Are Motocross Lap Times/Lap Charts Published Online Anymore?

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Up through last year, you could find detailed race results (including lap times, lap charts, etc.) here: https://americanmotocrossresults.com/

 

But they don't seem to be updating that anymore.  When I go to supermotocross.com it links me to here: https://promotocross.com/2025  This does provide results, but no details.

 

The Supermotocross.com site DOES provide the detailed results for SX.  But I can't find it for MX.  Is it available anywhere else?


(Overall, the supermotocross.com website is an abomination.)

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MXRalph wrote:

Yes, it's at SuperMotocross. Don't click pro motocross, click SMX, and then the event you want. It's all there. https://results.supermotocross.com/events/

Thanks.

 

Like I said, terrible website.  So unintuitive.  If you want Motocross results, don't click "motocross". 
 

And as far as I can tell the 2023 SMX results have been nuked from the site altogether.
 

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Go to https://results.promotocross.com/results/ then navigate to the "Main Event Results" then scroll down to "individual lap times" and "detailed lap times". Example above is for Hangtown.

 

Forewarning....the method in which they publish this data looks pretty on the website, but it's extremely difficult to work with in data analytic software. Takes a bunch of formatting and cleansing to get a useable, wide excel table.

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I also miss that they don’t publish season results of each rider by position holistically anymore. In the past, they would post a file that consisted of point standings and then the position each rider finished in each race. Ex: Eli Tomac 256 points | 2 1 3 2 ….

Made it SO much easier to compare results, now I believe they only publish it by points. Ex: Eli Tomac 256 points | 22 25 20 22 …

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I'm having a tough time finding what i want at times too. I'm not a fan of the new smx website. I'm clicking all over the place to find the entry list, what time each qualifying session is, even the other day i couldn't find the points paid out to the riders at Hangtown so i could calculate my Vitalmx fantasy score. I ended up going to the Vitalmx links thread and clicking on a link.

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I'm having a tough time finding what i want at times too. I'm not a fan of the new smx website. I'm clicking all over the...

I'm having a tough time finding what i want at times too. I'm not a fan of the new smx website. I'm clicking all over the place to find the entry list, what time each qualifying session is, even the other day i couldn't find the points paid out to the riders at Hangtown so i could calculate my Vitalmx fantasy score. I ended up going to the Vitalmx links thread and clicking on a link.

The points standings are a nightmare.  

 

Here's a snippet from page 2 SX after Denver:

 

Screenshot 2025-06-04 145112

 

They don't carry over the rider names on the first column of each row from the first page.  Joey Savatgy is in 12th place.  So you have to count down 12 rows to see his points the last few rounds.  Then you see an "N/A" in the row above him and you want to know who that is?  Well, you have to go back up to page 1 to figure that out.

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What about old supercross results, with lap times and heat races etc. - where are they now listed?

Used to be on  https://archives.amasupercross.com/  ,but that one is not working anymore.

^that one used to go back to 2003 to current results.

 

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What about old supercross results, with lap times and heat races etc. - where are they now listed?Used to be on  https://archives.amasupercross.com/  ,but that one...

What about old supercross results, with lap times and heat races etc. - where are they now listed?

Used to be on  https://archives.amasupercross.com/  ,but that one is not working anymore.

^that one used to go back to 2003 to current results.

 

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What about old supercross results, with lap times and heat races etc. - where are they now listed?Used to be on  https://archives.amasupercross.com/  ,but that one...

What about old supercross results, with lap times and heat races etc. - where are they now listed?

Used to be on  https://archives.amasupercross.com/  ,but that one is not working anymore.

^that one used to go back to 2003 to current results.

 

RichieW13 wrote:

Thanks!!

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Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

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snillum wrote:
Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

image 1703

I wish.

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snillum wrote:
Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

image 1703

Hopefully they add all the good stuff from the old sites again in the future, until then they kinda suck in comparison sadly.

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I'm having a tough time finding what i want at times too. I'm not a fan of the new smx website. I'm clicking all over the...

I'm having a tough time finding what i want at times too. I'm not a fan of the new smx website. I'm clicking all over the place to find the entry list, what time each qualifying session is, even the other day i couldn't find the points paid out to the riders at Hangtown so i could calculate my Vitalmx fantasy score. I ended up going to the Vitalmx links thread and clicking on a link.

RichieW13 wrote:
The points standings are a nightmare.   Here's a snippet from page 2 SX after Denver:  They don't carry over the rider names on the first column of...

