Roczen.....you should do the nats now.....

Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 5:11pm
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready for the the A series.....Hangtown welcomes you....when you turn 30 you will have your whole life to live back in your homeland.......let's see what you can do with the likes of Wilson, Barcia Tomac and such....sing it....bring it.....forget the GPs .....come to the US....Turbo.
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1/2/2011 8:51pm
I'm torn on this. I want to see Ken win a GP title before coming here (I'm still waiting for someone to win every title there is). On the other hand I want to see Zach win a World Title. If Ken stays in Europe though I'm just afraid MX2 is going to be a runaway,
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1/2/2011 11:32pm
your callin him out...lol, lol, if you want to get somewhere with this cut him a big fat check than you might actually hold some weight with your words
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KTM treats their riders exceptionally well in GP`S.
1/3/2011 3:07am
and bring Cairolli with him, he has nothing left to prove in europe

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kongols wrote:
KTM treats their riders exceptionally well in GP`S.
Definitely, one of the most professional set ups in Motocross
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1/3/2011 3:12am Edited Date/Time 1/3/2011 3:51am
Id be more worried about Herlings than Barcia. Roczen loves SoCal because of ze pink lemonade unt klimate more than competition. Lets face it, europe sucks climate wise, but the competition is just AS good, And the tracks WAY better
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Stoop wrote:
and bring Cairolli with him, he has nothing left to prove in europe
I think it would be very interesting to have Cairoli contest the nationals, and would also make the MX1 World Championship wide open as I believe he will dominate this year, but also the same with Roczen, if there are no injury upsets then both of these riders should runaway with their respective titles in Europe.

I'd like to see Roczen take a World Title before heading to the USA, but I agree with you that Cairoli should contest the AMA as it would do alot more for his credibility.
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1/3/2011 3:27am
By the way- what is he gonna do in nationals with that c class corner speed?Whistling
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Roczen has a really good shot at a MX2 World title this year so he'll be back for the GP's for sure.
A world title means something to these kids and they want at least one before they go the the US and try SX.
Just like Musqiun, Pourcel, Rattray, Townley, Langston, Tortelli, Albertyn..........
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Stoop wrote:
and bring Cairolli with him, he has nothing left to prove in europe
I think Cairoli got in the same situation Stefan Everts was.
He is a god in Europe now, the new superstar with the cash that comes with it.
Just like Everts, it might be too late for him to leave for a career in the US.
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I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready...
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready for the the A series.....Hangtown welcomes you....when you turn 30 you will have your whole life to live back in your homeland.......let's see what you can do with the likes of Wilson, Barcia Tomac and such....sing it....bring it.....forget the GPs .....come to the US....Turbo.
Maybe Barcia and Tomac should race Roczen, Herlings, Paulin, etc in the GPs....
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Turbo sounds like an impatient fat kid that can't quite reach out and swipe the fancy cake on the top shelf Grinning

Its been Roczen's plan to win a world title and move to America from an early age, he's already contesting the SX series sooner than even he anticipated (he thought he would be 18). Just be patient.
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i am really looking forward to see roczen back in the GPs after the sx-adventure, but turbo had some nice sounding german to offer Smile

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The kid is so young, I think it would be super badass if he won the GPs then came over here next year and starting winning nationals. No need to rush to the US full time yet.
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1/3/2011 8:02am
Stoop wrote:
and bring Cairolli with him, he has nothing left to prove in europe
Jefro98 wrote:
I think Cairoli got in the same situation Stefan Everts was. He is a god in Europe now, the new superstar with the cash that comes...
I think Cairoli got in the same situation Stefan Everts was.
He is a god in Europe now, the new superstar with the cash that comes with it.
Just like Everts, it might be too late for him to leave for a career in the US.
I agree. Maybe it's too late but I'd like to see Cairoli jumping the pond. With Musquin already in the USA, Roczen and Herlings to come in the next years, Cairoli can easily win some World Titles in a row, but they won't have the same importance as winning in the States.
That's why my biggest hope for motocross is to see only one main championship with the riders from all around the world involved.
1/3/2011 8:24am
Stoop wrote:
and bring Cairolli with him, he has nothing left to prove in europe
Jefro98 wrote:
I think Cairoli got in the same situation Stefan Everts was. He is a god in Europe now, the new superstar with the cash that comes...
I think Cairoli got in the same situation Stefan Everts was.
He is a god in Europe now, the new superstar with the cash that comes with it.
Just like Everts, it might be too late for him to leave for a career in the US.
Yep, the only way I see KTM letting Tony out of Europe is if someone else steps up at KTM and they find their #2 guy who can win a championship there with Tony gone.They see what importance a World Championship symbolizes in Europe. They aren't going to give it up to chase a pipe dream in America with him.
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1/3/2011 8:45am
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready...
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready for the the A series.....Hangtown welcomes you....when you turn 30 you will have your whole life to live back in your homeland.......let's see what you can do with the likes of Wilson, Barcia Tomac and such....sing it....bring it.....forget the GPs .....come to the US....Turbo.
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Maybe Barcia and Tomac should race Roczen, Herlings, Paulin, etc in the GPs....
and maybe Dungey and James should race Bowers, Johnson, Demuth, etc in AX.
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Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP series in his first year.. he probably wouldn't even last a full season... Dungey could be a rival for Cairoli though... and Barcia or Tomac wouldn't challenge Roczen for a GP title. Herling and Paulin would probably be closer.
1/3/2011 8:58am
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready...
I'm callin you out.....bring your Deutchesrennmottorad nach der USA und renn mit den grossen Jungen.......leave the B class behind....you know it, we know it, your ready for the the A series.....Hangtown welcomes you....when you turn 30 you will have your whole life to live back in your homeland.......let's see what you can do with the likes of Wilson, Barcia Tomac and such....sing it....bring it.....forget the GPs .....come to the US....Turbo.
Why do that he is getting the best of both, he gets to race SX then come back and ride with the fastest MX2 riders in the world. The nationals would be a step back for him.
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1/3/2011 9:32am
mccread wrote:
Maybe Barcia and Tomac should race Roczen, Herlings, Paulin, etc in the GPs....
they will when their careers are over and they have no place else to go......GP's are for launching a career and ending a career.....Can't wait to see Roczen at the nationals against the worlds best.....
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1/3/2011 9:35am Edited Date/Time 1/3/2011 9:44am
You realise the GP riders are as fast as the AMA riders right? you also realise Roczen was alot faster than Wilson and Canard at the MXDN

