latest pulpmx show... American ignorance..

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 1:32pm
On the World Championship is highly entertaining.. ha ha ha...good show...

Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd...lol
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11/16/2010 6:33am
Zach tried to educate 'em!
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Zach tried to educate 'em!
yes... it was the funniest pulp mx show i have listened to lol
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11/16/2010 6:36am
mccread wrote:
On the World Championship is highly entertaining.. ha ha ha...good show...

Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd...lol
Whos Everts? Sounds like someone from a fairytale...
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11/16/2010 6:36am
mccread wrote:
On the World Championship is highly entertaining.. ha ha ha...good show...

Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd...lol
Even though it is the so called World Championships it is a second rate series to most of us. I would have thought you knew that most Americans view it that way.

Not that it is second rate but that is the perception for many.

You know we kind of live in our own glass house over here ( LOL)

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11/16/2010 6:41am
mccread wrote:
On the World Championship is highly entertaining.. ha ha ha...good show...

Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd...lol
McCread I didn't listen to last nights show yet so I can't comment on that but in general , until recently , most Americans didn't pay attention to the GP's. Until recently if we wanted to keep up with the GP's we had to make a big effort to do so. There wasn't much coverage of the races at all. Now of course that's different. Every race is carried live online and if we miss that there's replays every week. Not to mention boards like vital. None of that existed even as recently as 6 years ago. The only reason I was able to keep up is because I've been following the GP's since I was old enough to walk so I knew where to look,
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11/16/2010 6:43am
Good to see Zach and Michael try to defend Europe. Although what's up with France guys come on we are not that bad!

It was pretty funny. Weimer was good and it seemed like Zaxh was owning the place by the end lol. Good idea to have him do Euro corner next year and explain to you guys what's going on and some of the travel through Europe stories.
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11/16/2010 6:54am
I hate to have to agree with Mccread sometimes, but...

"Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd."

you are spot on. I just figured that was common knowledge to any real mx fan.
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11/16/2010 7:04am
Mt Everts? What are you guys talking about? 10 time world champion? Ricky Carmichael is the world champion of the world duh.
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Who's Everts?Wink
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McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US press and Musquin and Roczen racing here more fans might follow along........ In the mean time try to play nice.... lol.
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DL wrote:
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US...
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US press and Musquin and Roczen racing here more fans might follow along........ In the mean time try to play nice.... lol.
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

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Creds need to be given to Matthes who has gone from knowing nothing, to knowing a fair bit! It was a good show last night too!
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11/16/2010 7:41am
Funny I just finished watching MOTO 2. It was very interesting to hear both Musquin and Roczan talk about how it is their "dream" to race in the USA....Wonder why the young GP riders are growing up dreaming of racing in the USA?
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Funny I just finished watching MOTO 2. It was very interesting to hear both Musquin and Roczan talk about how it is their "dream" to race...
Funny I just finished watching MOTO 2. It was very interesting to hear both Musquin and Roczan talk about how it is their "dream" to race in the USA....Wonder why the young GP riders are growing up dreaming of racing in the USA?
They heard the shopping is amazing and American chicks go gaga over accents.
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DL wrote:
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US...
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US press and Musquin and Roczen racing here more fans might follow along........ In the mean time try to play nice.... lol.
mccread wrote:
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as...
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
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11/16/2010 8:13am
Loved the show! Matthes keep this up! Just a suggestion but how about few shows like this through the gp season with Zach and Michael so Watson and the rest of america can keep track of there progress and the gp's.

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DL wrote:
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US...
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US press and Musquin and Roczen racing here more fans might follow along........ In the mean time try to play nice.... lol.
mccread wrote:
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as...
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders would be more successful in GPs. There has been more coverage in the last few years though with the internet and in Racer X and Mathes etc.. but still not the same level as the Nationals etc.

Hope the Husky thing works out, i think they will be pretty good bikes next year, MX2 should be great racing.

11/16/2010 9:05am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2010 9:27am
mccread wrote:
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as...
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
mccread wrote:
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders...
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders would be more successful in GPs. There has been more coverage in the last few years though with the internet and in Racer X and Mathes etc.. but still not the same level as the Nationals etc.

Hope the Husky thing works out, i think they will be pretty good bikes next year, MX2 should be great racing.

do NOT read into this that I am a typical 'Merica is the greatest wooohooo wheres my beer kind of guy... but a little correction needs to be made.


locational differences aside...

