Dallas SX – Notes, observations and such.

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Edited Date/Time 1/20/2012 5:06am
This may be lengthy, so pull up a chair, fix a drink and read on.

First off, I have to say that the Monster Energy Drink logo is every where at the races. When the deal was first announced that Monster would be the title sponsor, I was a bit concerned whether or not they could handle it. Well, rest assured, they’re handling it. You can’t go any where now without seeing Monster this or Monster that. Good for them and good for Supercross (but I still won’t drink that shit).

Secondly, whoever decided that it would be a good idea to hand out thousands of those plastic Toyota pit boards for people to write stuff on and hold up for the cameras, needs punched in the neck. Nothing pisses me off more than hand held signs held up right in front of me while I’m watching practice or racing on the track. And to that little punk who kept holding his up after I repeatedly asked not to do so unless the cameras were on him, sorry about that Mountain Dew I spilled during that 450 heat race. I know your shirt and pants were soaked and you probably had sticky back the whole night, but it just slipped right out of my hands when the lid was off.

To someone at LiveNation: Which one of you decided it would be okay to let all the kids in the pits on those damn razor scooter thingys? Then, the little rats got ‘em in the stadium! Either you or security need to ring the necks of them little bastages. Seriously.

Also spotted in the pits, the ridiculously gorgeous Jamie Little. It was comical watching a tidal wave of heads turning as she walked by. I sure wish we had her back on the telecast.

Saw 500Guy (not near as cute as Jamie Little by the way), but he was in deep talks with some guys and when I came back with my $9 BBQ sammich and $5 bottle of water, he had disappeared. Sorry Jay, I’ll catch you next time.

Attendance was frighteningly low. Lowest I’ve ever seen for the Dallas SX. But, since most Motodrivers will say the economy is doing just fine, I’ll let them explain why there were so many seats left empty. Should I care? Not really. But do I? Yeah, I do, believe it or not. Attendance is critical at these events and the sport can’t continue to bleed internally the way it does and keep going. Who’s to blame? No one specifically, but someone (ahem, LiveNation….when you’re done with the little bastages and their razor scooters, you may wanna look into this) needs to.

Weather was near perfect. Blue skies, warm temperatures. It really couldn’t have been better as far as the weather was concerned.

The track? Not so perfect. One phrase I heard to describe the track was “Awful”. Another pro rider said the track was “Shitty, really shitty”. And yet another referred to it as “A really shitty arenacross track, but bigger”.

Girls, it’s a Supercross race, not a fashion show. The six inch heels, halter dresses, $400 designer jeans, leather skirts, and dinner plate-sized earrings are a bit much don’t ya think? And those cheesy retro 1970’s-ish sunglasses that didn’t even look good on Farrah Fawcett have to go. Oh, and the eating disorders need to be left at home as well. Seeing a girl with legs as thick as a toothbrush handle is just wrong. Eat a sammich for cryin’ out loud!

And don’t even get me started on the girl across the aisle from me. She was either trying REALLY hard to pull off her best Amy Winehouse, or she just crawled out of rehab….no no no.

Practice was fun to watch. I always have a good time sitting and watching riders dissect a track and see the different lines and rhythms that develop. What we as fans see up in the seats is totally different than the riders see from the seat of their bikes.

Three things stood out in practice most:

1. Tommy Hahn’s crash over one of the triples scared the shit outta me, I’m sure he’d agree. On the approach to the face of the jump, his bike just died. At that speed, on a jump like that, you know what happened. The front end dropped like mad, but Tommy rode it out and caught the landing on the front wheel and crashed over the bars. Luckily, he walked away. I talked to younger brother Wil later in the evening, and he too agreed that it was scary. The bike puked on Tommy again in the main (after an impressive 3rd in his heat race) and he wisely pulled off instead of risking injury. Glad you’re alright, Tommy.

2. The Lites guys seem more aggressive in practice. Not sure why, but that’s what it looked like to me. Canard, Grant, and Villopoto all attacked the track from the start of practice. Other Lites riders rode very aggressive as well.

3. No DV12. Where the hell is DV12? Every race I go to, I always try to make my way to go see and say hi to DV. He’s always been a class guy to me and I always try to stop and catch up with Le Cobra (if in Texas, he should be Le Rattlesnake). More on that later.

Speaking of DV, his absence left only one Suzuki in the 450 night show. That Suzuki belonged to the #17 of Robbie Reynard. Reynard’s a fan favorite and has been for many years. His perseverance through pain and injury is unreal and the stuff of legend. But last night, Robbie rode well, but couldn’t get the starts he needed to make the main. Maybe Roger would loan Robert and Robbie DV’s motor for a few weeks? I know, I’m dreamin’….

