im not countin alessi out yet...

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BobbyM wrote:
if mike is prepared mentally for racing 100% he will be a contender imho.
There's a shocker...
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BobbyM wrote:
if mike is prepared mentally for racing 100% he will be a contender imho.
Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With the right backing and testing he will be fine. He has at least as much talent as anyone.
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I don't know how the SX season will go for him, but outdoors, I think we will be seeing him back towards the front. He struggled badly this year and still ended up 5th or 6th in the overall championship. I'd say if that is when you are struggling you're pretty damn good. I think he can be up front and win some races if he's right in the head like Bobby said.
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12/5/2010 3:34pm
BobbyM wrote:
if mike is prepared mentally for racing 100% he will be a contender imho.
Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With...
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With the right backing and testing he will be fine. He has at least as much talent as anyone.
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process...

Has he ever won a SX? Even in the Lites class? From my recollection, no. So how in the world do you guys think a guy that's never managed to win a Supercross (on small or big bike) will be a contender to win the SX championship with the class as stacked as it is?

Here's a list of previous champions (Lites included) that he will be racing for the title:
-James Stewart
-Chad Reed
-Ryan Dungey
-Ryan Villopoto
-Kevin Windham
-Davi Millsaps
-Ivan Tedesco
-Trey Canard
-Jake Weimer
-Christophe Pourcel*

Here's a list of previous main event winners that don't have championships (Lites included):
-Andrew Short
-Josh Grant
-Austin Stroupe

For those of you that can't count, there are 10 former champs, and 3 main event winners on that list and that's just off the top of my head. So, allow me to repeat myself: How do you expect a guy who has NEVER won ANY Supercross main event to be in the thick of the championship hunt? Including other riders that more talented on a supercross track (such as Metty and the like), I'm blown away that you guys think he'll do better than a top 8 on nights that the stars align and Yoda himself is using the force to get Alessi around the track.

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12/5/2010 4:48pm
Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With...
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With the right backing and testing he will be fine. He has at least as much talent as anyone.
Grieby54 wrote:
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process... Has he...
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process...

Has he ever won a SX? Even in the Lites class? From my recollection, no. So how in the world do you guys think a guy that's never managed to win a Supercross (on small or big bike) will be a contender to win the SX championship with the class as stacked as it is?

Here's a list of previous champions (Lites included) that he will be racing for the title:
-James Stewart
-Chad Reed
-Ryan Dungey
-Ryan Villopoto
-Kevin Windham
-Davi Millsaps
-Ivan Tedesco
-Trey Canard
-Jake Weimer
-Christophe Pourcel*

Here's a list of previous main event winners that don't have championships (Lites included):
-Andrew Short
-Josh Grant
-Austin Stroupe

For those of you that can't count, there are 10 former champs, and 3 main event winners on that list and that's just off the top of my head. So, allow me to repeat myself: How do you expect a guy who has NEVER won ANY Supercross main event to be in the thick of the championship hunt? Including other riders that more talented on a supercross track (such as Metty and the like), I'm blown away that you guys think he'll do better than a top 8 on nights that the stars align and Yoda himself is using the force to get Alessi around the track.
Don't think anyone counts him a threat in SX. We are all talking outdoors and if you think he can't be back at the front you're flatout wrong.
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Wish him well but am predicting...

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Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With...
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With the right backing and testing he will be fine. He has at least as much talent as anyone.
Grieby54 wrote:
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process... Has he...
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process...

Has he ever won a SX? Even in the Lites class? From my recollection, no. So how in the world do you guys think a guy that's never managed to win a Supercross (on small or big bike) will be a contender to win the SX championship with the class as stacked as it is?

Here's a list of previous champions (Lites included) that he will be racing for the title:
-James Stewart
-Chad Reed
-Ryan Dungey
-Ryan Villopoto
-Kevin Windham
-Davi Millsaps
-Ivan Tedesco
-Trey Canard
-Jake Weimer
-Christophe Pourcel*

Here's a list of previous main event winners that don't have championships (Lites included):
-Andrew Short
-Josh Grant
-Austin Stroupe

For those of you that can't count, there are 10 former champs, and 3 main event winners on that list and that's just off the top of my head. So, allow me to repeat myself: How do you expect a guy who has NEVER won ANY Supercross main event to be in the thick of the championship hunt? Including other riders that more talented on a supercross track (such as Metty and the like), I'm blown away that you guys think he'll do better than a top 8 on nights that the stars align and Yoda himself is using the force to get Alessi around the track.
Sure ... I figure why not just stir the pot. I really don't give a rats ass who wins the SX title. Its just filler for me until the real(outdoor) series begins.
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Don't think anyone counts him a threat in SX. We are all talking outdoors and if you think he can't be back at the front you're...
Don't think anyone counts him a threat in SX. We are all talking outdoors and if you think he can't be back at the front you're flatout wrong.
When people are referencing his results in the Australian series, it's about supercross.
When people are talking about LCQ's, it's about supercross.
When people are talking about heat races, it's about supercross.
When people talk about making a main, it's about supercross.
When Ddavis mentioned his performance in Seattle, it's about supercross.
When people talk about his ability in the whoops, it's about supercross.

