I need a new table saw.

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I have no choice but to go with 10 inch portable on a wheel stand.

What are you using and how do you like it?

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12/18/2025 2:06pm

I have the Rigid 15 amp 10” on wheels. The fence is kinda wonky. I’ve wondered if the Bosch would be better. 

12/18/2025 2:22pm Edited Date/Time 12/18/2025 2:24pm

Pretty sure you need more capability than this little beast. I bought it to make cedar display stands for a neighbor that was going to need many!  After 2 runs of 30 display cabinets, never got another order. What really pissed me off was that I spent a LOT of time making really good jigs so I could make decent $$s doing production. 

https://www.acehardware.com/departments/tools/power-tools/bench-and-sta…

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ToolMaker wrote:
Pretty sure you need more capability than this little beast. I bought it to make cedar display stands for a neighbor that was going to need...

Pretty sure you need more capability than this little beast. I bought it to make cedar display stands for a neighbor that was going to need many!  After 2 runs of 30 display cabinets, never got another order. What really pissed me off was that I spent a LOT of time making really good jigs so I could make decent $$s doing production. 

https://www.acehardware.com/departments/tools/power-tools/bench-and-sta…

Probably a good saw but too small. I need the 10" blade.

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12/18/2025 3:37pm Edited Date/Time 12/18/2025 3:45pm

( Home ) Ryobi , Cheap and effective 

Work Dewalt / Diablo blades after the stocker goes 

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12/18/2025 3:49pm

Bosch is the way to go for the mobile units

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12/19/2025 4:48am

I bought the Hercules one, it's done pretty well over the last 5 years. 

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12/19/2025 6:08am

I have the Rigid also, good saw, but am going to upgrade to the Bosch. It is a $100 off at my local Lowe's right now, $599.

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12/19/2025 6:43am
Dirtydeeds wrote:

Bosch is the way to go for the mobile units

I will check that out. 

12/19/2025 8:26am

My local Power Tools shop has these Makita table saws. They retail for $559.99 

(South Africa, so it can't help you much)

Makita MLT 100

 

12/19/2025 8:33am
Oldschool wrote:

( Home ) Ryobi , Cheap and effective 

Work Dewalt / Diablo blades after the stocker goes 

Blades in SA are ridiculously priced...as in you bend over the counter and they shaft you.

I have two blades for our machine which I always have one sharpened blade ready. 

There is a little shop down the road which specializes in sharpening blades, router bits etc. 

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borg
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12/19/2025 5:16pm

Damit Indy! Where the hell have you been? I hate to admit it but I miss you around here.

Anyway, I am looking at that one too. I really like the soft start. My Ryobi jumps off the fuckin floor when you hit the switch. Any saw I get will have soft start. 

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IMG 8153 2.jpeg?VersionId=SZAwwcJ 4w.II have this Dewalt and love the wide rip capacity. Strong motor and a very accurate fence locking system. Strong motor that does not bog down with any cuts as long as the blades are nice and sharp 

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12/20/2025 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 12/20/2025 5:23pm

Borg my Ryobi was jumping off the floor also " what a plastic piece of crap "..

Then one day I held the end of the material and my wife hit the trigger....

I coukd see the blade was off center

The blades hole has so much extra clearance in it that it was offset on the motor Spindle and That's what was making the whole thing Jump everytime !?

 

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I would go with Dewalt if you want a suitcase/tabletop style. The micro adjust fence on the Dewalts are nice.  If you want a contractor saw on a rolling stand I would go with a Bosch. I really liked the Makita but I don't think it's available anymore. The Makita had a 3 1/2 cut depth that was nice for resawing. The Sawstop brand is pretty sweet option  for the safety factor, but it is expensive.

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12/24/2025 6:41am
Oldschool wrote:
Borg my Ryobi was jumping off the floor also " what a plastic piece of crap "..Then one day I held the end of the material...

Borg my Ryobi was jumping off the floor also " what a plastic piece of crap "..

Then one day I held the end of the material and my wife hit the trigger....

I coukd see the blade was off center

The blades hole has so much extra clearance in it that it was offset on the motor Spindle and That's what was making the whole thing Jump everytime !?

