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Hey don't feel bad, I've been doing this for 32 years and I'm still figuring stuff out.
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Thanks alot!!!!
Now whats wrong with these... besides the haze everywhere....
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Def... a levels adjustment would work really well and add a little pop to these. Especially no. 3 and no.4.
The before photo is on the left, after on the right.
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I have to agree with Paul on everything he has said so far in this entire post.
I would like to add that in these photos they all look to me, to be over exposed by at least 1 stop. And for the haze a UV filter should help eliminate some of that.
As for levels... Well I hate levels at the same time I love them.. Its too easy to destroy an image with levels.
I use curves. Curves doesn't deteriorate the image as much as levels does and curves also hits the color at the same time so no saturation needed.
Here is what I do..
regardless of what you use , curves or levels, always change the image to 16 bit before hand.
With curves (and Levels) there are 3 eye droppers in the bottom right of the application window.
The left one is black point, the middle is grey or neutral and the right is white point.
levels (ctrl+L) Curves (ctrl+M)
All you need to do its click on the white point eye dropper then find the part of the image you want to be pure perfect white and click on it.. if you do not like it you can go back or click in another spot that should be pure white.
once the white is done do the same for the black and your image should look good.
Here is a sample of the image you had on here. I clicked 1 white point and 1 black point and this is what I came up with.
Give a full res image a try and see how you like it.
Good luck
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But i cant edit 300 photos that i take in a couple hours on a practice day... So im hoping the tips i have and future ones will help get my photos looking prime time!
When I have to process a few hundred photos from a local MX race here's what I do with a Photoshop droplet.
1. Set the image size.
2. Crop with the marquee tool
3. Convert to LAB mode
4. Run auto levels on the L channel only (that affects the lightness/darkness only, no color change)
5. Sharpen the L channel with un-sharp mask
6. Convert to RGB
7. Bump saturation by 15 to 20 points
8. Add a copyright line that also includes the track and date.
9. Save as the same name but to a different folder
10. close, next please.
Do all your editing to 1 photo and create an action doing it. Then do that action to the entire folder. (batch process) 15 minutes and all 300 of your photos are edited and ready to make a photo gallery.
To get them better right out of the camera. I would suggest shooting in full manual and concentrate on getting the exposure dead on.
In these last images a UV Haze filter would have helped a little.
Also work on setting a custom WB instead of auto and I wouldn't rule out on these last ones that your ISO wasn't to high.
Higher ISO tends to leave the images flat and less dynamic range.
You also have custom color setting you can tweak in your camera..
Hey Paul in those I sent you in the PM were the colors pretty good or not? Think I can get them better strait out of the camera?
About the eye dropper tools, I never use them, it's too easy to click on a wrong spot and wreck an image especially if you don't have a calibrated monitor. If I do one image with levels I start with the black point slider, holding down the option key and slide until I just about have a solid black somewhere, then onto the white point slider with the option key down to see what's blowing out then maybe a little mid tone adjustment (no option key for that one.)
Link to some of the better pics I took this year.
A few are out of focus etc..., but still turned out, uh well different, I guess.
Critique away!
Awesome post. Thanks
Pit Row
This is awesome you are doing this. I have a question regarding shooting photos in the woods. I have taken a number of photos in situations where I am outside in the forest with lots of surrounding trees. I usually shoot something in ISO 400-1600 range and shoot at a wide aperture like 2.8 – 5.6 to avoid using flash for action shots. I have had little success.
Here is the problem. In between the dark shadows of the trees you have ambient light coming through also. I often get blowouts plus underexposed areas in the same shot.
I think the answer is using a high powered flash. The flash photos I have taken make a natural setting look fake however. How does one get natural looking photos in these settings with flash? Any tricks you care to share? Thanks!
Here are a couple samples of the problem. (no post processing)
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Thank you, Great idea!
Bill
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This is awesome you are doing this. I have a question regarding shooting photos in the woods. I have taken a number of photos in situations where I am outside in the forest with lots of surrounding trees. I usually shoot something in ISO 400-1600 range and shoot at a wide aperture like 2.8 – 5.6 to avoid using flash for action shots. I have had little success.
