likely to try and disagree with my professors then agree. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
While you guys are taking the meaning of "own" literally. I'm not claiming they purchased controlling interest in the legacy media. However, media people come from...

While you guys are taking the meaning of "own" literally. I'm not claiming they purchased controlling interest in the legacy media. However, media people come from academia which is by far and away left. They groom their students to be leftist. So when they get into the work force their bias is in constant view. And in order to succeed they have to present left leaning content. To get left leaning content they need to be in bed with the dems. Also, which major news outlet had not a single republican editor? Was it the NYT? And when the news papers are going to be sold to a conservative owner the entire staff threatens to quit? These are not made up stories.

Uh oh! Now they will tag on to the “in bed “ part and try to get you to prove they sleep together. 

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Uh oh! Now they will tag on to the “in bed “ part and try to get you to prove they sleep together. 

He certainly has the usual kid frothing.

Again. 🤣

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I love it when the npcs can't figure out, both are one and the same... part of one filthy club u gotta be born into.... actually the dems and repubs are different in one way.... dem = prefer lil girls while the repubs do little boys (not my opinion,  from the epstein files).... 

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I love it when the npcs can't figure out, both are one and the same... part of one filthy club u gotta be born into.... actually...

I love it when the npcs can't figure out, both are one and the same... part of one filthy club u gotta be born into.... actually the dems and repubs are different in one way.... dem = prefer lil girls while the repubs do little boys (not my opinion,  from the epstein files).... 

Yeah, because they're sitting on your own desk for first hand perusing. 

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borg wrote:

I think what TM was saying is that the majority of cable and network news is left leaning. Not literally owned by the left. 

Its close to  being literally being owned by the right . Much of legacy media is being bought up by more right leaning companies.    I personally...

Its close to  being literally being owned by the right . Much of legacy media is being bought up by more right leaning companies.  

 

 I personally think opinion should be left out of anything labeled as News. I hate how news has shifted to not just reporting whats happening, but then saying how the news caster feels about it.  The problem is that most people do not like to see and hear what they don't want to. Ratings are higher when You make news easier to digest by the target audience. 

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Disney and Comcast are right leaning? It doesn't really matter anyway, they are in business to make money. They play to their audience like chimp said...

Disney and Comcast are right leaning? It doesn't really matter anyway, they are in business to make money. They play to their audience like chimp said. Most big media are in the big cities and 2/3 of the big cities are left leaning. 

Ellison has been a democrat donor for a long time. It was only recently that he started sucking up to Trump to get his media deal through. He has promised to minimize CBS's political bias. Which is killing his ratings btw.  

They are being bought by paramount/ skydance , my mother has a small amount of Disney  warner bros stocks , I don't remember the exact wording but she got some mail about the potential sale and a vote she was supposed to be a part of but with everything going on I haven't followed what happened since then . Last I knew it was needing government approval.

   My point was that no mater who's owning them, like You said they will still split the audience and go for the ratings . People do not like to watch news they disagree with. But I guess I didn't really say it that well in the second part of that post You quoted. So I think Your making the same point I was.

  In my first post in here I also said how that I doubted any programing would change if they were all owned by right leaning owners. That both sides are working to divide us. It wouldn't make sense to try and get everybody on the same side and united .  If the current owners are super left leaning and influencing the programing to that degree, why would they risk the loss of that impact by selling to more right leaning people? They that power is to worth more than the money from a quick sale . And like You said there is a large amount of people who want that content. Barry Weis has not impacted CBS news as much as many were worried about. Well other than pretty much killing 60 minutes.  But CBS hasn't turned into another Fox/Newsmax like some were worried would happen. 

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Curious to what avenues some here define media? Fox, MSN, CNN? Or online channels like YouTube, FB, X, Insta, Reddit etc? Seems to me that only aging gen-x'ers and boomers are still consuming cable style content

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I think what TM was saying is that the majority of cable and network news is left leaning. Not literally owned by the left. 

Winner winner chicken dinner!

I just needed to rant. It's like when they tell you something, you always have to ask yourself. Why are they telling me this? What's the real reason? And why now? And the Swalwell stuff just got me pissed today, they knew this stuff months and years ago. So you have to ask, did they really want to expose him? I think not, I think they just didn't want 2 Rs running against each other in Nov. We always talk about how corrupt the politicians are but the media is as bad or worse. Had he not run for governor, this would have never made it to the news cycle.

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Why would you watch the news?

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The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of...

The dems own the media. And they can do whatever they want IF they do what the elites want. They will protect the shit out of you as long as you don't upset the apple cart. Some one finds out you did something shitty? The media doesn't address what you did, the headline is "republicans pounce" and try to make it like Republicans are just over reacting. Then if and when you do upset the apple cart, all hell breaks loose and they throw you under the bus so fast with all they have. This of course is to not only get rid of you but to make an example out of you for everyone else that's thinking of stepping out of line. Everyone knew Swalls did shitty stuff and they kept it quiet for years. Why? Because he was a useful idiot, did exactly what he was told and kept getting rewarded for it. But now, he's splitting the dem vote in what would have amounted to 2 republicans going to the governor run off election. So under the bus he goes. Did reporters ever report on it? No because they didn't want to lose their good graces with the dem leak machine. Did other members of congress ever do anything? No, because the elites can hold it over his head to make him do the dirty stuff. Go out and trash Trump and all republican universe. And this is how the elite dems keep control of all the dem minions that never break ranks on voting.

Done ranting!

TM

Damn dude.

You need to get out more. You seem to spend all your waking hours worrying about politics on Vital.

It's kinda sad.

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I’m sure you guys know but just to remind everybody the news we mainly see got ruined when US broadcasting rules were changed and news was re classified as “Entertainment” . No more counter views are required to be presented. It’s all about the dollar now. 

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Why would you watch the news?

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??

And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ??

 

Following in doormatt's shoes isn't a good idea. 

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Why would you watch the news?

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ?? Following in doormatt's shoes...

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??

And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ??

 

Following in doormatt's shoes isn't a good idea. 

Average response from a 50+ year old man.

“My cable news is the only place where I’m not lied to”

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Why would you watch the news?

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ?? Following in doormatt's shoes...

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??

And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ??

 

Following in doormatt's shoes isn't a good idea. 

Is this in of reference to the video I posted of the empty arena for JD Vance? That's a real video, who are you going to believe the news or your lying eyes?

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Why would you watch the news?

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ?? Following in doormatt's shoes...

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??

And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ??

 

Following in doormatt's shoes isn't a good idea. 

El_Rayo wrote:

Average response from a 50+ year old man.

“My cable news is the only place where I’m not lied to”

you either have to watch the news or read online news sources to see get any idea what’s going on.  Those stories could be from many different sources. 

You have to get informed somehow. 

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Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ?? Following in doormatt's shoes...

Why would you take some hack Instagram bullshit as "news"  ??

And repost it as fact, because it's what you choose to believe  ??

 

Following in doormatt's shoes isn't a good idea. 

El_Rayo wrote:

Average response from a 50+ year old man.

“My cable news is the only place where I’m not lied to”

soggy wrote:
you either have to watch the news or read online news sources to see get any idea what’s going on.  Those stories could be from many...

you either have to watch the news or read online news sources to see get any idea what’s going on.  Those stories could be from many different sources. 

You have to get informed somehow. 

It's kind of silly people say why watch the news. It's  a good launch pad. You decide what topics you're interested in and go find more information. If you only rely on the news, that's another issue. But there are topics that come up that you'd otherwise never know about. So why not?

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