Bondi Beach terror attack

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Horrific massacre at a Hanukkah celebration. Real world consequences of recognizing a Palestinian state as a reward for Oct 7 and being empathic to the "globalize the Intifada" chants within your borders. 

I thought Australia had no guns by the way?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/least-10-dead-after-mass-shooting-during-…

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Horrific massacre at a Hanukkah celebration. Real world consequences of recognizing a Palestinian state as a reward for Oct 7 and being empathic to the "globalize...

Horrific massacre at a Hanukkah celebration. Real world consequences of recognizing a Palestinian state as a reward for Oct 7 and being empathic to the "globalize the Intifada" chants within your borders. 

I thought Australia had no guns by the way?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/least-10-dead-after-mass-shooting-during-…

Looks like the religion of peace is at it again. How many Islamists have immigrated to Australia? Gun laws only disarm the law abiding, 100% of the time. 

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Looks like the religion of peace is at it again. How many Islamists have immigrated to Australia? Gun laws only disarm the law abiding, 100% of...

Looks like the religion of peace is at it again. How many Islamists have immigrated to Australia? Gun laws only disarm the law abiding, 100% of the time. 

Name a country, too many. 

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Name a country, too many. 

Europe is lost. 

Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western Europe overall is <2. 

If “lost” = mass murder in religious gatherings, the US likely stands on the top of the podium as well. Just curious what metrics we’re using. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Name a country, too many. 

Europe is lost. 

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Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western...

Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western Europe overall is <2. 

If “lost” = mass murder in religious gatherings, the US likely stands on the top of the podium as well. Just curious what metrics we’re using. 

Lost? Overrun by Islam/Muslim hordes. It’s not immigration, it’s an invasion. 

 

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12/14/2025 8:45am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2025 9:29am

It's kinda corporate billionaire media programming hyperbole though. Like the MASS EXODUS OF CALIFORNIA!!! And then you come to find out they were talking about.......0.5%. Same with EUROPE IS LOST OVERRUN BY HOARDS OF MUSLIMS ITS AN INVASION!!! There are definitely problems with people from barbaric shithole countries acting as such, but Europe is doing okay. I'll tell you one thing, if there were something like a global gas shortage, a lot less people would starve to death across Europe than in the USA. They have not hyperconcentrated their commercial agriculture nearly as much as we have. Markets are still what they should be, not overpriced hipster novelties like they are here. 

But, it is a real problem and countries shouldn't be afraid to fight it, even if it means hurting some feelings. 

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Just going to post this again.... give it a read or a listen. Sad how often there's opportunity to post this, but that's what happens when you have a religion that's evil and half the country worries more about accommodating them than condemning them. 

Take note of the total lack of outrage from the supposed moderate Muslims over the next few days. 

https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/sam-harris-the-bright-line-between-good-and-evil/id1570872415?i=1000634523803

https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-bright-line-between-good-and-evil

I'm no fan of Sam Harris, btw, but I'd like liberals to listen to this on repeat until they get it..... 

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It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more that these regions are poor and barbaric and dumb and lazy, but the tool to manipulate people is arbitrary. It's just that Islam has been there for thousands of years, so that's the tool of choice. And the reason why it's important is to make that distinction is so that you're not fooled by people from barbaric regions just because they believe in a different religion. You should be wary just the same.  

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It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more...

It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more that these regions are poor and barbaric and dumb and lazy, but the tool to manipulate people is arbitrary. It's just that Islam has been there for thousands of years, so that's the tool of choice. And the reason why it's important is to make that distinction is so that you're not fooled by people from barbaric regions just because they believe in a different religion. You should be wary just the same.  

Have you ever traveled outside of the United States? You talk about these idealistic Muslim nations, that you’ve only heard about. You come across as very young and unworldly. Not that it’s a bad thing. 

The most alarming third World shitholes that I’ve visited? All Muslim. 

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byke wrote:
It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more...

It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more that these regions are poor and barbaric and dumb and lazy, but the tool to manipulate people is arbitrary. It's just that Islam has been there for thousands of years, so that's the tool of choice. And the reason why it's important is to make that distinction is so that you're not fooled by people from barbaric regions just because they believe in a different religion. You should be wary just the same.  

Singapore? One of the strictest places on earth. Where you get punished for chewing gum. A little bit of vandalism, and public caning? Can only imagine a serious offense. By ANYONE.

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byke wrote:
It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more...

