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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

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Government doesn’t seem to be working at all. Imagine fucking away thirty eight trillion dollars and still being ruler of the land. 

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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ"...

For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

You seemed to accept it pretty easily last time it was done.  What's your problem with it now? 

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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ"...

For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

whyZ wrote:

You seemed to accept it pretty easily last time it was done.  What's your problem with it now? 

That knife cuts both ways, like Trump added $2T per year to debt last time, yet he was chosen again this time. And your post is correct, the left claims to be concerned with spending now, but Biden added a ton to debt and his build back investment hasn't panned out. We need to align on principles, not people. We're all really failing at that. The people in government aren't necessarily the problem, they're just a mirror of us. 

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Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not going back in. 

Prepare for an endless circle jerk of political power for the rest of your life unless you’re ready to stand up for your rights and are prepared to sacrifice all of your material wealth to regain the liberties that have been lost to us over the last 125 years or so. A time frame which just happens to more or less coincide with the creation of the federal reserve….. 

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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ"...

For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

whyZ wrote:

You seemed to accept it pretty easily last time it was done.  What's your problem with it now? 

Your assumptions of my take on this anytime is making you look foolish.

I don't agree with it ever happening. Period!

I was simply asking where all the negative posts were now?

It was a simple question.

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Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not...

Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not going back in. 

Prepare for an endless circle jerk of political power for the rest of your life unless you’re ready to stand up for your rights and are prepared to sacrifice all of your material wealth to regain the liberties that have been lost to us over the last 125 years or so. A time frame which just happens to more or less coincide with the creation of the federal reserve….. 

I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did better in the past. Today even the president doesn't know or care about the constitution, for example he talked about blocking Exxon because his feelings were hurt over the "uninvestible" comment, so even he doesn't know or care that the government can't punish or favor people based on them exercising their rights and the masses don't know or care either. Bring back civics so we can align on rights first, then work from there. This country has lost its reference point. 

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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ"...

For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

We’d protest but George has all the sign shops on retainer and all of the crisis actors under contract, so it might take a hot minute to get organized…😎

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Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not...

Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not going back in. 

Prepare for an endless circle jerk of political power for the rest of your life unless you’re ready to stand up for your rights and are prepared to sacrifice all of your material wealth to regain the liberties that have been lost to us over the last 125 years or so. A time frame which just happens to more or less coincide with the creation of the federal reserve….. 

byke wrote:
I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did...

I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did better in the past. Today even the president doesn't know or care about the constitution, for example he talked about blocking Exxon because his feelings were hurt over the "uninvestible" comment, so even he doesn't know or care that the government can't punish or favor people based on them exercising their rights and the masses don't know or care either. Bring back civics so we can align on rights first, then work from there. This country has lost its reference point. 

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the curriculum to the public education system and universities. As well as taking over the curriculum of medical schools which provided the ludicrous conditions which has resulted in our completely inadequate compartmentalized approach to the treatment of dis ease. Which is of course highly profitable. Why cure when you can treat for the length of one’s life? 
  All of this was happening the exact same time that the federal reserve was formed…. Coincidence?? 

You say you want civics taught in schools, but civics not being taught in schools is by design, and highly beneficial to the status quo. If you want civics taught in school, then you want revolution, because only revolution and not reform can provide that. 

You could however go about on your own to teach others civics. Which could certainly be looked at as a revolutionary act. 

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Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won the last election they would be continuing to go after conservatives, not just Trump. Remember the guy that got arrested at the school board meeting sticking up for his daughter who was assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? We’d be seeing a lot more of that kind of stuff. 

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Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not...

Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not going back in. 

Prepare for an endless circle jerk of political power for the rest of your life unless you’re ready to stand up for your rights and are prepared to sacrifice all of your material wealth to regain the liberties that have been lost to us over the last 125 years or so. A time frame which just happens to more or less coincide with the creation of the federal reserve….. 

byke wrote:
I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did...

I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did better in the past. Today even the president doesn't know or care about the constitution, for example he talked about blocking Exxon because his feelings were hurt over the "uninvestible" comment, so even he doesn't know or care that the government can't punish or favor people based on them exercising their rights and the masses don't know or care either. Bring back civics so we can align on rights first, then work from there. This country has lost its reference point. 

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the...

