Dungey the 350 will be.....

pilotdude wrote:

Yes Jamma, I'm sure your right. He never cuts over on people during starts. I've never seen it with my own eyes-or on video-and neither has...

Yes Jamma, I'm sure your right. He never cuts over on people during starts. I've never seen it with my own eyes-or on video-and neither has anyone else. It's all a myth, a fantasy, and a lie that has been created simply to irritate you and cast dispersion on your little Italian hero.

I'm soooo, soooo sorry. I'll have Team U.S.A. deliver my appology to Cairoli personally...if he rides that is. Sounds like a little "sponsor on the jersey" problem might keep him from facing Team U.S.A. on our home soil the way Team U.S.A. faced him on his last year.

joe101uk wrote:

They pretty much raced straight up in the first race. Dungey was about 30 seconds behind and was holding Desalle up.

jamma10 wrote:

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on. According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for...

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on.

According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for the entire first moto. While what I saw was Cairoli catch and then pass Reed for the lead, settle into a rhythm and then gap him comfortably by the end of the moto. Now you could say Reed settled for 2nd, but even Reed said afterwards that he couldn't pass him. That was the current Outdoor National Champion, before he got injured in SX '10 and started to question his motivation to race anymore.

Pilotdude also says that 'karma caught up with Cairoli and paid him back for all the bullshit moves he's made in the past during starts'. Well Im sorry but that is up there with the biggest load of crap I have ever read on here. Despite what you may have heard Cairoli does not have a habit of cutting across people on the start and a so-called fan of the sport shouldn't be so disrespectful in saying he deserved to be taken out. Not only could that totally incidental crash have resulted in a serious injury but as PressPassP said, it robbed us all of watching what should have been a thrilling climax to a finely poised event.

pilotdude wrote:

Yes Jamma, I'm sure your right. He never cuts over on people during starts. I've never seen it with my own eyes-or on video-and neither has...

Yes Jamma, I'm sure your right. He never cuts over on people during starts. I've never seen it with my own eyes-or on video-and neither has anyone else. It's all a myth, a fantasy, and a lie that has been created simply to irritate you and cast dispersion on your little Italian hero.

I'm soooo, soooo sorry. I'll have Team U.S.A. deliver my appology to Cairoli personally...if he rides that is. Sounds like a little "sponsor on the jersey" problem might keep him from facing Team U.S.A. on our home soil the way Team U.S.A. faced him on his last year.

PressPassP wrote:

We definateley didn't see the real Cairoli in 2007 and last year AC did his usual,when Reed got close he upped the pace,and he's never been...

We definateley didn't see the real Cairoli in 2007 and last year AC did his usual,when Reed got close he upped the pace,and he's never been known for bull$hit moves,(neither for whining like Reed,he's always respectfull)Villopoto got beat bu AC in recent MXoN years too and he has a huge GP points league too even with up and coming othr riders and also on the 350 (That Mikey just cannot get to grips with,put him on a 450 and problem solved to a degree?) as for the pile up last year at the MXoN ,well it robbed us all of the big race,I'd rather have seen Reed,Dungey and Cairoli go at it than see Dungey win and become the "overall winner" albeit without battling with the other fastest on the day,but to be fair he got the lead and won,just a pity for true MX fans it sureley would be fair to say? I' d have loved to see those 3 go at it!!

joe101uk wrote:

They pretty much raced straight up in the first race. Dungey was about 30 seconds behind and was holding Desalle up.

jamma10 wrote:

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on. According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for...

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on.

According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for the entire first moto. While what I saw was Cairoli catch and then pass Reed for the lead, settle into a rhythm and then gap him comfortably by the end of the moto. Now you could say Reed settled for 2nd, but even Reed said afterwards that he couldn't pass him. That was the current Outdoor National Champion, before he got injured in SX '10 and started to question his motivation to race anymore.

Pilotdude also says that 'karma caught up with Cairoli and paid him back for all the bullshit moves he's made in the past during starts'. Well Im sorry but that is up there with the biggest load of crap I have ever read on here. Despite what you may have heard Cairoli does not have a habit of cutting across people on the start and a so-called fan of the sport shouldn't be so disrespectful in saying he deserved to be taken out. Not only could that totally incidental crash have resulted in a serious injury but as PressPassP said, it robbed us all of watching what should have been a thrilling climax to a finely poised event.

mikef wrote:

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently. Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much...

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently.

Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much bigger during the race. It seemed like at various points of the race Reed could close the gap at will, but like you said, couldn't make the pass, kinda like the year Reed beat RC at Daytona. RC himself said he was fast enough to catch him, but not fast enough to pass.

That being said, AC is a bad dude, and I believe is a threat to win most anytime\anywhere outdoors.

As for Joe101uk's comment on Dungey as Desalle, Desalle finished 16 seconds back of Dungey. Not sure how RD was holding him up???

mikef wrote:

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently. Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much...

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently.

Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much bigger during the race. It seemed like at various points of the race Reed could close the gap at will, but like you said, couldn't make the pass, kinda like the year Reed beat RC at Daytona. RC himself said he was fast enough to catch him, but not fast enough to pass.

That being said, AC is a bad dude, and I believe is a threat to win most anytime\anywhere outdoors.

As for Joe101uk's comment on Dungey as Desalle, Desalle finished 16 seconds back of Dungey. Not sure how RD was holding him up???

joe101uk wrote:

They pretty much raced straight up in the first race. Dungey was about 30 seconds behind and was holding Desalle up.

jamma10 wrote:

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on. According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for...

Its funny how we see it differently depending on which side of the pond we're on.