 

Mine does it no matter what blade is in there. It's the type of motor. If you have a 4" angle grinder you get the same effect only to a lesser degree. I can live with that issue and even solve it if I wanted to but the real reason I need a new saw is the blade wobble. It's intermittent and caused other problems. About 2 years after I bought the saw, around 2010, I replaced the blade holder. and it helped slightly but went back to it's old tricks before long. I do a fair amount of glueups and i use the saw as a jointer. The random blade wobble is irritating as hell. It's at least $600 or $700 worth of irritation. I will be making cabinets for 2 commercial kitchens/breakrooms this spring so a new saw is coming. 

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12/26/2025 7:08am

Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody have experience?

12/26/2025 6:34pm
ns503 wrote:
Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody...

Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody have experience?

Yes. We use one on site all the time. Its good for what we use it for, scribes mostly, but not great for heavy duty ripping or thicker lumber. 

12/26/2025 6:37pm
Oldschool wrote:
Borg my Ryobi was jumping off the floor also " what a plastic piece of crap "..Then one day I held the end of the material...

Borg my Ryobi was jumping off the floor also " what a plastic piece of crap "..

Then one day I held the end of the material and my wife hit the trigger....

I coukd see the blade was off center

The blades hole has so much extra clearance in it that it was offset on the motor Spindle and That's what was making the whole thing Jump everytime !?

 

borg wrote:
Mine does it no matter what blade is in there. It's the type of motor. If you have a 4" angle grinder you get the same...

Mine does it no matter what blade is in there. It's the type of motor. If you have a 4" angle grinder you get the same effect only to a lesser degree. I can live with that issue and even solve it if I wanted to but the real reason I need a new saw is the blade wobble. It's intermittent and caused other problems. About 2 years after I bought the saw, around 2010, I replaced the blade holder. and it helped slightly but went back to it's old tricks before long. I do a fair amount of glueups and i use the saw as a jointer. The random blade wobble is irritating as hell. It's at least $600 or $700 worth of irritation. I will be making cabinets for 2 commercial kitchens/breakrooms this spring so a new saw is coming. 

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12/26/2025 6:38pm

This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit!

 

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12/26/2025 7:15pm

As a general contractor I have a 10" corded Ridgid that I use for framing, I have a milwaukee battery unit for trim, etc. I like the light weight and quick set up of the Milwaukee. Doesn't last long though with thicker material.

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12/27/2025 5:33am
Dirtydeeds wrote:
This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit! 

This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit!

 

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BIL has an Altendorf, are they same company different models, or competing brands?

12/27/2025 5:38am
Dirtydeeds wrote:
This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit! 

This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit!

 

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ToolMaker wrote:

BIL has an Altendorf, are they same company different models, or competing brands?

Competing brands but both great saws

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Dirtydeeds wrote:
This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit! 

This is my daily. Incredible saw but definitely no jobsite unit!

 

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ToolMaker wrote:

BIL has an Altendorf, are they same company different models, or competing brands?

Dirtydeeds wrote:

Competing brands but both great saws

I originally bought the Ryobi when I started doing a lot of laminate floors. It worked just fine for that. Because it was cheap, it was lightweight and easy to load into my truck without help. For what I'm doing now it's cheapness is much more problematic. The blade wobble is a killer. I have done mods that make it's other weaknesses tolerable. Mainly to the rip fence. The other mod was throwing the miter gauge in the corner and using sleds for crosscuts. 

Because I will be building kitchen cabinets, a good dado setup would really speed up the box making. That ain't happening with the Ryobi.

If you don't mind, I have a couple of questions: 

What are using to join face frames?

What plywood thickness for average duty cabinet boxes? I will be using UV Baltic Birch. 18mm seems a bit overkill for wall cab's. 12mm seems a bit flimsy  but that's all there is in UV.  At least as far as I know. I will be heading over to Golden West today to pick their brains a bit and see what they have. All I have to do is drop your name over there and they fall all over the place to help me.

 

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12/27/2025 6:52am
ToolMaker wrote:

BIL has an Altendorf, are they same company different models, or competing brands?