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the curriculum to the public education system and universities. As well as taking over the curriculum of medical schools which provided the ludicrous conditions which has resulted in our completely inadequate compartmentalized approach to the treatment of dis ease. Which is of course highly profitable. Why cure when you can treat for the length of one’s life? 
  All of this was happening the exact same time that the federal reserve was formed…. Coincidence?? 

You say you want civics taught in schools, but civics not being taught in schools is by design, and highly beneficial to the status quo. If you want civics taught in school, then you want revolution, because only revolution and not reform can provide that. 

You could however go about on your own to teach others civics. Which could certainly be looked at as a revolutionary act. 

100% correct about the Rockefeller’s influence on education and the medical industrial complex, also the federal reserve system.  Absolutely no coincidences there, as Rockefeller was a protege of the Rothschilds but you already knew that.😎

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Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not...

Welcome to the new normal. The cat is out of the bag now and unless we the people demand and make for total revolution, its not going back in. 

Prepare for an endless circle jerk of political power for the rest of your life unless you’re ready to stand up for your rights and are prepared to sacrifice all of your material wealth to regain the liberties that have been lost to us over the last 125 years or so. A time frame which just happens to more or less coincide with the creation of the federal reserve….. 

byke wrote:
I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did...

I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did better in the past. Today even the president doesn't know or care about the constitution, for example he talked about blocking Exxon because his feelings were hurt over the "uninvestible" comment, so even he doesn't know or care that the government can't punish or favor people based on them exercising their rights and the masses don't know or care either. Bring back civics so we can align on rights first, then work from there. This country has lost its reference point. 

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the...

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the curriculum to the public education system and universities. As well as taking over the curriculum of medical schools which provided the ludicrous conditions which has resulted in our completely inadequate compartmentalized approach to the treatment of dis ease. Which is of course highly profitable. Why cure when you can treat for the length of one’s life? 
  All of this was happening the exact same time that the federal reserve was formed…. Coincidence?? 

You say you want civics taught in schools, but civics not being taught in schools is by design, and highly beneficial to the status quo. If you want civics taught in school, then you want revolution, because only revolution and not reform can provide that. 

You could however go about on your own to teach others civics. Which could certainly be looked at as a revolutionary act. 

Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is really only short-term profitable (short-term relative to our history, but still longer than a lifetime). 

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byke wrote:
I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did...

I think we could find a lot of  common ground aligning over the the constitution. That's what brought people to the US and how we did better in the past. Today even the president doesn't know or care about the constitution, for example he talked about blocking Exxon because his feelings were hurt over the "uninvestible" comment, so even he doesn't know or care that the government can't punish or favor people based on them exercising their rights and the masses don't know or care either. Bring back civics so we can align on rights first, then work from there. This country has lost its reference point. 

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the...

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the curriculum to the public education system and universities. As well as taking over the curriculum of medical schools which provided the ludicrous conditions which has resulted in our completely inadequate compartmentalized approach to the treatment of dis ease. Which is of course highly profitable. Why cure when you can treat for the length of one’s life? 
  All of this was happening the exact same time that the federal reserve was formed…. Coincidence?? 

You say you want civics taught in schools, but civics not being taught in schools is by design, and highly beneficial to the status quo. If you want civics taught in school, then you want revolution, because only revolution and not reform can provide that. 

You could however go about on your own to teach others civics. Which could certainly be looked at as a revolutionary act. 

byke wrote:
Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is...

Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is really only short-term profitable (short-term relative to our history, but still longer than a lifetime). 

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

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Just curious, are we supposed to be outraged that it's so far over budget? Because the sad truth is, we are so used to any government work being over budget people are not phased any more. Should Powell get looked at for this? Short answer is yes, but if he didn't would anyone lose sleep? Probably not.

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byke wrote:
Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is...

Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is really only short-term profitable (short-term relative to our history, but still longer than a lifetime). 

No, not violent at all. In fact a violent revolution wouldn’t be revolutionary at all but only a continuation of the status quo in a slightly different flavor. Real revolution won’t look anything the Hollywood movies. Revolution means the mass of humanity and the planet is moved into a new epoch. Moving the mass of humanity out of our current paradigm, which is based on violence and coercion, by using the means of violence and coercion doesn’t make much sense does it?? 

And yes I do, because it not being in the classrooms and having a complete shit hole education system is an essential component in maintaining the status quo. 

And yes, it would be sad. But ignorance, instant gratification, and short sighted behavior are fundamental necessities within our current sociocultural framework.  

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I am outraged.

Good, got that off my chest, now I feel better.

