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So what is wrong with the current AF1?

I know it is getting old, and Boeing shit the bed getting its replacement completed, but why can't they just keep using the current AF1?

Kinda sketchy getting a hand me down from another Country to use as our Presidential plane. 

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5/12/2025 3:52pm

I as most Republicans ive heard voice theor opinions are sketchy at best on this. For all the reasons mentions so far. The but at the end of it everytime so far is how long will it be in service as AF1 and does it actually go to Trump once he's out of office as lib media is spinning it. 

So far it sounds like as mentioned by TG and LL it will be in US service for a while after trumps out and it will never be "HIS" plane. As long as that's clear, as long as DOD is good with the upfit and there's no tie to favors or back scratching that isn't in the people's best intrest. I'm OK more or less with it. But as people have said if there anything trumps "giving them" for it then that needs to be discussed and put to the front for the public. I think its dumb in our hyper partisan political system of the last 20 years but if our tax dollars  get spared from buying the plane to upfit it i would be interested.

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A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good at all. 

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People just listen to the Dem media and get all out of shape. 

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Coincidence...........

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A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good...

A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good at all. 

We probably already gave them billions through USAID to fund and educate Hamas on DEI and ensure that trans-Hamas men/women were given fair treatment under sharia law.

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A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good...

A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good at all. 

burn1986 wrote:
We probably already gave them billions through USAID to fund and educate Hamas on DEI and ensure that trans-Hamas men/women were given fair treatment under sharia...

We probably already gave them billions through USAID to fund and educate Hamas on DEI and ensure that trans-Hamas men/women were given fair treatment under sharia law.

Holy fuck dude your obsession with trans people is disturbing. 

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Y’all don’t think Trump’s legal team has already gone over this? Cmon man, use your brain a little.

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Coincidence...........

Coincidence...........

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The dude who has been a lifelong corrupt con man would never do something corrupt like this. Fake news. 

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Holy fuck dude your obsession with trans people is disturbing. 

Am I wrong? Go to the DOGE website and tell me if I’m wrong. 

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Coincidence...........

Coincidence...........

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The dude who has been a lifelong corrupt con man would never do something corrupt like this. Fake news. 

That’s just so stupid. That’s all you got bro? “He’s a con man.” What’s his con? If he’s a con man, then who is the real deal in all this? 

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Holy fuck dude your obsession with trans people is disturbing. 

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Am I wrong? Go to the DOGE website and tell me if I’m wrong. 

Dude who doesn’t trust any media says to trust the administration’s own reporting on what they’ve “saved”. Would you have trusted a report put out by the Biden Admin about how great they’re doing? If the answer to that is no, then you see the hypocrisy and the issue with your argument. 

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On the condition that it be released to the Trump Library at the end of his term…….

TeamGreen wrote:

Like the AF1s on display at Raegan Library and Boeing Museum? 

avidchimp wrote:
You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such...

You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such time as he no longer needs it. Then it will be "donated" to his library and written off as a tax deduction by the Trump Org.

This is a gift to Trump, plain and simple. Maybe it includes a laptop?

EDIT: The DoD angle just means it get refurbished on the taxpayer's dime.

No, it actually says the plane will be decommissioned…again, not nearly as scandalous as what you suggest…

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Dude who doesn’t trust any media says to trust the administration’s own reporting on what they’ve “saved”. Would you have trusted a report put out by...

Dude who doesn’t trust any media says to trust the administration’s own reporting on what they’ve “saved”. Would you have trusted a report put out by the Biden Admin about how great they’re doing? If the answer to that is no, then you see the hypocrisy and the issue with your argument. 

They never put anything out like that. Name me one thing like from Biden and we’ll look at it. 

There isn’t any. Why isn’t there any? 
 

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5/12/2025 4:22pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 4:23pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Like the AF1s on display at Raegan Library and Boeing Museum? 

avidchimp wrote:
You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such...

You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such time as he no longer needs it. Then it will be "donated" to his library and written off as a tax deduction by the Trump Org.

This is a gift to Trump, plain and simple. Maybe it includes a laptop?

EDIT: The DoD angle just means it get refurbished on the taxpayer's dime.

Brad460 wrote:

No, it actually says the plane will be decommissioned…again, not nearly as scandalous as what you suggest…

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

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avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

Because Trump didn’t get any guidance at all before accepting this? Do you think he didn’t consult any of his lawyers first? 🙄

Dear Lord

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Dude who doesn’t trust any media says to trust the administration’s own reporting on what they’ve “saved”. Would you have trusted a report put out by...

Dude who doesn’t trust any media says to trust the administration’s own reporting on what they’ve “saved”. Would you have trusted a report put out by the Biden Admin about how great they’re doing? If the answer to that is no, then you see the hypocrisy and the issue with your argument. 

burn1986 wrote:

They never put anything out like that. Name me one thing like from Biden and we’ll look at it. 

There isn’t any. Why isn’t there any? 
 

Can’t trust that fake news media account. “The Black Conservative”. Obvious bias. Anything unbiased?

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Can’t trust that fake news media account. “The Black Conservative”. Obvious bias. Anything unbiased?

What do you mean “trust”? I’m not fully trusting any of the media. But there are parts that make sense. You know, you can exercise a little discernment. 