The girl that sang the national anthem....she done good. Really good. Glad she didn't butcher it.

Lites Class: The Lites class is deeeeeeep. From the start of the day, it was apparent that Villopoto, Ryan Sipes, and Canard were on their game. Grant, Davalos, Jesseman and a few others were just a fraction off it seemed. If someone were to have a bad start or bad luck, it could be anyone’s game. And that’s exactly what happened to points leader and LCQ winner Trey Canard right off the start of the main when he was collected in a tangle of bikes in the first rhythm section. Hung up long enough to relegate him to nearly last place, Canard put his head down and charged like a bull in Pampalona. The crowd, aware of Trey's situation cheered like mad (not me, I was nervous as an Enron accountant) for most of the 15 laps.

At the checkers, it was Villopoto who took the win followed by Grant, and then Davalos. Had it gone one more lap, Canard could have very well podiumed the race as he was hot on the heels of the mercurial Ecuadorian, Davalos.

Sadly though, we never got to see the highly talented Sipes as he didn’t make the main. A crash in his heat race and a bad finish in the LCQ left the friendly Kentuckian in the bleachers for the main. Better luck next time, Ryan.

450 class: Windham put on a clinic in his heat race. It was a display of dominance we’ve not seen since the #4 Suzuki drove off into the sunset last year. Windham makes going fast on a dirt bike look easy. It kinda sucks really. But anyone who knows this sport that if Kevin wins or if he finishes last, he has a huge legion of faithful fans in Texas. The stadium roared every time K-dub took the track. In the other heat race, Josh Hill once again showed his talent aboard a 450 as he took the other heat race win.

In the 450 main, Travis Preston shot out of the gate like a missile and led lap one until making a small mistake allowing The Yamahas of Reed and Hill to get by. Windham, the obvious fan favorite, got a less than spectacular start but began gaining ground on the front pack. But with Reed out front and Hill in second, the only battle left to fight was for that of third. Millsaps, Windham, and Tim Ferry (I didn’t see man-friend Matthes on the back of the seat holding on). At race’s end, it was Millsaps holding onto third, Windham fourth, and Ferry fifth. Anyway, this ain’t a race report, so just watch it on Speed at 5pm (or 6pm, or 4pm….depending where you live).

Here’s a real race report by everyone's favorite former Motodriver –
http://www.racerxill.com/articles/detail/3155/dallas-sx-race-report.aspx

After the races, myself and a few friends made our way back out toward the Torco Racing/Factory Connection/Honda rig to pat Canard on the back and wish him and mechanic Brent a hearty congratulations. Trey still has the points lead with two races to go. Go get it done, Trey, I believe in you….as do the thousands of other fans you have.

In the pits, it was way less crowded after the races than it is before. I stopped and spoke with Mitch Payton and shook the legend’s hand and told him how much respect and admiration he has from not only myself, but from fans allover the world. He smiled (I’ve never seen him smile before) and thanked me.

So then I stopped by Suzuki and asked about DV12. One of the mechanics, unclear of what I said, responded with, “Yeah, that’s his bike.”. Wait….huh? So I told him I was curious where Le Rattlesnake (if he was a BMX racer, he’d have to be Le Diamond Back, ha ha ha!!!!!!) was and he told me that DV had left after the first practice. Something about a sore back. I know how that goes. Back pain is terrible. Get well soon Le Rattlesnake!

Finally, as I was walking away from there, I spotted Andy Bowyer and we stopped, shook hands and chit chatted a bit. It was then I reminded him, that I still needed to get a Clint Bowyer hat for my dad (my old man is a huge NASCAR fan now days). Well, as it would be, I was in luck. Clint himself was right around there somewhere and so Andy whipped out his cell phone and started tracking brother Clint down. After a few minutes, Andy’s dad walked up and after we made introductions, Mr. Bowyer himself took his hat right off his head and handed it to me, smiling the whole time and acting if we’d been best buds our whole lives.

Soon after, we found Clint and I told him my dad would be super-pumped (RC reference there) to get this hat, could he please sign it for me? Sure enough, Clint walked over to the Pro Circuit/Kawi truck and immediately began rummaging through the tool boxes searching for a Sharpie. Once he found one, my hat was signed and I thanked Clint, Andy, and the rest of the crew and headed out to come back home….a short little 6 hour drive home (some of you will get that joke). Those Bowyers are truly good people.