We dont follow religiously, and our press doesnt extensively follow, the GP's for 1 major reason, and it is a reason felt and supported by alot of your own gp champions..... the premier racing, on this planet, happens inside these borders. Dont shoot the messenger, and please, im not trying to start another us vs them whos better thread. Both series have some absolutely brilliant riders. here is the crux of the "problem" you are commenting about..

For the last 20-25 years, the view from the riders point of view, if you are a US Nats rider, you view yourself as being in the toughest series on the planet against literally the best the planet has to offer. if you are a rider in the GP's, you view yourself as being in a tough series, but your dream is to get the championship, then come to the usa and compete against the best.

Answer this, why would guys like JMB, Roncada, Pichon, DV, Tortelli, Albertyn, Rattray, Langston, Musqin, Roczen, Metcalfe, Reed, Townley... the list goes on. Why would guys, making bank in the GP's, winning GP championships, give it all up and to come here? Forgoe millions, and championships, leave it all behind, and come here. Why? Their own words, "I want to prove myself in the USA" . Now if things were all equal, why would the riders themselves in the GP's feel they need to prove themselves? You hear this ALOT.

On the other side of the coin, why dont our champions leave behind millions and championships to goto the Gp's? Because to them, its not viewed as the premier place.

I appoligise, i know thats insulting to a GP faithful. Just stating what happens.
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ocscottie wrote:
I hate to have to agree with Mccread sometimes, but... "Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd." you are spot on...
I hate to have to agree with Mccread sometimes, but...

"Not knowing Everts is a 10 time world champ is pretty absurd."

you are spot on. I just figured that was common knowledge to any real mx fan.
agreed but US pro' MXers are not educated on the sports history like collegiate sports of baseball, basketball, ...................
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11/16/2010 9:24am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2010 9:43am
DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
mccread wrote:
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders...
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders would be more successful in GPs. There has been more coverage in the last few years though with the internet and in Racer X and Mathes etc.. but still not the same level as the Nationals etc.

Hope the Husky thing works out, i think they will be pretty good bikes next year, MX2 should be great racing.

do NOT read into this that I am a typical 'Merica is the greatest wooohooo wheres my beer kind of guy... but a little correction needs...
do NOT read into this that I am a typical 'Merica is the greatest wooohooo wheres my beer kind of guy... but a little correction needs to be made.


locational differences aside...

We dont follow religiously, and our press doesnt extensively follow, the GP's for 1 major reason, and it is a reason felt and supported by alot of your own gp champions..... the premier racing, on this planet, happens inside these borders. Dont shoot the messenger, and please, im not trying to start another us vs them whos better thread. Both series have some absolutely brilliant riders. here is the crux of the "problem" you are commenting about..

For the last 20-25 years, the view from the riders point of view, if you are a US Nats rider, you view yourself as being in the toughest series on the planet against literally the best the planet has to offer. if you are a rider in the GP's, you view yourself as being in a tough series, but your dream is to get the championship, then come to the usa and compete against the best.

Answer this, why would guys like JMB, Roncada, Pichon, DV, Tortelli, Albertyn, Rattray, Langston, Musqin, Roczen, Metcalfe, Reed, Townley... the list goes on. Why would guys, making bank in the GP's, winning GP championships, give it all up and to come here? Forgoe millions, and championships, leave it all behind, and come here. Why? Their own words, "I want to prove myself in the USA" . Now if things were all equal, why would the riders themselves in the GP's feel they need to prove themselves? You hear this ALOT.

On the other side of the coin, why dont our champions leave behind millions and championships to goto the Gp's? Because to them, its not viewed as the premier place.

I appoligise, i know thats insulting to a GP faithful. Just stating what happens.
'Now if things were all equal, why would the riders themselves in the GP's feel they need to prove themselves? You hear this ALOT.'



Because until they come to America most of you guys dismiss them as inferior; Pourcel & Roczen being two prime examples. Thats why Everts is still viewed as 'inferior' because he didn't 'sack up' and come over to race a whole series in the states. There are many reasons why European riders head to America but its partly because they want to prove themselves to the doubters and achieve true world wide status.




edit: I've always favoured RC over Everts but I have absolutely no doubt that had Everts raced in America for the last 3-4 years of his career he would be viewed in a completely different light by most Americans (the non-bigoted ones anyway). He may not have won titles from RC, but he would have definitely won races at least and Americans would have seen first hand just how good he could be. As it stands average American riders are household names in Europe, but a 10 time world champion is a virtual nobody in the States and European kids recognise this when they're growing up.
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11/16/2010 9:37am
DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
mccread wrote:
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders...
yep you hit the nail on the head... if the American media cover the World Championship more, more American fans will follow it...and the US riders would be more successful in GPs. There has been more coverage in the last few years though with the internet and in Racer X and Mathes etc.. but still not the same level as the Nationals etc.