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A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good...

A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good at all. 

Yeah, you idiot.

president Trump is now going to start arming Hamas and the Houthi rebels, fund Iran in order for them to get to their desired nuclear capabilities. 

 

You're such an ignorant dupe.

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A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good...

A country who houses Hamas gives POTUS a gift worth 400 million dollars. Glad to see many here see this for what it is. Not good at all. 

Yeah, you idiot.president Trump is now going to start arming Hamas and the Houthi rebels, fund Iran in order for them to get to their desired...

Yeah, you idiot.

president Trump is now going to start arming Hamas and the Houthi rebels, fund Iran in order for them to get to their desired nuclear capabilities. 

 

You're such an ignorant dupe.

You are so deep in the cult you can’t ever even disagree with one thing he does. It’s so pathetic for anyone in the world to live a life like you do. The projection is always strong with you as you say everyone who doesn’t think like you is a dupe or following the fake news media. That’s exactly what you’re doing.

Come on little boy prove me wrong. Tell me right now one thing your leader has done you disagree with. 

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France come get that statue of liberty..

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Can we please have a civil discussion? 

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avidchimp wrote:
You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such...

You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such time as he no longer needs it. Then it will be "donated" to his library and written off as a tax deduction by the Trump Org.

This is a gift to Trump, plain and simple. Maybe it includes a laptop?

EDIT: The DoD angle just means it get refurbished on the taxpayer's dime.

Brad460 wrote:

No, it actually says the plane will be decommissioned…again, not nearly as scandalous as what you suggest…

avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be no shortage of people on here trying to convince everyone that kicking babies is actually a good thing and the only reason you would think it's bad is because of TDS MSM Biden kicked a baby once too hunters laptop blah blah blah. 

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So what is wrong with the current AF1?I know it is getting old, and Boeing shit the bed getting its replacement completed, but why can't they...

So what is wrong with the current AF1?

I know it is getting old, and Boeing shit the bed getting its replacement completed, but why can't they just keep using the current AF1?

Kinda sketchy getting a hand me down from another Country to use as our Presidential plane. 

The current Air Force One's are the only 2 747-200Bs still in service, Iran Air retired the last passenger 747-200B in 2016.

Both planes are 40 years old, parts are scarce.

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Brad460 wrote:

No, it actually says the plane will be decommissioned…again, not nearly as scandalous as what you suggest…

avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

truck wrote:
Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be...

Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be no shortage of people on here trying to convince everyone that kicking babies is actually a good thing and the only reason you would think it's bad is because of TDS MSM Biden kicked a baby once too hunters laptop blah blah blah. 

It’s so baffling how many core conservative principles have been tossed out the window by people claiming to be conservative to support that man. 

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avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

truck wrote:
Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be...

Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be no shortage of people on here trying to convince everyone that kicking babies is actually a good thing and the only reason you would think it's bad is because of TDS MSM Biden kicked a baby once too hunters laptop blah blah blah. 

It’s so baffling how many core conservative principles have been tossed out the window by people claiming to be conservative to support that man. 

Yep. There is no conservative party in the US anymore. There's raging liberals and trumpists.

The raging liberals are wrong on nearly everything but at least they can still point to a few guiding principles they hold to. 

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I thought this was about shoes... 

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Brad460 wrote:

No, it actually says the plane will be decommissioned…again, not nearly as scandalous as what you suggest…

avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

truck wrote:
Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be...

Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be no shortage of people on here trying to convince everyone that kicking babies is actually a good thing and the only reason you would think it's bad is because of TDS MSM Biden kicked a baby once too hunters laptop blah blah blah. 

And if Trump cured cancer tomorrow, their would be no shortage of liberals saying it’s a bad thing, and anyone that thinks it’s a good thing is a racist maga sheep.,,the double standard works both ways…

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avidchimp wrote:
It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over...

It's all conjecture without knowing the actual details. I don't care who you are or what administration is in power, a M.E. country just handing over an A/C worth north of $750 million "just because" looks shady as hell.

truck wrote:
Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be...

Baffling that this has to be explained to people, but if tomorrow Trump announced that he's going to start kicking babies for sport there would be no shortage of people on here trying to convince everyone that kicking babies is actually a good thing and the only reason you would think it's bad is because of TDS MSM Biden kicked a baby once too hunters laptop blah blah blah. 

Titan1 wrote:
And if Trump cured cancer tomorrow, their would be no shortage of liberals saying it’s a bad thing, and anyone that thinks it’s a good thing...

And if Trump cured cancer tomorrow, their would be no shortage of liberals saying it’s a bad thing, and anyone that thinks it’s a good thing is a racist maga sheep.,,the double standard works both ways…

Definitely does. Zealots on both sides are unhinged. I don't stress about the left zealots as much because I never had any common ground with them and expected nothing of them. It's disappointing to me that many people who are in many ways like minded have given up so much to support one personality, and that's why I tend to get more frustrated with the blind support of him. Conservatives used to be the principled ones and those principles were ones I believed in. Many of the people who used to agree with me on principled issues have tossed all of that aside to support one guy who by any objective measure is not someone to be admired. Hopefully people will recommit to those principles when they realize they've been conned but I'm not confident it will ever happen. 

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