So, on my way home, I stopped at the folks' house and gave my dad the hat and told him to cheer for Clint today. My old man was super pumped over that hat...and that made my weekend right there.
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4/6/2008 1:47pm
Good job guys...
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Nice write-up Chuck. Good on Bowyers.
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Nice detail, but the race is on TV now, and no way will I read that entire post. I will say that the tracks have become freeways with the objective of big jumps and not much more. Everything sets the pro rider up for the jump. Personally, I'd like to see a bunch of chop before some jumps, more ruts (yeah, I know that's not really Dallas's soil), and maybe even throwing in whoops amongst the jumps, so guys can't rhythm and jump everything on the track.

Put at least a bit of MX back into it.

I was out riding yesterday, and one of the riders complained about ruts on the MX track. Uh.....duh. That'd be Motocross, young man. Shut up and ride.
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4/6/2008 3:21pm
Only a 6 hour drive home? Man the traffic in Dallas must have been good!

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Excellent report Chuck, thanks for taking the time.

Clint seems like a really cool dude, he came on so strong at the end of todays race, only to get shafted within sight of the finish line.
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Nice write up Charles! Thanks!
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Excellent write up Chuck, sorry I missed you, I thought I saw you once but wasn't sure, I think it was right when I got there and was talking to The guy's at the AMA truck.

Just strolled in from today's flights, Paul and I had to go to Denver then to Phoenix today so we been at it 10 hours with lay overs ect.

I agree attendance is a big issue so is the economy.
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Thanks for the good write up, Chuck. Got any cool pictures of said anorexic girls in $400 jeans?
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Hall of Fame.
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One of the reasons attendance was down was not only because of nascar but there was a tccra race all weekend in antelope Texas, about two hours away. There were 403 racers and you can at least tripple that to add in family and there goes some of it.
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4/6/2008 9:10pm
awesome report chuck. i too hate those toyota pitboards and the thunder sticks that were at the Anaheim races urgh!!!!!!!!!!
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That was great Chuck. Jay asked if I had seen you there at the races. I told him I hadn't sen you in a couple of years and forgot what you look like. Sorry dude. Maybe next time. going to St. Louis??
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4/7/2008 5:45am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:33pm
Good write up. That Hahn crash was really scary, but he bounced right up. Landed head first. I think he was wearing a neck brace...don't know if that made a difference, but it was real scary to see him fall.

The takeoffs on the triples and the finish line were like spikes. Actually saw a couple of bikes get stuck on the top during the siting lap. The KTM's were carnage over them.

As far as the track goes, I thought it was decent...but, the dirt was a problem. Obviously hard and the tracktors left ridges that were really nasty.

KW was FLYING through the whoops. I was really pleased to see him charge throughout the race. Davy was riding good for 10 laps, but started making mistakes. I think KW could have gotten in to second if not for Milsaps mistakes right in front of him at the most inopportune times.

Canard was hauling...but, in regards to depth, there's a big gap between TC/RV and the next group of riders. I spent the entire lites race watching TC slice through the pack. Very entertaining.

The rhythm sections were actually good in that there were multiple rhythms that they used throughout the night.

Overall, I really enjoyed the racing.
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The attendance was low because Nascar was in town AND the "Mud Nationals" (big four wheeler, redneck, drunk fest) were at Mud Creek over in Jacksonville. I heard that there were going to be 20 thousand people at the mud nats. That kept a bunch, not all, of rednecks away.

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Finally, as I was walking away from there, I spotted Andy Bowyer and we stopped, shook hands and chit chatted a bit. It was then I reminded him, that I still needed to get a Clint Bowyer hat for my dad (my old man is a huge NASCAR fan now days). Well, as it would be, I was in luck. Clint himself was right around there somewhere and so Andy whipped out his cell phone and started tracking brother Clint down. After a few minutes, Andy’s dad walked up and after we made introductions, Mr. Bowyer himself took his hat right off his head and handed it to me, smiling the whole time and acting if we’d been best buds our whole lives

great write up chuck. The Bowyer family is waaay cool. Glad you had a great time. too bad about attendance and you can bet yer ass it's the bush economy that is hitting us hard.
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4/7/2008 8:01am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2008 8:01am
anyone have the attendance figures? it seems i remember smaller crowds there in the past.
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I guess there are only so many weekends in a SX season, but I'm still trying to figure out why Livenation would try to race against NASCAR.

I don't think the tanking economy had much to do with poor attendance. The tracks get worse every year, you can't tell what Boyd is yelling over the PA, and beer is $7.00 a pop for a freekin' Miller Lite. The parking is outragous, I can't recall but it's $15.00/$20.00.