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Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the...

Sure, civics, yes.. But keep in mind that the Rockefeller’s took over the role of directing the course of action by providing the bulk of the curriculum to the public education system and universities. As well as taking over the curriculum of medical schools which provided the ludicrous conditions which has resulted in our completely inadequate compartmentalized approach to the treatment of dis ease. Which is of course highly profitable. Why cure when you can treat for the length of one’s life? 
  All of this was happening the exact same time that the federal reserve was formed…. Coincidence?? 

You say you want civics taught in schools, but civics not being taught in schools is by design, and highly beneficial to the status quo. If you want civics taught in school, then you want revolution, because only revolution and not reform can provide that. 

You could however go about on your own to teach others civics. Which could certainly be looked at as a revolutionary act. 

byke wrote:
Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is...

Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is really only short-term profitable (short-term relative to our history, but still longer than a lifetime). 

LoudLove wrote:
Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the...

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

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For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ"...

For the past several years, I've read numerous threads and posts telling us how terrible it is to, how did ya'll say it, "weaponize the DOJ". So many of you fellow Vitards went on and on about how this sort of thing was beyond disgusting and completely unacceptable.

So, I've waited most of the day for you all to jump in here and continue your utter disgust of such behavior. But nothing but crickets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

You can't make this shit up!

whyZ wrote:

You seemed to accept it pretty easily last time it was done.  What's your problem with it now? 

Your assumptions of my take on this anytime is making you look foolish.I don't agree with it ever happening. Period!I was simply asking where all the...

Your assumptions of my take on this anytime is making you look foolish.

I don't agree with it ever happening. Period!

I was simply asking where all the negative posts were now?

It was a simple question.

I’ve been doing plenty of bitching. 

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I’ve been doing plenty of bitching. 

And rightfully justified.

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Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won...

Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won the last election they would be continuing to go after conservatives, not just Trump. Remember the guy that got arrested at the school board meeting sticking up for his daughter who was assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? We’d be seeing a lot more of that kind of stuff. 

"Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it."

The above response is what I would expect from you. If nothing else, you are consistent. Never change.

But I would be very surprised if he was personally a Democrat. Considering he was appointed by Trump in the first place would lead me to believe he is not. But I don't know either way.

It also doesn't matter.

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Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won...

Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won the last election they would be continuing to go after conservatives, not just Trump. Remember the guy that got arrested at the school board meeting sticking up for his daughter who was assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? We’d be seeing a lot more of that kind of stuff. 

"Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it."The above response...

"Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it."

The above response is what I would expect from you. If nothing else, you are consistent. Never change.

But I would be very surprised if he was personally a Democrat. Considering he was appointed by Trump in the first place would lead me to believe he is not. But I don't know either way.

It also doesn't matter.

What about the father who was arrested for speaking out against the boy who assaulted his daughter in the girls restroom. I guess you are ok with that. I would expect nothing else from you. Never change my friend. 

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R66 wrote:
Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won...

Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won the last election they would be continuing to go after conservatives, not just Trump. Remember the guy that got arrested at the school board meeting sticking up for his daughter who was assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? We’d be seeing a lot more of that kind of stuff. 

"Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it."The above response...

"Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it."

The above response is what I would expect from you. If nothing else, you are consistent. Never change.

But I would be very surprised if he was personally a Democrat. Considering he was appointed by Trump in the first place would lead me to believe he is not. But I don't know either way.

It also doesn't matter.

R66 wrote:
What about the father who was arrested for speaking out against the boy who assaulted his daughter in the girls restroom. I guess you are ok...

What about the father who was arrested for speaking out against the boy who assaulted his daughter in the girls restroom. I guess you are ok with that. I would expect nothing else from you. Never change my friend. 

"Whataboutism" at it's finest.

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"Whataboutism" at it's finest.

Ignoring truth?  Do you remember the guy that was thrown to the ground and arrested for speaking up at a school board meeting about his daughter being assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? 

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The only truth here fellas is that the government is, always has been, and always will be the greatest threat to all of us. They may do some things here and there that we like but for the most part they continue to give themselves more power and control. I don’t know how to fix it but I do know that they LOVE IT when we’re all outraged about shit. 

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R66 wrote:
Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won...

Turn about is fair play. Giving dems a taste of their own medicine. They have it coming to them. They asked for it. Had they won the last election they would be continuing to go after conservatives, not just Trump. Remember the guy that got arrested at the school board meeting sticking up for his daughter who was assaulted by a boy in the girls restroom? We’d be seeing a lot more of that kind of stuff. 

