Pardon me as I haven't read all the threads here in non-moto, but does this deserve its own conversation?
I'll nutshell it- Tulsi Gabbard just floated criminal charges against the Dem Party/Deep State cartel over what we all know happened. This has the potential for historic consequences that make Watergate look like child's play. She spelled it out very clearly in her press conference.
I worked the 2016 elections as a journalist in D.C. from day one of the first Trump Administration and it was clear to me the day after he won that the media and Dem Party operatives immediately went to the oldest trick in the book- The Red Scare. Is Trump suspect too, now and then? For sure. But if the world cannot now see that the Hillary/Obama machine that controlled the intelligence agencies was involved in high-level criminal conspiracy, people are in denial. Anybody still defending these idiots will be on the wrong side of history. The Deep State with the help of Dem Party structure conspired to hinder Trump, which is still going on as we speak. And maybe/probably tried to kill him too. Obama has many CIA connections starting with his mother and upbringing. Believe what you see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears.
Is it not obvious that the Bush/Clinton/Obama political machine (yes, they are all on the same team) went rogue when Trump won in 2016?
You're all fucking nuts, I swear.
Heh, you'd have to be nuts to consider the behavior of these administrations as normal. I'm a professional journalist of 25 years with deep experience in Washington D.C., walking the halls of power up close with these mf'ers and the media sycophants that have enabled and masked their criminal behavior. Unless you have something constructive to add, you should sit this one out. Keep on believing the fantasy corporate media and intelligence apparatus saying the actions of Dems since 2016 are lawful and normal.
Nobody wants to believe that the political figures they have spent decades listening to are nothing more than criminal mobsters. You don't think criminals would be attracted to the most significant levers of power ever created in human history? You want to believe that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and their ilk are good people with the best interests of Americans in mind. Go right ahead.
It seems that a good portion of people in politics are cheating, lying scumbags. Even if this and the Epstein stuff is true, it’s highly unlikely anything happens to any of the politicians involved.
Propaganda. Diversion. Division.
There was that bipartisan committee back then that had findings opposite to Gabbards rhetoric. That Rubio chaired BTW.
And other investigations.
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Pretty obvious that they're all up to their eyeballs in this.
Hell, there's even a CNN video of clapper telling anderson cooper that obama got the ball rolling on the whole thing.
Don't expect anyone to do a perp walk.
Legacy's will be destroyed, but really, haven't hillary, barry, bush, and the rest of their henchmen, already fallen from grace??, and inevitable hearings will have the usual questions, and non answers.
At least W is crafty enough to keep his, and his family's, corrupt ass out of the media spotlight. The others still consider themselves relevant.
This, and the biden mental decline, are both very damming.
But we've all known for literally decades that there's a power circle in DC, and representing the American people's interest, aren't on their agenda.
Insider trading.
Lobbyists buying legislation.
Foreign aid/money laundering.
NGO funding/money laundering.
Just a few of their, pocket lining, priorities.
Bagging on the rich capitalists is the real "deflection" thrown out for us to devour.
When it's the rich political class that's the real threat to our prosperity.
You could have a legitimate video of Obama actually conducting the meetings Tulsi is citing and the libtards would say it was fabricated and not true.
Theres one thing Ive learned, No fact or real evidence will ever sway the sheep.
It would be easier to teach a pig to tap dance, than wake a liberal from their trance.
When I found this thread this morning, my first thought was that a foreigner would be the first to respond and tell you how delusional you are.
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That’s hate speech.
Doesn’t that make you a criminal in your own land?
Pssssst…
What evidence did they have back then?
What pigeon-holed evidence was missing….what did Brennan (& Clapper…& Comey) OUTRIGHT lie to them about?
Why are some of you so willing to shrug it off?
Because he/she/they/them can't unbelieve what cnn/bbc/msnbc/lgbtqxyz has been telling them for ages.
Like was mentioned elsewhere, the cnn vid where they immediately cut Tulsi off, as soon as she began to reveal the contents of the documents, was very telling.
And they get real pissed when they’re reminded how they sound like Orwellian characters…
You're delusional, it's an attempt to distract from the Epstein files!
You just can’t help yourself, can you? 🤣
It was too good an opportunity!
Consider the source.
And his location.
Just one of the many clowns who are going to burn the word, distraction, into the ground.
I guess his hope is that we'll just stop everything, and sit stagnant as a nation, until they get another one of their, "THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN" moments.
How can the walls be closing in, it hasn't been built yet...
This is essentially Sean Hannity's radio show over the past decade. Until I see indictments and arrests, it's just theatre and a distraction. There's been so much crying wolf for years, we're all yawning here. It's funny to hear the Hussein middle name again, we all know why. So yea, ya'll eat up that red meat and let us know when there's legal action taken, cool?
Cool with me, but when it comes out don’t deny, distract, or say what about something else. I think I heard Tulsi say “ irrefutable evidence.”
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Thank you for your posting Moto Nomad! With your background in D.C., I certainly appreciate your perspective & insight! It’s always fascinating to me to hear from the people who have ACTUAL experience with something rather than “well I heard on CNN” people etc!
Frankly, now that you have posted your ACTUAL “been there/really saw & did that” experiences, I certainly hope that I don’t read of you getting “Suicided” in the next week or two! 🤪 👍❗️
In all seriousness, through my assignments over my 32+ year career, I had to work City Council meetings for the largest City/municipality in my state (City of Okc) and I first hand observed the corrupt government BS and the slimy characters that conducted that business…to the point that I told my wife, after what I have first hand observed, the ONLY difference between city hall criminals & shady back alley dope-slingers/pimps/robbers is those asshats wear more expensive clothes, smile right to your face and shake your hand while they commit their crimes right in the light of day under the guise of legitimate business. Honestly comparing dope-slingers/pimps/robbers to government officials is an insult to dope-slingers/pimps/robbers!
My experience was just at the city government level, I cannot even IMAGINE the stuff you’d learn of in D.C.!
You came to that conclusion all the way from Great Britain? You guys must be really smart over there.
I'd much rather see a deep dive into how the Obama admin & Congress steamrolled and completely fucked up the health insurance industry for the middle class
If it is irrefutable, make with the charges and present it in court. Why the theatrics?
Exactly. And if found guilty hang'em with an old rope.
It’s the theater of all this that makes me hesitant. One would think that if a case was truly being constructed to show criminal activity, they would be quietly building that to make sure it was solid and sure to land a conviction.
With the backdrop of the Epstein files, and the way this is all being presented, it does seem possible it is all a distraction.
That said. Just like the Epstein files, we need to have full transparency and prosecution for anyone who broke the law.
All of these revelations and no jail time for anyone just seems like all of these politicians and bureaucrats all have information on each other, so no justice is ever going to come. In other words, it’s a big elite club and we ain’t in it.
It seems a little bit fishy that a journalist wouldn’t know how to spell ‘revelations’…….!
So now presidential immunity isn't a thing? Hard to keep up with the cult's rules.
Both sides of the aisle are Cults, if you don't see that then you're part of the problem.
I’d argue the side that said, “If you loved Biden so much you’d have more signs up supporting him”, as they went around making Trump stores, wearing MAGA hats, and wrapping their trucks in Trump shit is a good indication of which one is more of a cult.
Yes, I pay twice as much....for half the coverage after the Obamama care fiasco.
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