90% of the posts in this thread are about him and supercross. Maybe try reading before posting.

He SHOULD be a threat in MX on any given day... but we'll have to see if he can get back to old form. I think '09 was the only year that he could have possibly won a championship though... I don't see him beating RV, TC, or CP outdoors for a championship. But then again, this thread is about him racing supercross.
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Don't think anyone counts him a threat in SX. We are all talking outdoors and if you think he can't be back at the front you're...
Don't think anyone counts him a threat in SX. We are all talking outdoors and if you think he can't be back at the front you're flatout wrong.
Grieby54 wrote:
When people are referencing his results in the Australian series, it's about supercross. When people are talking about LCQ's, it's about supercross. When people are talking...
When people are referencing his results in the Australian series, it's about supercross.
When people are talking about LCQ's, it's about supercross.
When people are talking about heat races, it's about supercross.
When people talk about making a main, it's about supercross.
When Ddavis mentioned his performance in Seattle, it's about supercross.
When people talk about his ability in the whoops, it's about supercross.

90% of the posts in this thread are about him and supercross. Maybe try reading before posting.

He SHOULD be a threat in MX on any given day... but we'll have to see if he can get back to old form. I think '09 was the only year that he could have possibly won a championship though... I don't see him beating RV, TC, or CP outdoors for a championship. But then again, this thread is about him racing supercross.
Yes count me in . I say he's a contender in SX .
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12/5/2010 5:18pm
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Yes count me in . I say he's a contender in SX .
When ATKpilot99 says "I say he's a contender in SX," it's about supercross.

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Yes count me in . I say he's a contender in SX .
Grieby54 wrote:
When ATKpilot99 says "I say he's a contender in SX," it's about supercross.

Laughing
You got it ... and my opinion means about as much as anyone else's around here.... nothing.
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Yes count me in . I say he's a contender in SX .
Is SX referring to something I'm not familiar with? Are we talkin' 'bout Supercross?

Alessi will get top 5's all year long..............in the LCQ's (ok that is a bit sarcastic). Outdoors he will be pushed back the spaces occupied by Canard, RV, Pourcel?.

He needs holeshots (or at least top 3 starts) to repeat his good results. In 2010, his good finishes came with good starts. His bad finishes were bad starts. Look at Unadilla and where Stewart was with a bad start....and who he was battling for 11th with. Starts make a big difference. Dungey had three motos with starts outside the top 5. His finishes in these motos were 10th, 6th, DNF.
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didn't take the time to read thru, but that made me LOL. thanks
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Yes count me in . I say he's a contender in SX .
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Is SX referring to something I'm not familiar with? Are we talkin' 'bout Supercross? Alessi will get top 5's all year long..............in the LCQ's (ok that...
Is SX referring to something I'm not familiar with? Are we talkin' 'bout Supercross?

Alessi will get top 5's all year long..............in the LCQ's (ok that is a bit sarcastic). Outdoors he will be pushed back the spaces occupied by Canard, RV, Pourcel?.

He needs holeshots (or at least top 3 starts) to repeat his good results. In 2010, his good finishes came with good starts. His bad finishes were bad starts. Look at Unadilla and where Stewart was with a bad start....and who he was battling for 11th with. Starts make a big difference. Dungey had three motos with starts outside the top 5. His finishes in these motos were 10th, 6th, DNF.
Just having some fun . Everyone is too damn serious around here sometimes...plus I've been watching football and had a few so maybe I will logout now. Laughing
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12/5/2010 6:08pm
BobbyM wrote:
if mike is prepared mentally for racing 100% he will be a contender imho.
Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
yo mama...

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12/5/2010 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2010 6:16pm
Grieby54 wrote:
There's a shocker...
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With...
Maybe a shocker but he is correct. Alessi Is not afraid to lose or look bad as evidenced by his results in the Austrailian championship. With the right backing and testing he will be fine. He has at least as much talent as anyone.
Grieby54 wrote:
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process... Has he...
So the fact that he's not scared to lose or look bad makes him a possible contender for the Supercross championship? Interesting thought process...