The points standings are a nightmare.  

 

Here's a snippet from page 2 SX after Denver:

 

Screenshot 2025-06-04 145112

 

They don't carry over the rider names on the first column of each row from the first page.  Joey Savatgy is in 12th place.  So you have to count down 12 rows to see his points the last few rounds.  Then you see an "N/A" in the row above him and you want to know who that is?  Well, you have to go back up to page 1 to figure that out.

Yeah these are criminal.
 

By the way guys, this is the NEW page for live timing during all the SX and MX/SMX rounds: https://live.supercrosslive.com/

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snillum wrote:
Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

image 1703
Mavetism wrote:

Hopefully they add all the good stuff from the old sites again in the future, until then they kinda suck in comparison sadly.

I think this is an example of a company hiring some web designers to "modernize" their website, and the web designers decide to add a bunch of fancy effects to the website thinking it will look cool.  They try to make the site a little more usable for mobile devices.  But instead, it actually decreases the functionality of the website.  


It's cool that I can click Jett Lawrence's name, and get some lap details:

Screenshot 2025-06-05 091726.png?VersionId=V4n0cxts

 

But the pop-up format and overuse of white space makes it very difficult to compare these numbers against anything else.  And that's on a desktop.  On a mobile it's even worse.  It's cool I can see Jett's segment times in Lap 1.  But I have to scroll up and down my screen to compare to other laps.   

And that lap chart on the right is cool.  But I have to do a SIDE SCROLL to see the whole thing. 

I think it's great that this data is available by clicking on a rider's name.  But there should be other sections of the website specifically dedicated to this information, that makes it easier to compare riders and laps.  Like they used to have on the legacy format.  Look how easy this is to compare Sexton's segments throughout the moto.  And it's easier if I want to compare Sexton and Plessinger.  I still have to scroll around if I want to compare Sexton and somebody who is on another page of the PDF.  But still easier than the new system.

Screenshot 2025-06-05 092307

Since they seem to have all the data in a linked database, they should be able to provide more tools.  We should be able to click a few different riders and then choose for lap comparisons between them.  Or segment comparisons.  Or sort all riders in a certain segment, etc.

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snillum wrote:
Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

Is there a way to see a nice, condensed lap chart of multiple riders like the image below which was from the old website?  

image 1703
Mavetism wrote:

Hopefully they add all the good stuff from the old sites again in the future, until then they kinda suck in comparison sadly.

RichieW13 wrote:
I think this is an example of a company hiring some web designers to "modernize" their website, and the web designers decide to add a bunch...

I think this is an example of a company hiring some web designers to "modernize" their website, and the web designers decide to add a bunch of fancy effects to the website thinking it will look cool.  They try to make the site a little more usable for mobile devices.  But instead, it actually decreases the functionality of the website.  


It's cool that I can click Jett Lawrence's name, and get some lap details:

Screenshot 2025-06-05 091726.png?VersionId=V4n0cxts

 

But the pop-up format and overuse of white space makes it very difficult to compare these numbers against anything else.  And that's on a desktop.  On a mobile it's even worse.  It's cool I can see Jett's segment times in Lap 1.  But I have to scroll up and down my screen to compare to other laps.   

And that lap chart on the right is cool.  But I have to do a SIDE SCROLL to see the whole thing. 

I think it's great that this data is available by clicking on a rider's name.  But there should be other sections of the website specifically dedicated to this information, that makes it easier to compare riders and laps.  Like they used to have on the legacy format.  Look how easy this is to compare Sexton's segments throughout the moto.  And it's easier if I want to compare Sexton and Plessinger.  I still have to scroll around if I want to compare Sexton and somebody who is on another page of the PDF.  But still easier than the new system.

Screenshot 2025-06-05 092307

Since they seem to have all the data in a linked database, they should be able to provide more tools.  We should be able to click a few different riders and then choose for lap comparisons between them.  Or segment comparisons.  Or sort all riders in a certain segment, etc.

You are spot on! My company is literately doing the same thing right now by "modernizing" our tools to be online and usable on mobile. Now sales and customers are complaining that the old version was cleaner and easier to see and work through.. But hey! we now have modern font and a responsive design!

Hopefully MX Sports is planning on a "phase 2" to bring in more data that we like to see. 

 

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Another question: The old PDF style results used to note any penalties at the bottom.  Are the penalties posted anywhere now?  Supposedly Brad West was penalized at High Point, but I don't see it noted anywhere in the results.

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