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Maybe he'll come here and explain it. Maybe I'll be rolling on the floor, laughing. Or maybe I'll just shake my head sadly.
Personally, I'm blaming the Department of Homeland Security.
IT'S OFF-SEASON!!!
its not like someone spamming the site with 50 bullshit posts about viagra, member those days?
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I like the argument, but do it right, and do it smart.
As far as spammers, we've got some better tools to work with these days.
There you go, calling me a tool again Gibby
.. .i do have a nose like a bloodhound for those pesky spammers, most now get clipped before they even get a chance to post.
I agree with you, with smart and sensible action, results will be achieved. Lets hope we continue to see progress and no more silly misdemeanors !!!
Where?
Detroit coming back baby!!!
Pit Row
that said, i am racing an '03 YZ 250 this weekend against a slew of fast dudes on brand new strokers. i'll probably get beat power wise, but i can guarantee i will have the biggest smile when i take off my helmet.
not to mention there is an added purse, so what better way to make some money and not have to spend it on a rebuild
Tiddler, yeah, I buy that excuse. Especially after the "F--kers better not delete my s--t!" :D
What about this Ping guy -
Dear David,
I want to thank you for your wit, your conservative stance and your ability to set ignorant questioners back with their tails between their legs. The quad guy from Texas was a true classic! Just maybe he likes his own boogers. I know my 3-year-old son loves them.
Anyway, I would like to address the issue of the rising cost of our sport. Maybe I’m preaching to the choir here, but I cannot rationalize how things got so out of hand cost-wise in the last few years. I mean $8K+ for a dirt bike? Then we throw in the cost for gear, any mods to the bike, and the increasing cost for race fees. I know we are paying for the latest and greatest technology out there. I am a mechanical engineer by trade and I can appreciate the advances, but there has to be a compromise of technology vs. cost here. I do remember when MXers were affordable and even a kid with a decent part-time job could afford one. Not the case anymore. Granted, racing is never cheap, but I think the manufacturers have to address the rising cost of this sport. I do not want it to turn to an elitist sport where we are asking the guy in the RV next to us for a little Grey Poupon. I would appreciate your thoughts from the inside. Keep up the good work.
Regards,
Chris Bauer
If you mow this much grass you can afford a 4-stroke exhaust system... maybe.
Dear Chris,
This is such a huge issue with me. I appreciate the new bikes as much as anybody; they are amazing machines that have been developed over years of racing and R&D. But I think that the overall health of the sport is going to deteriorate because of the cost. As you mentioned, it isn’t realistic anymore for a kid to mow lawns and save up enough cash to buy his first bike. Less than a decade ago you could pick up a used 125 for a couple thousand bucks and run the wheels off it. If it needed a top end you saved a couple hundred bucks and that was all you needed. I don’t have the answer here, Chris. I wish there was some way to keep the 125 alive in the sport. It is a great bike to get started with and an affordable way as well. Until that time comes I guess we just keep riding our thumpers and praying long and hard that something doesn’t let go inside the engine, because there isn’t enough grass in my neighborhood to pay that repair bill.
PING
I think I've said in the past that I think something in the 350 range is probably about right for the bigger four-stroke class. I think I've also said a time or two that I don't know how to "fix" the smaller class. Making 250 four-strokes smaller and winding them tighter isn't going to help their cause. Bumping up the two-strokes to match seems like a better plan, but I'm not sure what the right number is. 150's probably not enough, and 250 seems like too much.
I'm also not sure we'll see any of the OEs (Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Honda) resurrect their two-stroke programs again. The boutique brands? There are reasons why they haven't made it here, whether it's quality, performance, dealer network, or customer preference. I'm not sure that building small (or large) two-strokes will make a difference to any of them.
In the meantime? Kudos to Yamaha and KTM for keeping the smaller two-strokes around.
I really have to wonder, given the economic forecast for the next few years, where the sport will be. I would love to see some hard questions put to the AMA and each mfgr .... before they go and kill off the sport completely because no one can afford it.
Allowing a 250 2-stroke to race them would render them irrelevant, but those same rulemakers had no problem writing the deal that effectively killed the 125, which was really the backbone of the entire sport.
Let the 250F die, it was a bad rule that brought them in, and is completely illogical to hang onto when a faster, cheaper, and simpler technology is available.
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