Compare all that to Tx. Motor Speedway on Sunday. That place was Packed. That's some where north of 250,000 people. Parking is free, and you can bring your own food and drinks.

Blame the economy all you want, but that ain't the reason.
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"you can't tell what Boyd is yelling over the PA"

That is the worst. I'm not sure why they even bother.





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this thread is useless w/o pics of girls in 6'' heels and halter dresses.
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parking was $10.
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txmxer wrote:
parking was $10.
Come on man, let me embellish a little.

it was still $10.00 more than TMS.
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I guess there are only so many weekends in a SX season, but I'm still trying to figure out why Livenation would try to race against...
I guess there are only so many weekends in a SX season, but I'm still trying to figure out why Livenation would try to race against NASCAR.

I don't think the tanking economy had much to do with poor attendance. The tracks get worse every year, you can't tell what Boyd is yelling over the PA, and beer is $7.00 a pop for a freekin' Miller Lite. The parking is outragous, I can't recall but it's $15.00/$20.00.

Compare all that to Tx. Motor Speedway on Sunday. That place was Packed. That's some where north of 250,000 people. Parking is free, and you can bring your own food and drinks.

Blame the economy all you want, but that ain't the reason.
Yeah I do not understand the scheduling of the race to compete with a local nascar event...come on this is TX.

As far as your other points I agree on the prices and do not understand why Boyd is there yelling over the PA either.

I must be getting old...but the parking lot after the races is like a war zone...people pissing everywhere, fights, drunks, and craziness...


The race was pretty good though....Kdub and Davi put on a nice show!


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4/7/2008 9:15am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2008 9:16am
Hey Karl, you should have called me before the races started, we had all the free beer you could drink at our tailgate party. We also had front row seats to the gnarliest fight I've ever seen. Three slightly intoxicated dudes that must have each weighed in at 300lbs started trading punches and hitting each other in the head with beer bottles. It made UFC seem like a walk in the park.
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Great write up. I thought the track looked shit on the tv also. I was so bored I actually couldn't even watch it all in one sitting.
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CamP wrote:
Hey Karl, you should have called me before the races started, we had all the free beer you could drink at our tailgate party. We also...
Hey Karl, you should have called me before the races started, we had all the free beer you could drink at our tailgate party. We also had front row seats to the gnarliest fight I've ever seen. Three slightly intoxicated dudes that must have each weighed in at 300lbs started trading punches and hitting each other in the head with beer bottles. It made UFC seem like a walk in the park.
We parked in the west RV lot, it's like a retirement village in comparison, but you can get out of there very quickly. We were home by 10:45.

Now if LN could figure out a way to schedule those bar fights they'd have sell outs every year.
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I think the attendance is down for several reasons, and I don't think the economy is one of the big reasons.

1) The tracks all BLOW!!!! Come on, we used to have minute plus lap times, with 2 heats, 2 semis, and a last chance. In a 45 second lap, I bet only 15-20 of them are actually on the ground. Hard to pass without taking someone out, and if you do, you will be on double top secret probation, unless you are J-Law, then you are out. Now we have less than half the riding we used to and they fill the gaps with BS announcers and re-grooming the highway....I mean track.
2) Prices of munchies. Motocross used to be a family deal. If I were to go with my wife and 2 kids, I'd drop $150-200 on tickets, At least 4 hot dogs/burgers(at least $4 each), 4 pops(at least $4 each), 4 snacks at who knows how much $. There goes another $100 on food. We live quite a ways from Minneapolis, so a hotel room is needed, another $100. Fuel is 50-100. All for a grand total of 60-75 minutes of racing. NO WAY!
3) Not a whole lot of racing going on in the front, at least the 450 class. Everyone hates it when one rider runs away with the win every week.
4) Obvious reasons, other stuff going on....NASCAR, watching paint dry....

We are getting too much of a show and not enough racing. Get rid of the slutty ladies walking around on the track(back to the family atmosphere), put away the fireworks, make the tracks larger, and figure out how to lower the prices of food and drinks. That's a good place to start!
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4/7/2008 11:02am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2008 11:03am
"Get rid of the slutty ladies walking around on the track "

Lets not get carried away now............
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4) Obvious reasons, other stuff going on....NASCAR, watching paint dry....


May be, but they had 250,000+. Not what I'd call an attendance problem.
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they don't control the price of food and drinks.
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
4) Obvious reasons, other stuff going on....NASCAR, watching paint dry....


May be, but they had 250,000+. Not what I'd call an attendance problem.
More like an IQ problem. Whistling

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