Dirtydeeds wrote:

Competing brands but both great saws

borg wrote:
I originally bought the Ryobi when I started doing a lot of laminate floors. It worked just fine for that. Because it was cheap, it was...

I originally bought the Ryobi when I started doing a lot of laminate floors. It worked just fine for that. Because it was cheap, it was lightweight and easy to load into my truck without help. For what I'm doing now it's cheapness is much more problematic. The blade wobble is a killer. I have done mods that make it's other weaknesses tolerable. Mainly to the rip fence. The other mod was throwing the miter gauge in the corner and using sleds for crosscuts. 

Because I will be building kitchen cabinets, a good dado setup would really speed up the box making. That ain't happening with the Ryobi.

If you don't mind, I have a couple of questions: 

What are using to join face frames?

What plywood thickness for average duty cabinet boxes? I will be using UV Baltic Birch. 18mm seems a bit overkill for wall cab's. 12mm seems a bit flimsy  but that's all there is in UV.  At least as far as I know. I will be heading over to Golden West today to pick their brains a bit and see what they have. All I have to do is drop your name over there and they fall all over the place to help me.

 

Thats awesome! I hope they take care of you. 

I use 18mm for everything really. As far as face frames, I pocket screw all of those. I have a castle pocket cutter and the kreg face frame clamping table. Makes it super easy. Easily achievable with the portable kreg pocket cutter also. Just make sure to use fine thread screws for hardwoods and coarse thread for soft woods. Oh and I use titebond 3 on all joints along with the pocket screws. 

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12/27/2025 7:25am
Dirtydeeds wrote:

Competing brands but both great saws

borg wrote:
I originally bought the Ryobi when I started doing a lot of laminate floors. It worked just fine for that. Because it was cheap, it was...

I originally bought the Ryobi when I started doing a lot of laminate floors. It worked just fine for that. Because it was cheap, it was lightweight and easy to load into my truck without help. For what I'm doing now it's cheapness is much more problematic. The blade wobble is a killer. I have done mods that make it's other weaknesses tolerable. Mainly to the rip fence. The other mod was throwing the miter gauge in the corner and using sleds for crosscuts. 

Because I will be building kitchen cabinets, a good dado setup would really speed up the box making. That ain't happening with the Ryobi.

If you don't mind, I have a couple of questions: 

What are using to join face frames?

What plywood thickness for average duty cabinet boxes? I will be using UV Baltic Birch. 18mm seems a bit overkill for wall cab's. 12mm seems a bit flimsy  but that's all there is in UV.  At least as far as I know. I will be heading over to Golden West today to pick their brains a bit and see what they have. All I have to do is drop your name over there and they fall all over the place to help me.

 

Dirtydeeds wrote:
Thats awesome! I hope they take care of you. I use 18mm for everything really. As far as face frames, I pocket screw all of those. I...

Thats awesome! I hope they take care of you. 

I use 18mm for everything really. As far as face frames, I pocket screw all of those. I have a castle pocket cutter and the kreg face frame clamping table. Makes it super easy. Easily achievable with the portable kreg pocket cutter also. Just make sure to use fine thread screws for hardwoods and coarse thread for soft woods. Oh and I use titebond 3 on all joints along with the pocket screws. 

Thanks. Will pickup the Kreg kit. been meaning to get one anyway. Much faster than clamps and waiting for glue to dry.

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ns503 wrote:
Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody...

Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody have experience?

They are nice for small jobs or someone that does not use a table saw often. You need at least two of the larger batteries like the 8,0 or 12.0. you can run it in a pinch with a smaller battery, but it won't last long.

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ns503 wrote:
Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody...

Been watching this for a Milwaukee mention. Would kind of like to have a REALLY portable option, and have lots of M18 batteries on hand. Anybody have experience?

BAREIN wrote:
They are nice for small jobs or someone that does not use a table saw often. You need at least two of the larger batteries like...

They are nice for small jobs or someone that does not use a table saw often. You need at least two of the larger batteries like the 8,0 or 12.0. you can run it in a pinch with a smaller battery, but it won't last long.

I don't have any bigger than 5ah. But I have like 16 of them, and the circular saw seems to do ok on them as long as the blade is decent.

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