Why America wins

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Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
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Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
Blah blah blah. Dude, nobody cares!!!! The exhibition race is over. Time to move on kid!!!!
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10/2/2010 8:53am
I know we won im glad we did, i dont debate that.
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Until an American rider forsakes the comforts of home, like Pomeroy, lackey, LaPorte, Schmidt, Moore or T Parker and competes in the World Championship GP series & wins either MX1 or MX2 championships all this "we are the greatest" based off 3 moto's at the MXoN is just a lot of hot air!
I bet the budget spent by Team USA, even in their homeland event, would be more than the total of 10 lesser countries.
Thunder valley MXoN showed the gap between AMA and GP riders is closing every year.
If Roczen had 2 stronger team mates to back him up, perhaps Germany would have won the whole shooting match!
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robkinuk wrote:
Until an American rider forsakes the comforts of home, like Pomeroy, lackey, LaPorte, Schmidt, Moore or T Parker and competes in the World Championship GP series...
Until an American rider forsakes the comforts of home, like Pomeroy, lackey, LaPorte, Schmidt, Moore or T Parker and competes in the World Championship GP series & wins either MX1 or MX2 championships all this "we are the greatest" based off 3 moto's at the MXoN is just a lot of hot air!
I bet the budget spent by Team USA, even in their homeland event, would be more than the total of 10 lesser countries.
Thunder valley MXoN showed the gap between AMA and GP riders is closing every year.
If Roczen had 2 stronger team mates to back him up, perhaps Germany would have won the whole shooting match!
As long as you mention SCHMIDT, this post is valid. RIP

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10/2/2010 10:34am
Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
"We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports "

Yes that's it,very witty logic you have there...

American motor-sports has made a deal with the master of the universe.

The deal is, we lose at all other motor sports, therefore we become MXoN Champions!

Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.

WOW!
I bet you have a PhD in "What if's" with kinda creative out of the box thinking.

Sometimes the intelligence on this board amazes me. Wink













10/2/2010 10:51am
Belgium would win if they had a great team manager from their country like we do.........
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Halfast816 wrote:
Belgium would win if they had a great team manager from their country like we do.........
Belgiums manger is not to shabby himself.
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10/2/2010 11:49am
Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but who gives a shit? We don't care to play 'em. Please stop with the "other countries are way smaller" argument. It's run it's course. Canada is an Ice Hockey juggernaut and there are only 34 million people living there as opposed to the 310 million people living in the U.S. Cuba has a population of 11 million people and their baseball program is one of the world's best. They have beaten teams from countries who dwarf them in population so what's your point? China has a population of 1.3 billion people yet they are nowhere near close to being considered a motocross powerhouse. Based on your argument they should dominate. They have a population more than four times the size of ours yet at the 2004 Summer Olympics we out-medaled them 102 to 63 and in 2008 we out-medaled them 110 to 100. Explain that? Sheesh, if you're gonna get pissy about a little national pride then maybe you should see about starting a site called VitalF1.com
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10/2/2010 12:00pm
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
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10/2/2010 12:38pm
USA wins because at the end of the day we have the least amount of points.

That solves that issue.Unsure
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10/2/2010 12:44pm
Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
BKoonts wrote:
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but...
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but who gives a shit? We don't care to play 'em. Please stop with the "other countries are way smaller" argument. It's run it's course. Canada is an Ice Hockey juggernaut and there are only 34 million people living there as opposed to the 310 million people living in the U.S. Cuba has a population of 11 million people and their baseball program is one of the world's best. They have beaten teams from countries who dwarf them in population so what's your point? China has a population of 1.3 billion people yet they are nowhere near close to being considered a motocross powerhouse. Based on your argument they should dominate. They have a population more than four times the size of ours yet at the 2004 Summer Olympics we out-medaled them 102 to 63 and in 2008 we out-medaled them 110 to 100. Explain that? Sheesh, if you're gonna get pissy about a little national pride then maybe you should see about starting a site called VitalF1.com
hmmm not badSmile
10/2/2010 12:46pm
Usa won because they had the best team, period.