Here is the problem. In between the dark shadows of the trees you have ambient light coming through also. I often get blowouts plus underexposed areas in the same shot.
I think the answer is using a high powered flash. The flash photos I have taken make a natural setting look fake however. How does one get natural looking photos in these settings with flash? Any tricks you care to share? Thanks!
Here are a couple samples of the problem. (no post processing)[/quote:2ep01paj]
It's a matter of balancing the light, set your aperture and shutter speed to the highlights and then add just enough flash to fill in the shadows, that might be minus 2 or three stops flash exp comp. Using manual exp mode is a must in situations like that since the sun streaming in through the trees will fool a camera's meter every time.
To keep those streaks going set your ambient exp to 1 or two stops below the correct exp. then set your flash's exp comp to give your subject enough light
Thank you, Great idea!
Bill
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Bill, give manual a try, it will really help when the track is all rich and dark brown (the perfect recipe to over expose a rider) set your ISO to 400, the shutter speed to 1000 and your lens to f11 and as long as it's a sunny day you'll be in the ballpark. If the shots look too light go to an f stop with a higher number, too dark go to a lower number (think of f stops as denominators in a fraction so f2 is one half, f16 is one sixteenth, f32 is one thirty second)
A smaller f stop will help your depth of field, it just takes practice predicting where a rider will be when you push the button.
Brown, try the highest ISO you've got on your Rebel to see if that works for you at the biggest size print you're likely to make. See if that will give you something like 500 shutter speed at f4. Use the AI servo setting for the focus and try to catch the peak action moments, that split second when a player is in-between jumping up and coming down. Also try asking the AD if you can use bounce flash, a small strobe even an on camera one bounced off a nearby wall will help and the flash won't be pointed at the players.
James & RC at Red bud '07. This was shot from the fence down by the whoops.
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Brown, try the highest ISO you've got on your Rebel to see if that works for you at the biggest size print you're likely to make. See if that will give you something like 500 shutter speed at f4. Use the AI servo setting for the focus and try to catch the peak action moments, that split second when a player is in-between jumping up and coming down. Also try asking the AD if you can use bounce flash, a small strobe even an on camera one bounced off a nearby wall will help and the flash won't be pointed at the players.[/quote:3geectbl]
Thanks! I will try that tomorrow.
It's a matter of balancing the light, set your aperture and shutter speed to the highlights and then add just enough flash to fill in the shadows, that might be minus 2 or three stops flash exp comp. Using manual exp mode is a must in situations like that since the sun streaming in through the trees will fool a camera's meter every time.
To keep those streaks going set your ambient exp to 1 or two stops below the correct exp. then set your flash's exp comp to give your subject enough light[/quote:q9eoztvk]
Thanks for the solid tips. What about the white balance setting should I leave it on auto? Should I set it to flash or something like shade which is 700 k when shooting with flash for fill in? Thanks
When I have to process a few hundred photos from a local MX race here's what I do with a Photoshop droplet.
1. Set the image size.
2. Crop with the marquee tool
3. Convert to LAB mode
4. Run auto levels on the L channel only (that affects the lightness/darkness only, no color change)
5. Sharpen the L channel with un-sharp mask
6. Convert to RGB
7. Bump saturation by 15 to 20 points
8. Add a copyright line that also includes the track and date.
9. Save as the same name but to a different folder
10. close, next please.[/quote:18qhn2g6]
Hey Paul, I get how you would like me to edit the pictures and i like the look of them edited. But i dont get the batch thing. I can do some photoshop stuff... but not alot. If you could help me with this process id greatly appreciate it!
Thanks for all your help paul. Im going to copy all these tips and print them out and carry them around in case i ever need help... cuz i sure there will be some situations where i think to myself "how do i shoot this?" but alls i will have to do is look in my camera bag and find these papers!
Also would u recommend shooting with a monopod? Ive been thinking of getting one but dont know?
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