What a terrible way to accept the way things operate. This just puts us in an endless cycle where things get worse and worse. 

I’ll say it right here. Assuming we still have a functioning country in 2-4 years I don’t want to se retribution on a republicans in office currently, as easy as it might be. 

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We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming after Powell criminally because he won’t bow to the pressures of the executive branch is an extremely dangerous precedent that we should all be very concerned about.  How would you like Biden (or whoever the hell was actually running the country at the time) deciding the direction of monetary policy?  

In my opinion Powell has actually done a pretty damned good job through Covid and beyond given the dual mandate he’s been tasked with upholding through the Fed (full employment and price stability).  Now, obviously prices have not been stable and employment has fluctuated, but comparatively the dollar has fared well against other currencies around the world.  Again, we can debate whether his job should even exist to begin with, but accepting the reality that he’s executing a job he was given I can’t find any reason for him to be held criminally liable for decisions he’s made.  There’s always room for debate and disagreement about them, but to say any of them are criminal is absurd.  

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1/13/2026 5:01pm
JM485 wrote:
We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming...

We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming after Powell criminally because he won’t bow to the pressures of the executive branch is an extremely dangerous precedent that we should all be very concerned about.  How would you like Biden (or whoever the hell was actually running the country at the time) deciding the direction of monetary policy?  

In my opinion Powell has actually done a pretty damned good job through Covid and beyond given the dual mandate he’s been tasked with upholding through the Fed (full employment and price stability).  Now, obviously prices have not been stable and employment has fluctuated, but comparatively the dollar has fared well against other currencies around the world.  Again, we can debate whether his job should even exist to begin with, but accepting the reality that he’s executing a job he was given I can’t find any reason for him to be held criminally liable for decisions he’s made.  There’s always room for debate and disagreement about them, but to say any of them are criminal is absurd.  

So the point that he shouldn't be accountable is moot as the last administration set the precedent that someone as high as a president can be gone after. But, that's a pretty big overrun that he's in charge of. Did the money get spent legit? Maybe, but if the DOJ has gone after an actual POTUS, everyone is fair game.

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1/13/2026 5:09pm
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Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is...

Revolution as in a violent uprising? You think it would take that much just to get civics back in classrooms? That would be sad. Ignorance is really only short-term profitable (short-term relative to our history, but still longer than a lifetime). 

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Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the...

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands...

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

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1/13/2026 5:21pm
JM485 wrote:
We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming...

We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming after Powell criminally because he won’t bow to the pressures of the executive branch is an extremely dangerous precedent that we should all be very concerned about.  How would you like Biden (or whoever the hell was actually running the country at the time) deciding the direction of monetary policy?  

In my opinion Powell has actually done a pretty damned good job through Covid and beyond given the dual mandate he’s been tasked with upholding through the Fed (full employment and price stability).  Now, obviously prices have not been stable and employment has fluctuated, but comparatively the dollar has fared well against other currencies around the world.  Again, we can debate whether his job should even exist to begin with, but accepting the reality that he’s executing a job he was given I can’t find any reason for him to be held criminally liable for decisions he’s made.  There’s always room for debate and disagreement about them, but to say any of them are criminal is absurd.  

Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?


I firmly of the belief that it needs to be managed independently. But curious to hear other opinions.  

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1/13/2026 8:01pm
JM485 wrote:
We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming...

We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming after Powell criminally because he won’t bow to the pressures of the executive branch is an extremely dangerous precedent that we should all be very concerned about.  How would you like Biden (or whoever the hell was actually running the country at the time) deciding the direction of monetary policy?  

In my opinion Powell has actually done a pretty damned good job through Covid and beyond given the dual mandate he’s been tasked with upholding through the Fed (full employment and price stability).  Now, obviously prices have not been stable and employment has fluctuated, but comparatively the dollar has fared well against other currencies around the world.  Again, we can debate whether his job should even exist to begin with, but accepting the reality that he’s executing a job he was given I can’t find any reason for him to be held criminally liable for decisions he’s made.  There’s always room for debate and disagreement about them, but to say any of them are criminal is absurd.  

JerryVan wrote:
Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?I firmly...

Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?


I firmly of the belief that it needs to be managed independently. But curious to hear other opinions.  

Okay…but…who? 

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