And Belgium's team manager has more heart and talent than 99,9% of the people that post here.
Just sayin'.
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10/2/2010 12:55pm
Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
BKoonts wrote:
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but...
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but who gives a shit? We don't care to play 'em. Please stop with the "other countries are way smaller" argument. It's run it's course. Canada is an Ice Hockey juggernaut and there are only 34 million people living there as opposed to the 310 million people living in the U.S. Cuba has a population of 11 million people and their baseball program is one of the world's best. They have beaten teams from countries who dwarf them in population so what's your point? China has a population of 1.3 billion people yet they are nowhere near close to being considered a motocross powerhouse. Based on your argument they should dominate. They have a population more than four times the size of ours yet at the 2004 Summer Olympics we out-medaled them 102 to 63 and in 2008 we out-medaled them 110 to 100. Explain that? Sheesh, if you're gonna get pissy about a little national pride then maybe you should see about starting a site called VitalF1.com
I Brought up Beligum, im not talking about the population of any of the countries. And we won more medals cause we have more african athletes than china. DUH
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Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
I really want to take your post as an attempt at humor.
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10/2/2010 9:40pm
Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
BKoonts wrote:
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but...
I'm not sure who cares what else we suck at. This is a motocross board. I'm sure we're probably bad at cricket, rugby, and soccer but who gives a shit? We don't care to play 'em. Please stop with the "other countries are way smaller" argument. It's run it's course. Canada is an Ice Hockey juggernaut and there are only 34 million people living there as opposed to the 310 million people living in the U.S. Cuba has a population of 11 million people and their baseball program is one of the world's best. They have beaten teams from countries who dwarf them in population so what's your point? China has a population of 1.3 billion people yet they are nowhere near close to being considered a motocross powerhouse. Based on your argument they should dominate. They have a population more than four times the size of ours yet at the 2004 Summer Olympics we out-medaled them 102 to 63 and in 2008 we out-medaled them 110 to 100. Explain that? Sheesh, if you're gonna get pissy about a little national pride then maybe you should see about starting a site called VitalF1.com
We should make this a sticky. Seems some of these excuse makers, though they may speak 2 or more languages,just can't seem to get it.Wink
10/2/2010 9:47pm
Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
Good one. You almost had me there.
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Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
Antipodean wrote:
Good one. You almost had me there.
Yeah... cuz Australia is so much better right? I must have forgotten that you guys have one of the best militaries in the world... And that you guys have 21 MXoN gold medals... i could continue, but dont want to hurt any Aussies feelings. Seems like you guys get butthurt easily...
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Prince1 Said: "What if Belgium was twice the size as they are now?"

That's a easy answer - their would be twice as many Roger DeCoster's, Stefan Evert's and Joel Smets.