Hope the Husky thing works out, i think they will be pretty good bikes next year, MX2 should be great racing.

do NOT read into this that I am a typical 'Merica is the greatest wooohooo wheres my beer kind of guy... but a little correction needs...
do NOT read into this that I am a typical 'Merica is the greatest wooohooo wheres my beer kind of guy... but a little correction needs to be made.


locational differences aside...

We dont follow religiously, and our press doesnt extensively follow, the GP's for 1 major reason, and it is a reason felt and supported by alot of your own gp champions..... the premier racing, on this planet, happens inside these borders. Dont shoot the messenger, and please, im not trying to start another us vs them whos better thread. Both series have some absolutely brilliant riders. here is the crux of the "problem" you are commenting about..

For the last 20-25 years, the view from the riders point of view, if you are a US Nats rider, you view yourself as being in the toughest series on the planet against literally the best the planet has to offer. if you are a rider in the GP's, you view yourself as being in a tough series, but your dream is to get the championship, then come to the usa and compete against the best.

Answer this, why would guys like JMB, Roncada, Pichon, DV, Tortelli, Albertyn, Rattray, Langston, Musqin, Roczen, Metcalfe, Reed, Townley... the list goes on. Why would guys, making bank in the GP's, winning GP championships, give it all up and to come here? Forgoe millions, and championships, leave it all behind, and come here. Why? Their own words, "I want to prove myself in the USA" . Now if things were all equal, why would the riders themselves in the GP's feel they need to prove themselves? You hear this ALOT.

On the other side of the coin, why dont our champions leave behind millions and championships to goto the Gp's? Because to them, its not viewed as the premier place.

I appoligise, i know thats insulting to a GP faithful. Just stating what happens.
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11/16/2010 9:45am
DL wrote:
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US...
McCread, it's true that most americans don't follow GP's. You knew this to be true before last night. Hopefully with Zach and Michael getting more US press and Musquin and Roczen racing here more fans might follow along........ In the mean time try to play nice.... lol.
mccread wrote:
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as...
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
Kenny just seems like an obnoxious twat.
11/16/2010 10:06am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2010 10:08am
mccread wrote:
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as...
I know Americans don't follow GPs - that's why it's so funny (and also odd that they don't follow the World Motocross Championship as well as their national series).... Kenny Watson plays the stereotypical American very well... tell Michael Europe isn't a country lol

Funniest show so far...:D

DL wrote:
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm...
Oh yeah he is embarassed..... His Mom and I nearly fell over when we heard that.... we've been having some fun with him. Can't say I'm a Kenny Watson fan and frankly the whole Hart and Hunnington circus in the pits deal has been somewhat of a black eye to the sport the past few years imo. My guess is that having Dodge involved they'll be more corporate. That being said it's cool that Steve has taken Zach under his wing.....he is on top of it pretty good IMHO. Let's just hope the rest of the dirtcycle media does the same!
jamma10 wrote:
Kenny just seems like an obnoxious twat.
Jamma I have to agree with you. I've known Kenny since growing up in Simi Valley and hanging out w/Kyle Lewis as a kid and to tell you the truth I actually loved Kenny being on the show in the beginning. As of late though he has turned into a obnoxious dickhead. I know you're reading this to Kenny. He's for sure another closet Vital MX reader. I don't know when it happened but all of a sudden Kenny's head has gotten way to big. Which is bad because his head is already Fred Flinstone size to begin with. The way Kenny talks to guest and callers alike is out of line. He somehow thinks he's some kind of big deal. He needs either Matthes to put him in check or he needs to get the fck off the air IMHO. That 6 story tall horse he sits on has made him intolerable.
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11/16/2010 10:14am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2010 10:15am
American ignorance conflates the "best" riders with the "best" series.

My own ignorance causes me to use the word "conflate" improperly...
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i don't follow the GP's....... all the best talent from that series ends up over here, so why bother?...

when the top USA guys end up racing over there, then i'll start paying attention to the GP's....
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11/16/2010 11:02am
Yeah American ignorance! There's really no need to read this thread, just needed to get that out.
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11/16/2010 11:06am
Who's Everts?Wink
Ex pro tennis player Chris Everts ? LOL! Stefan IMO, one of the best 5 riders of all time .
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I hope Kenny was playing ignorant there...
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I reckon he was a bit.

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