Has he ever won a SX? Even in the Lites class? From my recollection, no. So how in the world do you guys think a guy that's never managed to win a Supercross (on small or big bike) will be a contender to win the SX championship with the class as stacked as it is?

Here's a list of previous champions (Lites included) that he will be racing for the title:
-James Stewart
-Chad Reed
-Ryan Dungey
-Ryan Villopoto
-Kevin Windham
-Davi Millsaps
-Ivan Tedesco
-Trey Canard
-Jake Weimer
-Christophe Pourcel*

Here's a list of previous main event winners that don't have championships (Lites included):
-Andrew Short
-Josh Grant
-Austin Stroupe

For those of you that can't count, there are 10 former champs, and 3 main event winners on that list and that's just off the top of my head. So, allow me to repeat myself: How do you expect a guy who has NEVER won ANY Supercross main event to be in the thick of the championship hunt? Including other riders that more talented on a supercross track (such as Metty and the like), I'm blown away that you guys think he'll do better than a top 8 on nights that the stars align and Yoda himself is using the force to get Alessi around the track.
oh we can count...on you being Vital's spermbearded pecker pilot on a daily basis.



glad to see him on the island...right on.

http://www.facebook.com/mikealessi800

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After watching the 800 out here in Australia during super X. I would say he did not look comfortable. The 350 needs alot of R&D for it to be competive in supercross maybe with Roger & Shorty it will make progress, their will also be JDR with tye symmonds. It has struggled to get good starts and has shown very little bennefit on corner speed. IMO
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BobbyM wrote:
oh we can count...on you being Vital's spermbearded pecker pilot on a daily basis.



glad to see him on the island...right on.

http://www.facebook.com/mikealessi800

Laughing Coming from the guy who's a permanent fixture on Alessi's testicles.
12/5/2010 6:48pm
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After watching the 800 out here in Australia during super X. I would say he did not look comfortable. The 350 needs alot of R&D for...
After watching the 800 out here in Australia during super X. I would say he did not look comfortable. The 350 needs alot of R&D for it to be competive in supercross maybe with Roger & Shorty it will make progress, their will also be JDR with tye symmonds. It has struggled to get good starts and has shown very little bennefit on corner speed. IMO
Tye Simmonds, who finished 4th in the Championship, seemed comfortable on the 350. Mike Alessi certainly did not; however, is it the bike, the rider or the race format, i.e. SX (Aussie style or U.S. style) as opposed to MX?

I believe "R&D" (Roger&DeCoster) will make a noticeable difference.
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He was way way off the pace in Australia, i attended a few of the rounds and saw it first hand, its not the bike thats the problem. He will struggle to make the main event let alone top 10...
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i heard his friend jason raced for him all year
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I saw Mike ride Friday with Short on the track. If Mikey sucks so bad, man Andrew is going to look really bad this year... Right now Short is faster, but not by much.. Just judging by what I saw Friday... Who knows what each was working on, but they are close...
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I saw Mike ride Friday with Short on the track. If Mikey sucks so bad, man Andrew is going to look really bad this year... Right...
I saw Mike ride Friday with Short on the track. If Mikey sucks so bad, man Andrew is going to look really bad this year... Right now Short is faster, but not by much.. Just judging by what I saw Friday... Who knows what each was working on, but they are close...
Well that kind of holds true for all riders who make the mains. People here on Vital talk about this guy getting smoked, or that guy got his ass handed to him, but in reality at the end of the day all these guys are so damn close and comparable in speed that the laptimes are usually within a couple seconds. Sure some guys turn 1 or 2 super fast laps in a race but on avg the laps times are very very close. Thats whats so funny about when people post things like "Alessi was 4 seconds a lap faster on the 450". I mean come on, who the hell do you think you're kidding.
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Hey Booby M!

You still got your "Believe the Hype" t-shirt?
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Rim Lock wrote:
Hey Booby M!

You still got your "Believe the Hype" t-shirt?
fuckin eh i do.
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I still believe the hype.Unsure
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Speaking of mike being mentally prepared for the SX season my guess is he is anything but that. I mean the guy went to Australia probably thinking he was gonna lay claim to the championship or at least podium every round with Hanson. When he looked at the riders list Im sure he wasn't too familiar with 75% of the entries until they were blowing by him.Good luck in the LCQ in 2011 and in the Canadian Nationals Champ!
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for 2011. sounds like things are going good since he's got back. huge improvements since he first left on the bike his twitter says. everyone is...
for 2011. sounds like things are going good since he's got back. huge improvements since he first left on the bike his twitter says. everyone is working really well together. thats awesome.

i hope he's in that front pack of riders dicing for a podium. 2011 is going to be an exciting year.

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