Ha ha.
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10/3/2010 2:35am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2010 4:08am
Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
Jabjr222 wrote:
I really want to take your post as an attempt at humor.
X 2,No doubt that you are proud of your country,which I applaud but that's not exacty the best way to come across is it?It's the kind of talk that can give people from elsewhere an opinion that most of you don't deserve,don't you mean It's you push other countries around,mainly for oil as It's what underpins Americas whole status and economy,very cheap cost of living etc,but greatest? How do you define greatest? Greatest gun crime,greatest drug problems,greatest nation of obesity,continued racism in places,nowhere is perfect,don't be so narrowed minded,Travel the world and open your eyes,sadly most don't venture out as they feel its all great right where they are,but being fed a whole load of propaganda is to blame,how much on your news is about Europe,Asia,Africa etc? Your existence in Iraq is condoned through t,he media which is one sided .You have a great asset in Barrack Obama,his healthcare plan,like our NHS system would help a lot of people,its hard to think that even with all the wealth of the US,you have so much poverty,Bush has been your downfall.I visit every year to see family and freinds,I like America,I like most Americans and I've always been made to feel very welcome, but I am certainly not jealous and wouldnt want to live there,I feel much safer where I am,and know that I'll be looked after
Oh yeah Robinuk is right too,until a top American AMA rider competes in th GP series and wins,or vice versa,we'll never know who is the "greatest"
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10/3/2010 4:22am
Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
Antipodean wrote:
Good one. You almost had me there.
Yeah... cuz Australia is so much better right? I must have forgotten that you guys have one of the best militaries in the world... And that...
Yeah... cuz Australia is so much better right? I must have forgotten that you guys have one of the best militaries in the world... And that you guys have 21 MXoN gold medals... i could continue, but dont want to hurt any Aussies feelings. Seems like you guys get butthurt easily...
Cause having a great army and a few medals makes your country so much better then ours.. The ignorance.
And I'm not saying your country hasn't achieved more, but we do alright with what we have Smile
10/3/2010 5:52am
Billy Jack wrote:
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries...
America wins because we are the greatest country on planet earth. We are the baddest, we have the most nuclear weapons, we don't let other countries push us around, and America wins because America wants to win. Bottom line: Don't mess with America.
Antipodean wrote:
Good one. You almost had me there.
Yeah... cuz Australia is so much better right? I must have forgotten that you guys have one of the best militaries in the world... And that...
Yeah... cuz Australia is so much better right? I must have forgotten that you guys have one of the best militaries in the world... And that you guys have 21 MXoN gold medals... i could continue, but dont want to hurt any Aussies feelings. Seems like you guys get butthurt easily...
Huh?
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Billyjack, your an asshol@ and your misguided greatness based on the ability of your counties ability to do the most harm and violence to people and blow the planet earth up a million times over is what makes so many think your country is the ugliest on earth.
Remember no matter how big the Bully is, it is inevietable that some one will eventually kick the Bully in the nuts and than we seee what the Bully really is, a pussy.

No disrespect to any Americans here, just to the Billyjackasses of the world.
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Karma wrote:
Billyjack, your an asshol@ and your misguided greatness based on the ability of your counties ability to do the most harm and violence to people and...
Billyjack, your an asshol@ and your misguided greatness based on the ability of your counties ability to do the most harm and violence to people and blow the planet earth up a million times over is what makes so many think your country is the ugliest on earth.
Remember no matter how big the Bully is, it is inevietable that some one will eventually kick the Bully in the nuts and than we seee what the Bully really is, a pussy.

No disrespect to any Americans here, just to the Billyjackasses of the world.
good post!!
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You know I love my country to.........but boasting and bragging that it's better than everyone elses country.......is kind of stupid. There are some arrogant , way to fucking proud Americans in this thread alone. Jesus Christ.......no wonder most of the world hates us with attitudes like this. sheeeesh.......
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10/3/2010 9:36am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2010 9:49am
PressPassP wrote:
X 2,No doubt that you are proud of your country,which I applaud but that's not exacty the best way to come across is it?It's the kind...
X 2,No doubt that you are proud of your country,which I applaud but that's not exacty the best way to come across is it?It's the kind of talk that can give people from elsewhere an opinion that most of you don't deserve,don't you mean It's you push other countries around,mainly for oil as It's what underpins Americas whole status and economy,very cheap cost of living etc,but greatest? How do you define greatest? Greatest gun crime,greatest drug problems,greatest nation of obesity,continued racism in places,nowhere is perfect,don't be so narrowed minded,Travel the world and open your eyes,sadly most don't venture out as they feel its all great right where they are,but being fed a whole load of propaganda is to blame,how much on your news is about Europe,Asia,Africa etc? Your existence in Iraq is condoned through t,he media which is one sided .You have a great asset in Barrack Obama,his healthcare plan,like our NHS system would help a lot of people,its hard to think that even with all the wealth of the US,you have so much poverty,Bush has been your downfall.I visit every year to see family and freinds,I like America,I like most Americans and I've always been made to feel very welcome, but I am certainly not jealous and wouldnt want to live there,I feel much safer where I am,and know that I'll be looked after
Oh yeah Robinuk is right too,until a top American AMA rider competes in th GP series and wins,or vice versa,we'll never know who is the "greatest"
Try that one again; out of the top ten World's Most Dangerous Cities, the United States had only one city on the list. Your claims ring false, and so do your other claims. Per capita, places like Columbia, West Africa, and Iran are much more steeped in drugs and violence. According to the World Drug Report, " In 2007, Iran seized 84 per cent of the world's opium, and 28 per cent of all heroin". Columbia produces half of the world's cocaine. Not sure what you based your ideas on (maybe stereotypes), but it isn't backed by the facts.



