MXGP Rumours/Silly season

philG wrote:

Jago is the European version of Austin Forkner, he had  5 goes at MX2 on the best bike in the best team , and never got...

Jago is the European version of Austin Forkner, he had  5 goes at MX2 on the best bike in the best team , and never got a championship, and while you wouldnt have expected him to win in year 1 and 2 , he was fast enough, but just couldnt stay off the ground, when he needed to. 

Nothing he has done on the 450 has shown me he has changed. 

 

Great rider  , just had some tough opposition, and didnt get the job done when he had the chance. 

 

kevinconnor wrote:

Probably not the best bike. Definitely not the best team. 

philG wrote:

Jago is the European version of Austin Forkner, he had  5 goes at MX2 on the best bike in the best team , and never got...

Jago is the European version of Austin Forkner, he had  5 goes at MX2 on the best bike in the best team , and never got a championship, and while you wouldnt have expected him to win in year 1 and 2 , he was fast enough, but just couldnt stay off the ground, when he needed to. 

Nothing he has done on the 450 has shown me he has changed. 

 

Great rider  , just had some tough opposition, and didnt get the job done when he had the chance. 

 

kevinconnor wrote:

Probably not the best bike. Definitely not the best team. 

ohh_454 wrote:

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar...

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar with the KTMs back then. Maybe they stopped leasing them from Star in his last year on a 250, but he has good bikes. 

THE mx addict wrote:

What the f... are you talking about???

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JBone19 wrote:

Wait and see..😅

Renner153 wrote:

Doubt it

JBone19 wrote:

Wait and see..😅

Renner153 wrote:

Doubt it

THE mx addict wrote:

Extremely doubtful, yes.

kevinconnor wrote:

Probably not the best bike. Definitely not the best team. 

ohh_454 wrote:

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar...

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar with the KTMs back then. Maybe they stopped leasing them from Star in his last year on a 250, but he has good bikes. 

Money wrote:

This is true. His team was leading motors from star in 2020/2021. 

Elliot wrote:

Camden McLellan has extended his Triumph contract for another two years in MX2.

ohh_454 wrote:

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar...

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar with the KTMs back then. Maybe they stopped leasing them from Star in his last year on a 250, but he has good bikes. 

Money wrote:

This is true. His team was leading motors from star in 2020/2021. 

MXMattii wrote:

The masks will drop, when Tiga243 will struggle and become annoyed next year.

Elliot wrote:

Camden McLellan has extended his Triumph contract for another two years in MX2.

Motofinne wrote:

I was surprised when i saw that new and that he is only 21 years old. I thought he would age out this year or at...

I was surprised when i saw that new and that he is only 21 years old. I thought he would age out this year or at lates in 2026. He has been impressive, i would not be surprised if he finishes top-3 overall the coming two years.

ohh_454 wrote:

Wilvo ran a better Yamaha 450 program then the guys who currently run it huh

ohh_454 wrote:

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar...

The team Jago was on were leasing Star racing engines for their 250s at the time I believe so I’m sure those Yamahas were on bar with the KTMs back then. Maybe they stopped leasing them from Star in his last year on a 250, but he has good bikes. 

Money wrote:

This is true. His team was leading motors from star in 2020/2021. 

MXMattii wrote:

The masks will drop, when Tiga243 will struggle and become annoyed next year.

Money wrote:

This is true. His team was leading motors from star in 2020/2021. 

MXMattii wrote:

The masks will drop, when Tiga243 will struggle and become annoyed next year.

JBone19 wrote:

Curious what they promised to 243, he isn’t blind right? 243 should be aware of the yamaha squad status at the moment. 

MXMattii wrote:

The masks will drop, when Tiga243 will struggle and become annoyed next year.

JBone19 wrote:

Curious what they promised to 243, he isn’t blind right? 243 should be aware of the yamaha squad status at the moment. 

MXMattii wrote:

TiGa signed his last contract just behind the Covid-Boom, a lot of brands got exceptional sales because countries like; USA, Australia, ... sold allot of bikes...

