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Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

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It's never been done. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

It's never been done. 

Damn i wouldn't have guessed that. 

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10/8/2025 7:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/9/2025 5:33am
mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

Several countries including the US many times has had two of the three riders the same as the previous year, but no country has ever fielded the same 3 or 4 riders back in the day as a winning country. 

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mxbmx 10/8/2025 8:47pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:

It's never been done. 

CPR wrote:

Damn i wouldn't have guessed that. 

Me neither. I didn't look into it but just assumed that one of the US teams would have done it during their dominant years. 

Amazing new stat for the Aussies!

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

It's never been done. 

CPR wrote:

Damn i wouldn't have guessed that. 

mxbmx wrote:
Me neither. I didn't look into it but just assumed that one of the US teams would have done it during their dominant years. Amazing new stat...

Me neither. I didn't look into it but just assumed that one of the US teams would have done it during their dominant years. 

Amazing new stat for the Aussies!

Not to mention all on the same OEM team!

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I got curious about this, so I went and looked at the list of US riders since the early 70s. Win or lose, we've never sent the same three guys more than once, even with injury replacements. That seems crazy to me.

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Jett and Hunter are also the first pair of brothers to win the event. 

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Sully wrote:
I got curious about this, so I went and looked at the list of US riders since the early 70s. Win or lose, we've never sent...

I got curious about this, so I went and looked at the list of US riders since the early 70s. Win or lose, we've never sent the same three guys more than once, even with injury replacements. That seems crazy to me.

That's wild. In consecutive years or just ever? 

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mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

Sweden did it in '61 and '62. 

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kevinconnor 10/9/2025 9:08am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Jett and Hunter are also the first pair of brothers to win the event. 

Not true. Derek and Don Rickman went 1, 2 in the 60s for Great Britain. 

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kevinconnor 10/9/2025 9:09am
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mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

Zoom wrote:
Several countries including the US many times has had two of the three riders the same as the previous year, but no country has ever fielded...

Several countries including the US many times has had two of the three riders the same as the previous year, but no country has ever fielded the same 3 or 4 riders back in the day as a winning country. 

Sweden did in 61 and 62

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mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

kevinconnor wrote:

Sweden did it in '61 and '62. 

1961: Ove Lundell, Bill Nilsson, Rolf Tibblin.

1962: Jan Johansson, Ove Lundell, Rolf Tibblin.

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kevinconnor 10/9/2025 10:20am
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kevinconnor wrote:

Sweden did it in '61 and '62. 

THE mx addict wrote:

No. Not the same three riders.

Lol. First,  bud, there were 4, not 3. And they were the same. 

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kevinconnor 10/9/2025 10:30am
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mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

kevinconnor wrote:

Sweden did it in '61 and '62. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

1961: Ove Lundell, Bill Nilsson, Rolf Tibblin.

1962: Jan Johansson, Ove Lundell, Rolf Tibblin.

Gunnar Johansson won the second moto in 61.  He finished 6th in the second moto in 62

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Netherlands was really close in 2018/2019. They should have won 2018, sadly due to the incident with Vlaandaren getting a stone to the eye they only had two riders on sunday and still got into 2nd place overall. Then they won 2019. Same lineup. 

Coldenhoff btw went 1-1-1-1 in 2018/2019.

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mxbmx wrote:
Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at...

Monday morning musings here without a lick of research and lack of coffee, but when was the last time a country went back to back at MXON with the exact same rider line up? Seems like most years countries are changing riders all the time. 

* I do realise there is a slight technicality as Jett was racing open class last year and mx1 this year. 

Zoom wrote:
Several countries including the US many times has had two of the three riders the same as the previous year, but no country has ever fielded...

Several countries including the US many times has had two of the three riders the same as the previous year, but no country has ever fielded the same 3 or 4 riders back in the day as a winning country. 

I think that there were years where Belgium had the same 3 riders but a different 4th rider, but that was back when the MXoN and the ToN were separate events though.  

I know that Belgium had at least one back-to-back same 4-person team winners in the Trophee event.  

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kevinconnor wrote:

Lol. First,  bud, there were 4, not 3. And they were the same. 

I will repeat what Maverick wrote:

1961: Lundell, Nilsson, Tibblin.

1962: Johansson, Lundell, Tibblin.

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kevinconnor wrote:

Gunnar Johansson won the second moto in 61.  He finished 6th in the second moto in 62

That's odd. How come he's not listed? 

Also, how come some years have 4 or 5 riders listed? I'm assuming back up riders were allowed to race if someone got hurt, but I don't know. I've only known the event as a 3 rider team format. 

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Looking at the Trophee event, GB did it once, Sweden had a 3-peat with the same riders, And Belgium had a couple of times with one being 2 years in a row and another being 3.  On the string with 3, they actually won with the same group of riders 4 out of 5 years.  

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kevinconnor wrote:

Gunnar Johansson won the second moto in 61.  He finished 6th in the second moto in 62

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That's odd. How come he's not listed? Also, how come some years have 4 or 5 riders listed? I'm assuming back up riders were allowed to race...

That's odd. How come he's not listed? 

Also, how come some years have 4 or 5 riders listed? I'm assuming back up riders were allowed to race if someone got hurt, but I don't know. I've only known the event as a 3 rider team format. 

It used to be 4 riders all on 500cc bikes for the MXdN.  There were 4 riders on 250s the weekend before for the Trophee des Nations.  That's why Magoo is known for winning all 4 motos in a single year.  

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THE mx addict 10/9/2025 10:51am
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APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that there were years where Belgium had the same 3 riders but a different 4th rider, but that was back when the MXoN and...

I think that there were years where Belgium had the same 3 riders but a different 4th rider, but that was back when the MXoN and the ToN were separate events though.  

I know that Belgium had at least one back-to-back same 4-person team winners in the Trophee event.  

You're right about Belgium in the "Trophée des Nations".

The same four riders won the event in 1974, 1975 and 1976 !

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Sully 10/9/2025 4:01pm
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Sully wrote:
I got curious about this, so I went and looked at the list of US riders since the early 70s. Win or lose, we've never sent...

I got curious about this, so I went and looked at the list of US riders since the early 70s. Win or lose, we've never sent the same three guys more than once, even with injury replacements. That seems crazy to me.

mxbmx wrote:

That's wild. In consecutive years or just ever? 

Ever from what I could tell. If Chase hadn't gotten hurt but Deegan still did, this year would have been the first time for the same three guys with Chase, Eli & JCoop.

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