Getting back to moto, when America wins year after year, and has such an impressive number of wins, we can infer from that on good grounds that America produces the best riders. No need to compete in the GP's.
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My $0.02c worth is it's the same reason the US is the biggest global economy. USA has the largest population with a free enough economy & mostly consistent cross border regulations ( US wise that is interstate, Europe cross border, but Europe rides the MXoN seperately, not as EU ).
So not only the largest economy, but also you get a large number of people who can ride & more importantly a well rewarded & highly competitive elite MX competition.
If you're an American who feels like bragging about winning the MxoN how about making things a bit more balanced.
Two rounds per year.
First round MX USA vs Europe vs APEC ( Asia/Pacific), five riders per class, top three count for points.
Second round 6 months later same as above, but SX.
I'd prefer adding a Cross Country & extreme enduro to the list, but probably not enough support & given how the rest of the world dominates those racing styles probably not much US support Smile .
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10/3/2010 9:39am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2010 9:48am
Karma wrote:
Billyjack, your an asshol@ and your misguided greatness based on the ability of your counties ability to do the most harm and violence to people and...
Billyjack, your an asshol@ and your misguided greatness based on the ability of your counties ability to do the most harm and violence to people and blow the planet earth up a million times over is what makes so many think your country is the ugliest on earth.
Remember no matter how big the Bully is, it is inevietable that some one will eventually kick the Bully in the nuts and than we seee what the Bully really is, a pussy.

No disrespect to any Americans here, just to the Billyjackasses of the world.
Oh yeah, if some loony bombs your country, who do you think is going to come to your rescue? It won't be the kangaroos from Australia, it will be America. America stands as a center piece to protect this world from loonies. Military is needed, it always has been, and always will be needed. Being proud of my country and thinking it's the greatest does not qualify me as a jackass. That's nothing but a short-sided personal attack.
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Prince1 wrote:
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports...
Im a proud american, with my EUROPEAN ancestry like at least 95% of you. We win in Motocross cause we suck ass in other major motorsports LIke F1,Moto GP and Trials. Besides what if Belgium was twice the size as they are now? It would be scary to think.
All you saying AMERICA is superior are dumb asses that make us sound like idiots.
I'll probably regret this, but Billy you talk crap, the US was late to the two biggest wars of the 20th century & IMHO wasn't the decisive factor in either, the first one it was extremely late in & whilst it hastened the end it was pretty much over anyways, the 2nd WW was won by Russia just look at the horrific stats on men killed in the Eastern front, yes the USA hastened the end ( Bletchley Park was not far off as significant ), but there is an arguement that if not for Japan the USA would have been in to late & Europe would have gone German, though I think the Nazis would have self imploded anyway.
In a nuclear age do we need a global cop, I'm not convinced, there are a number of countries capable of causing massive damage to any country stupid enough to cause real damage & the reality is the 21st century wars will be economic not military & Iraq/Afghanistan have proven the limits of military might in the 21st century.
If anything the total distortion of military spending globally is hurting the US ( money spent & negative influence eg. military bases in Japan ), not to mention a number of hugely expensive weapons like Carriers/F22 are becoming redundant, Carriers going the way of Battleships due to missile technology & F22's UAV technology.
I have massive respect for Gates & I think he get's what is required of the US military in the 21st century, but it's not what you're suggesting.

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