TiGa signed his last contract just behind the Covid-Boom, a lot of brands got exceptional sales because countries like; USA, Australia, ... sold allot of bikes during the pandemic because it was an outdoorsport that was allowed. From dual-sport bikes to pit-bikes the sales where great, and all those new people coming in our sport also needed a helmet, clothes... Lots of sales means more money to give to riders who are worth it: Tim Gajser is one of them who are worth it and from what I heard he got 2 to 2.5 million (dunno if his FOX deal is included).

But those new people who came into our sport during COVID aren't buying every year a new bike, helmet, clothes, ... (something KTM also misinterpreted a bit). But Gajser came into this years negotiations, little bit with his dick swinging but that is hearsay, with a number around 3 to 3.5 million in his head. HRC and Gariboldi laughed and said: No. Counteroffer would've been something alike from what he makes now, what was a generous gesture from both HRC and Gariboldi to Gajser. But he also said No and the relationship became sour. 

Sadly enough for Gajser there aren't a lot of teams that can pay or want to pay that amount. Kawasaki has Febvre and most other teams just don't have that financial power. Little birds told me that he tested the Ducati, because former Wilvo owner Louis Voster can pay together with Ducati that kind of contracts. The surprising second was Yamaha who had till now mostly their 750k ceiling, what they stretched a bit for Maxime Reneaux who seemingly is earning 1 million. But don't let you fool you, Yamaha isn't paying 3 million or anything near that, Tim Gajser is going to make about the same as he did on the HRC Bike and will be riding a less superior bike in a team that feels a bit like its ran by "a bunch of good old' friends" or by "a bunch of amateurs". At least not a team with the same winning mentality. If you've seen the celebration picture from team owner Hans Covers because Vlaanderen got third in the Swedish GP, you need to ask yourself "do they know that they are the bloody official factory team?" and "Did they saw that JK Yamaha?"

DeStouwer wrote:

Who will sign for the Triumph MXGP team? They'll expand their team from MX2 starting next season.

DeStouwer wrote:

Who will sign for the Triumph MXGP team? They'll expand their team from MX2 starting next season.

mx1234 wrote:

https://www.5secondi.net/post/mercato-mxgp-rumors-mondiale-motocross-2026

 

rumors that they will not participate in 2026

JBone19 wrote:

Curious what they promised to 243, he isn’t blind right? 243 should be aware of the yamaha squad status at the moment. 

MXMattii wrote:

TiGa signed his last contract just behind the Covid-Boom, a lot of brands got exceptional sales because countries like; USA, Australia, ... sold allot of bikes...

TiGa signed his last contract just behind the Covid-Boom, a lot of brands got exceptional sales because countries like; USA, Australia, ... sold allot of bikes during the pandemic because it was an outdoorsport that was allowed. From dual-sport bikes to pit-bikes the sales where great, and all those new people coming in our sport also needed a helmet, clothes... Lots of sales means more money to give to riders who are worth it: Tim Gajser is one of them who are worth it and from what I heard he got 2 to 2.5 million (dunno if his FOX deal is included).

But those new people who came into our sport during COVID aren't buying every year a new bike, helmet, clothes, ... (something KTM also misinterpreted a bit). But Gajser came into this years negotiations, little bit with his dick swinging but that is hearsay, with a number around 3 to 3.5 million in his head. HRC and Gariboldi laughed and said: No. Counteroffer would've been something alike from what he makes now, what was a generous gesture from both HRC and Gariboldi to Gajser. But he also said No and the relationship became sour. 

Sadly enough for Gajser there aren't a lot of teams that can pay or want to pay that amount. Kawasaki has Febvre and most other teams just don't have that financial power. Little birds told me that he tested the Ducati, because former Wilvo owner Louis Voster can pay together with Ducati that kind of contracts. The surprising second was Yamaha who had till now mostly their 750k ceiling, what they stretched a bit for Maxime Reneaux who seemingly is earning 1 million. But don't let you fool you, Yamaha isn't paying 3 million or anything near that, Tim Gajser is going to make about the same as he did on the HRC Bike and will be riding a less superior bike in a team that feels a bit like its ran by "a bunch of good old' friends" or by "a bunch of amateurs". At least not a team with the same winning mentality. If you've seen the celebration picture from team owner Hans Covers because Vlaanderen got third in the Swedish GP, you need to ask yourself "do they know that they are the bloody official factory team?" and "Did they saw that JK Yamaha?"