It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more that these regions are poor and barbaric and dumb and lazy, but the tool to manipulate people is arbitrary. It's just that Islam has been there for thousands of years, so that's the tool of choice. And the reason why it's important is to make that distinction is so that you're not fooled by people from barbaric regions just because they believe in a different religion. You should be wary just the same.  

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Singapore? One of the strictest places on earth. Where you get punished for chewing gum. A little bit of vandalism, and public caning? Can only imagine...

Singapore? One of the strictest places on earth. Where you get punished for chewing gum. A little bit of vandalism, and public caning? Can only imagine a serious offense. By ANYONE.

Please dont cloud this issue with insignificant facts and trivia. Dubai is another stellar example of human rights. You know, holding hands, or a peck on the cheek in public gets you six months or more of incarceration.

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12/14/2025 9:25am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2025 9:26am

Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts. Lotta people want the USA to be more strict.....

Side note, an old coworker went there on a work trip and showed up to the satellite office in shorts....that did not go well. 

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Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts...

Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts. Lotta people want the USA to be more strict.....

Side note, an old coworker went there on a work trip and showed up to the satellite office in shorts....that did not go well. 

Do you have one single independent opinion that you won’t flip-flop, jellyfish on? I’m unsure what your profession is currently, but you’d have a bright future as a democrat politician. 

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Please reference my post about who wins and who loses when the conversation turns ad-hom. 

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byke wrote:
It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more...

It's not exactly an Islam problem. Look at rich places like Singapore and Dubai and whatnot. Lots of Muslims and very low violent crime. It's more that these regions are poor and barbaric and dumb and lazy, but the tool to manipulate people is arbitrary. It's just that Islam has been there for thousands of years, so that's the tool of choice. And the reason why it's important is to make that distinction is so that you're not fooled by people from barbaric regions just because they believe in a different religion. You should be wary just the same.  

This is of course total bullshit. They've exported the terrorism to the rest of the world, including very rich locations. The reason these model Islamic countries don't suffer from Islamic terrorists is because they're Islamic countries that tacitly or openly support the terrorism. The fact that these places aren't being attacked is the entire point............  the terrorists aren't attacking those who share their religion....... how you can look at that and conclude that the religion isn't the issue is bonkers. 

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It's easy, because I don't blame America's problems on Christians, even though the vast majority of the country identifies as Christian. Religion is just a medium for people to express what's already inside of them. Rocks don't throw themselves, guns don't fly around killing people, and the only thing keeping me from flying a plane into a building....isn't a book. 

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Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts...

Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts. Lotta people want the USA to be more strict.....

Side note, an old coworker went there on a work trip and showed up to the satellite office in shorts....that did not go well. 

That should be the stellar example of people coming to a country and not knowing and adhering to the country's laws and culture. If people would assimilate to the laws and culture, we'd have a lot less of what's going on right now with these violent murders.

TM

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Podcast from YESTERDAY warning about this. When do people wake up and stop deflecting, ignoring, justifying, etc?

https://rumble.com/v72xywa-australias-immigration-has-taken-a-dark-turn…

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Erin Molan about her move from mainstream Australian media to independent political commentary; how speaking openly about Israel after October 7 unexpectedly became controversial; how Australia’s immigration policies are destroying the fabric of the country and its values; how Australia’s climate and energy policies are harming its citizens; the financial pressures pushing media toward sensationalism and stresses integrity in journalism: and much more.

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byke wrote:
Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts...

Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts. Lotta people want the USA to be more strict.....

Side note, an old coworker went there on a work trip and showed up to the satellite office in shorts....that did not go well. 

ToolMaker wrote:
That should be the stellar example of people coming to a country and not knowing and adhering to the country's laws and culture. If people would...

That should be the stellar example of people coming to a country and not knowing and adhering to the country's laws and culture. If people would assimilate to the laws and culture, we'd have a lot less of what's going on right now with these violent murders.

TM

100%. Someone (zyck?) posted a legit link showing Somali's in Minnesota making basically zero improvements on integrating after more than ten years. Unacceptable. 

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byke wrote:
It's easy, because I don't blame America's problems on Christians, even though the vast majority of the country identifies as Christian. Religion is just a medium...

It's easy, because I don't blame America's problems on Christians, even though the vast majority of the country identifies as Christian. Religion is just a medium for people to express what's already inside of them. Rocks don't throw themselves, guns don't fly around killing people, and the only thing keeping me from flying a plane into a building....isn't a book. 