Two series -equally fast but very different....

That said I don't mind where Ken races.. I watch both series so it is win win for me :D
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mccread wrote:
Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP...
Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP series in his first year.. he probably wouldn't even last a full season... Dungey could be a rival for Cairoli though... and Barcia or Tomac wouldn't challenge Roczen for a GP title. Herling and Paulin would probably be closer.
AX would be different tracks and states. IMO Stewart wouldnt win an AX title his first year, probably wouldnt even last a full season. Dungey could be a rival for Bowers or Johnson though. Barcia and Tomac wouldnt even challenge Cory Green or Tyler Bright. Catanzaro and Futrell would probably be closer.
1/3/2011 9:55am
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Turbo sounds like an impatient fat kid that can't quite reach out and swipe the fancy cake on the top shelf :lol: Its been Roczen's plan...
Turbo sounds like an impatient fat kid that can't quite reach out and swipe the fancy cake on the top shelf Grinning

Its been Roczen's plan to win a world title and move to America from an early age, he's already contesting the SX series sooner than even he anticipated (he thought he would be 18). Just be patient.
No, not fat by any means LOL....BUT.....if you have a kid with so much skill why waste it in the B level C'ship in the GPs.....I mean, I think the MXON for the past 10 years tells you where the A C'ship reallly is......I don't see guys like Rattray, Pourcel, Searle, Pichon coming over here and dominating........Bayle was really the only go to ever do that.....Langston a close second.....
1/3/2011 9:56am
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Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP...
Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP series in his first year.. he probably wouldn't even last a full season... Dungey could be a rival for Cairoli though... and Barcia or Tomac wouldn't challenge Roczen for a GP title. Herling and Paulin would probably be closer.
Dungey smoked Cairoli at MXON, no?
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mccread wrote:
Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP...
Arenacross is a step down though... racing GPs for an American is a step up...with the different tracks and countries....IMO Stewart would not win a GP series in his first year.. he probably wouldn't even last a full season... Dungey could be a rival for Cairoli though... and Barcia or Tomac wouldn't challenge Roczen for a GP title. Herling and Paulin would probably be closer.
Dungey smoked Cairoli at MXON, no?
He did.
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You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? ....

15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight into how an American would do racing the world series.
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You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? .... 15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight...
You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? ....

15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight into how an American would do racing the world series.
Hmmmm, so I guess aside from Budds Creek and Lakewood that all the tracks we smoked fools on over there in other countries are not used for the GPs? What are they? Like local amateur tracks?
1/3/2011 10:07am
mccread wrote:
You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? .... 15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight...
You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? ....

15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight into how an American would do racing the world series.
Word it how you want......you don't see American champions going to the GPs cause it's the premiere Cship......you see world champions coming to the US and few succeed to the highest level....Turbo
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1/3/2011 10:11am
mccread wrote:
You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? .... 15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight...
You do realise a GP series is totally different to racing the MXDN? ....

15 weekends, 13/14 different countries... deeper competition. The MXDN offers no insight into how an American would do racing the world series.
Word it how you want......you don't see American champions going to the GPs cause it's the premiere Cship......you see world champions coming to the US and...
Word it how you want......you don't see American champions going to the GPs cause it's the premiere Cship......you see world champions coming to the US and few succeed to the highest level....Turbo
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1/3/2011 10:16am Edited Date/Time 1/3/2011 10:17am
Wow, you are dumb and arrogant.... but please keep talking, you are playing up the the americans sterotype very well and it is entertaining! :D

Americans can't hack( for the most part) living and racing in foreign countries, racing on all different types of terrain... that is what makes it harder for them than racing foreigners in their own country... and why they don't come to race GPs. Not because the the series would be easier for them to win.

Dungey would not smoke AC in a World Championship but clearly you to stupid to realise that...it would be close between the two in either series... because they are both great riders.

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