Cortami79 wrote:

Thanks for the info Mattii, but even though I really respect your opinion I will disagree on a few points here. Gajser is the man this moment...

Thanks for the info Mattii, but even though I really respect your opinion I will disagree on a few points here. 

Gajser is the man this moment, so I can see why he was shopping for a deal higher then his current. He has won 5 World Championships (4 of them in the premier class, with one of them in his rookie season) against riders like Herlings, Febvre, Prado, Cairoli, Paulin, Desalle. He still is relatively young and in the prime of his career. Herlings and Febvre have 2, maybe 3, years to go and the only ones I see coming up challenging him straight up immediately are Coenen and de Wolf. 

Is Wilvo willing to pay a salary like that? I was told that once Herlings showed him what he was getting from KTM, negotiations stopped quickly. Not sure how accurate that source is though, or maybe he wasn't willing to pay a base salary for a rider that (if you look objectively) is injury prone as him. Gajser is a different story. 

The thing I disagree with is how you describe Hans Corvers here. Maybe you know more than me, but the amount of money that he is pouring into this series is quite crazy. And he does it for riders in EMX125 up to MXGP class. The emotions he showed during Geerts his mx2 campaign, and losing those titles in the final rounds, shows me a different character that is willing to win at all costs. Apart from his last interview in Lommel, he never publicly talks negative about his riders as well. What I mean to say is, this man isn't pouring these amounts of money into the sport to run a team like 'a bunch of amateurs' or doesn't care about winning. I think we should be grateful to have a guy like him in the sport. Just like I've told a few times on this forum about Vosters, Gariboldi, Hennekens (Nestaan), Mathys (Standing Construct) and lots of others.

 

D_L118 wrote:

I don’t have any inside information either. But i can’t agree more on the last part. Hans honestly seems like good guy to me. Corpellets is...

I don’t have any inside information either. But i can’t agree more on the last part. Hans honestly seems like good guy to me. Corpellets is everywhere and it doesn’t looks like a big company to me. For sure nothing compared to Wilvo. Is Louis Vosters retired? Or is he still involved in Wilvo? Seems like their are no Wilvo logo’s displayed on the fantic team?

DeStouwer wrote:

Who will sign for the Triumph MXGP team? They'll expand their team from MX2 starting next season.

DeStouwer wrote:

Who will sign for the Triumph MXGP team? They'll expand their team from MX2 starting next season.

THE mx addict wrote:

It would be fresh news to me! Until recently, Triumph said they wont run a factory effort in 450cc category for 2026 world championship season...

DeStouwer wrote:

Who will sign for the Triumph MXGP team? They'll expand their team from MX2 starting next season.

THE mx addict wrote:

It would be fresh news to me! Until recently, Triumph said they wont run a factory effort in 450cc category for 2026 world championship season...

tek14 wrote:

So Haarup needs to stay USA next year also?

THE mx addict wrote:

It seems Renaux will finally stay with Yamaha for 2026...

D_L118 wrote:

If you look at Seewer’s resumts on the Ducati. I wouldn’t make the switch either.

D_L118 wrote:

If you look at Seewer’s resumts on the Ducati. I wouldn’t make the switch either.

THE mx addict wrote:

It's more about contract obligations...

D_L118 wrote:

If you look at Seewer’s resumts on the Ducati. I wouldn’t make the switch either.

THE mx addict wrote:

It's more about contract obligations...

MXMattii wrote:

Impossible he's riding for one of the best teams in the paddock 🤭😶. If a rider wants out a 1 million/year deal, to race an unknown...

Impossible he's riding for one of the best teams in the paddock 🤭😶. If a rider wants out a 1 million/year deal, to race an unknown package. That speaks louder than my words.

63mark wrote:

So. I guess i am late to the party or something. But its official de Wolf is staying in Europe next year?

63mark wrote:

So. I guess i am late to the party or something. But its official de Wolf is staying in Europe next year?

THE mx addict wrote:

I've heard Nestaan Husky 450 for him next year.