Identifying as Christian does not equal yelling PRAISE JESUS before opening fire. 

Identifying as Christian does not equal stating clearly that you're committing the crime because you think it's your religious duty and ticket to heaven. 

All I've ever asked is for everyone to take these terrorists at their own word, but you woke morons have so much respect for them that you refuse to do it and instead explain away their actions with your own logic instead of theirs that actually got them there. 

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Don't America's problems extend beyond mass murder? 

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byke wrote:

Don't America's problems extend beyond mass murder? 

Wrong thread.

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I’ve been to Singapore a couple of times.  While it could be labeled a benevolent dictatorship, there’s little detectable difference in everyday life. Even those who crave a two-party system agree that it’s not worth rocking the boat. 

And if you ever have a chance to visit Singapore, do it.  The laws can be strict but not noteworthy if you act like a rational human. And go with someone who knows the lay of the land because the urban density can be overwhelming.  

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12/14/2025 10:29am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2025 10:34am
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Name a country, too many. 

Europe is lost. 

LoudLove wrote:
Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western...

Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western Europe overall is <2. 

If “lost” = mass murder in religious gatherings, the US likely stands on the top of the podium as well. Just curious what metrics we’re using. 

How many “Christmas Drive-thrus”…?

How many Muslim-Islamist-whackos have gone off on other Euros in the last decade…or 2…?

How many bombs have gone off? (They make the IRA look like amateurs)

911 ring a fucking bell?

October 7th?

The Barracks in Beirut? 

Hamas

Hezbollah

The Houthis

How hard did you…do you… have to mentally reach to get to the point where you don’t have the ability to recognize that some religious sects have a doctrine of annihilating the infidels?

Mental Gymnastics is all I’m seeing here. 

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byke wrote:
Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts...

Yeah Singapore is not for me, waaaaaay too strict, but the violent crime is low....lower than in the USA if we want to talk about facts. Lotta people want the USA to be more strict.....

Side note, an old coworker went there on a work trip and showed up to the satellite office in shorts....that did not go well. 

ToolMaker wrote:
That should be the stellar example of people coming to a country and not knowing and adhering to the country's laws and culture. If people would...

That should be the stellar example of people coming to a country and not knowing and adhering to the country's laws and culture. If people would assimilate to the laws and culture, we'd have a lot less of what's going on right now with these violent murders.

TM

byke wrote:

100%. Someone (zyck?) posted a legit link showing Somali's in Minnesota making basically zero improvements on integrating after more than ten years. Unacceptable. 

They never, ever will.   The twin cities have regressed since the 90's, early 2000's.

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Wow. Just imagine if these citizens who are holding a phone to record the shooters were able to carry a gun themselves. Looking at these 2 videos the gunmen were pretty open targets and could have been taken out sooner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRv_HWwHHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzi7r__nbJM

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Europe is lost. 

LoudLove wrote:
Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western...

Define lost?  No region in Europe has a homicide rate greater than 5 per 100K. The US has 30 states that exceed that number. And western Europe overall is <2. 

If “lost” = mass murder in religious gatherings, the US likely stands on the top of the podium as well. Just curious what metrics we’re using. 

TeamGreen wrote:
How many “Christmas Drive-thrus”…?How many Muslim-Islamist-whackos have gone off on other Euros in the last decade…or 2…?How many bombs have gone off? (They make the IRA...

How many “Christmas Drive-thrus”…?

How many Muslim-Islamist-whackos have gone off on other Euros in the last decade…or 2…?

How many bombs have gone off? (They make the IRA look like amateurs)

911 ring a fucking bell?

October 7th?

The Barracks in Beirut? 

Hamas

Hezbollah

The Houthis

How hard did you…do you… have to mentally reach to get to the point where you don’t have the ability to recognize that some religious sects have a doctrine of annihilating the infidels?

Mental Gymnastics is all I’m seeing here. 

I simply asked what “lost” meant. I’m concerned less about Islamic terrorists than domestic homicides. Because the numbers bear it out.  Raging against events like Bondi Beach gets us no closer to creating a more secure homeland. Because the main threat is us. 

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12/14/2025 11:58am

Weren't they chanting "gas the Jews" just a couple months ago in front of that auditorium? How can politicians be so stupid?

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12/14/2025 12:07pm

Death toll has risen to 16.

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This is what happens when woke globalism runs amuck.

Immigration to another country requires assimilation and adoption of that country’s morals and social values.  If you can’t do that, stay home and do your thing 

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