According to Pilotdude Cairoli simply managed to block Reed for the entire first moto. While what I saw was Cairoli catch and then pass Reed for the lead, settle into a rhythm and then gap him comfortably by the end of the moto. Now you could say Reed settled for 2nd, but even Reed said afterwards that he couldn't pass him. That was the current Outdoor National Champion, before he got injured in SX '10 and started to question his motivation to race anymore.

Pilotdude also says that 'karma caught up with Cairoli and paid him back for all the bullshit moves he's made in the past during starts'. Well Im sorry but that is up there with the biggest load of crap I have ever read on here. Despite what you may have heard Cairoli does not have a habit of cutting across people on the start and a so-called fan of the sport shouldn't be so disrespectful in saying he deserved to be taken out. Not only could that totally incidental crash have resulted in a serious injury but as PressPassP said, it robbed us all of watching what should have been a thrilling climax to a finely poised event.

mikef wrote:

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently. Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much...

Yes it is funny how things are seen differently.

Cairoli finished with just a 1.6 second gap on Reed, and it never really got much much bigger during the race. It seemed like at various points of the race Reed could close the gap at will, but like you said, couldn't make the pass, kinda like the year Reed beat RC at Daytona. RC himself said he was fast enough to catch him, but not fast enough to pass.

That being said, AC is a bad dude, and I believe is a threat to win most anytime\anywhere outdoors.

As for Joe101uk's comment on Dungey as Desalle, Desalle finished 16 seconds back of Dungey. Not sure how RD was holding him up???

mikef wrote:

Gotcha, didn't know he broke his foot on that, which would help explain why he continued to loose time to Dungey after that. Unless Dungey was...

Gotcha, didn't know he broke his foot on that, which would help explain why he continued to loose time to Dungey after that. Unless Dungey was riding a extremely wide bike prior, I wouldn't have described him as as "holding up Desalle".

My point was, less than 2 seconds is not really a comfortable gap. Nevertheless, AC seemed in control of the race.

I think in this side of the pond, early on AC had a reputation for riding dirty. It was probably furthered at the 2007 des nations when he very deliberately tried to cut over on RV on the starts. This was talked about in the post race interviews and reports. I don't really see this in recent years, but I don't watch all of the GP's either.

mohammed wrote:

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can...

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can only run a few laps with AC. I cant wait till the MXON cairoli will put on a show!!!

mohammed wrote:

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can...

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can only run a few laps with AC. I cant wait till the MXON cairoli will put on a show!!!

mohammed wrote:

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can...

This weekend proved dungey will have a battle in his hand with cairoli. Desalle was running dungeys pace at unadilla while here in europe desalle can only run a few laps with AC. I cant wait till the MXON cairoli will put on a show!!!

Hanaa80 wrote:

Cairoli is riding? Did they solve the "jersey-gate" already?

mohammed wrote:

Its a go!!

mohammed wrote:

Its a go!!

chrisbuehler wrote:

Shouldn't you hate Rat-boy and cheer for CP? Like to see CP take Cairoli's ass out at MXdN.

mohammed wrote:

No need for the name calling, its about winning at the mxon and very possible if dungey doesnt bring his A game.

mohammed wrote:

ready to kick some ass. Joking aside Cairoli proved last year he was the fastest mx1 rider in the world , i expect the same this...

ready to kick some ass. Joking aside Cairoli proved last year he was the fastest mx1 rider in the world , i expect the same this year. Should be a good battle between AC and american pie Dungey.The american team doesnt look too dominant this year, no stewart and RV,very beatable.



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Huckster wrote:

still waiting for a rational person to please tell me where AC beat RD in an overall last year?

Huckster wrote:

still waiting for a rational person to please tell me where AC beat RD in an overall last year?

Sunhouse wrote:

no one says so. what they are saying is the only moto they rode together, AC beat RD. The battle between the two ended when AC´s...

no one says so. what they are saying is the only moto they rode together, AC beat RD.
The battle between the two ended when AC´s bike was reduced to scrap metal

Huckster wrote:

still waiting for a rational person to please tell me where AC beat RD in an overall last year?

Sunhouse wrote:

no one says so. what they are saying is the only moto they rode together, AC beat RD. The battle between the two ended when AC´s...

no one says so. what they are saying is the only moto they rode together, AC beat RD.
The battle between the two ended when AC´s bike was reduced to scrap metal

Huckster wrote:

AC didnt line up at the gate in the 2nd moto?

mohammed wrote:

ready to kick some ass. Joking aside Cairoli proved last year he was the fastest mx1 rider in the world , i expect the same this...

ready to kick some ass. Joking aside Cairoli proved last year he was the fastest mx1 rider in the world , i expect the same this year. Should be a good battle between AC and american pie Dungey.The american team doesnt look too dominant this year, no stewart and RV,very beatable.



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davis224 wrote:

In Italy, AC beat the AMA best at the time, Reed. In the USA, I expect the same turnout, Dungey to beat AC. Plus Townley smoked...

In Italy, AC beat the AMA best at the time, Reed. In the USA, I expect the same turnout, Dungey to beat AC. Plus Townley smoked everyone at GH....

MusquinTheBest wrote:

Do you wanna understand that Townley didn't race moto 1 or not? And do you all americans want understand that Desalle was at the same level...

Do you wanna understand that Townley didn't race moto 1 or not?

And do you all americans want understand that Desalle was at the same level of Dungey at Dilla or not? Just he gave up when Dungey pass him. Cairoli will smoke Dungey, that's for sure.

Huckster wrote:

yes I did. Where I come from and the sport of motocross that I follow, all that matters is overalls. Not qualifying times or fastest laps...

yes I did. Where I come from and the sport of motocross that I follow, all that matters is overalls. Not qualifying times or fastest laps or one moto wonders. Dungey won that race straight up and all of you motocross experts refuse to give him the credit he is due which includes beating AC on that day, the only time they have ever raced together.....