Latest executive order eliminating environmental regulation

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4/16/2025 6:42am

The only thing we need to be concerned with about this, is the possibility of Honda releasing another 2-stroke.

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burn1986 wrote:

The only thing we need to be concerned with about this, is the possibility of Honda releasing another 2-stroke.

Make 2-strokes Great Again!

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4/16/2025 10:38am

I wonder how much a Bald Eagle stamp will be.

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JimSharp wrote:
I’ll be quite honest, did you expect less from me, this is bullshit. I’m not a fan of the Birkenstock wearing, save the Arizona dung beetle...

I’ll be quite honest, did you expect less from me, this is bullshit. I’m not a fan of the Birkenstock wearing, save the Arizona dung beetle folks; but complete deregulation would also be a mess. Just go look at China’s brown air! Makes L.A. smog look like a clear mountain morning.

TeamGreen wrote:

Who’s talking about “complete deregulation”…? 

Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back. 

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4/16/2025 10:23pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2025 10:24pm
JimSharp wrote:
I’ll be quite honest, did you expect less from me, this is bullshit. I’m not a fan of the Birkenstock wearing, save the Arizona dung beetle...

I’ll be quite honest, did you expect less from me, this is bullshit. I’m not a fan of the Birkenstock wearing, save the Arizona dung beetle folks; but complete deregulation would also be a mess. Just go look at China’s brown air! Makes L.A. smog look like a clear mountain morning.

TeamGreen wrote:

Who’s talking about “complete deregulation”…? 

indy rider wrote:
Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back.  

Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back. 

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Musk doesn't have a conflict of interest in removing regulations...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/24/spacex-rocket-launch-delay-faa-00180730

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I'll just say this...if there's a dime to be made there are those that will gladly sacrifice any and every living thing to snatch it...including humanity.  I ain't joking.

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TeamGreen wrote:

Who’s talking about “complete deregulation”…? 

indy rider wrote:
Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back.  

Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back. 

image 1525

 

Musk doesn't have a conflict of interest in removing regulations...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/24/spacex-rocket-launch-delay-faa-00180730

The first things Elon and Doge did was gut USAID and the FAA, both of which had big investigations and fines currently leveled against him. Effectively ending the cases against him.

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indy rider wrote:
Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back.  

Nobody here today that I've seen but Elon did a few weeks back. 

image 1525

 

Musk doesn't have a conflict of interest in removing regulations...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/24/spacex-rocket-launch-delay-faa-00180730

indy rider wrote:
The first things Elon and Doge did was gut USAID and the FAA, both of which had big investigations and fines currently leveled against him. Effectively...

The first things Elon and Doge did was gut USAID and the FAA, both of which had big investigations and fines currently leveled against him. Effectively ending the cases against him.

The FAA was gutted? Really? 

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Musk doesn't have a conflict of interest in removing regulations...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/24/spacex-rocket-launch-delay-faa-00180730

indy rider wrote:
The first things Elon and Doge did was gut USAID and the FAA, both of which had big investigations and fines currently leveled against him. Effectively...

The first things Elon and Doge did was gut USAID and the FAA, both of which had big investigations and fines currently leveled against him. Effectively ending the cases against him.

TeamGreen wrote:

The FAA was gutted? Really? 

Shit!

I gotta start watching the news more.

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4/17/2025 4:42pm
Titan1 wrote:
Except those big bad billionaires control the politicians…or at least that’s what the left (AOC, Sanders, etc.) preaches at the top of their lungs…so what’s the...

Except those big bad billionaires control the politicians…or at least that’s what the left (AOC, Sanders, etc.) preaches at the top of their lungs…so what’s the point?  Or do you only believe billionaires control the politicians when it’s convenient and aligned with your personal biases?

But I digress, In this day and age, no business could get away with dumping waste into the water (or otherwise blatantly polluting the environment)…they’d be publicly shamed, and cancel culture would hurt them.  I’d much rather be able to choose to not do business with an environmentally irresponsible company, and let capitalism work, than rely on Uncle Sam to do it for me (I don’t want the government to have that much power.  Further, nobody in America is going to be a slave to any employer (the working class won’t get exploited)…we are to transient these days….100 years ago, the big bad boss at the factory or mine in town (who employed 95% of the population) they could work people into the ground and treat them like crap and the people had no choice but to work there and suffer.  Not any more. We change jobs to often and are much more willing (because it’s so much easier) to relocate out of town/state for work.  Companies have to treat their employees better today, because they will leave if they don’t (the government doesn’t need to regulate that).

Your perspective and examples are based way to far in the past…they aren’t as relevant in todays world.

Every CEO I know has the goal of growing their business…that means as the company profits increase they want to expand their business..,this means hiring more people…so hypothetically, if you take away all regulations, and it increases their profitability not only would it increase their tax burden-more profit more taxes (to the benefit of the country) but that ceo would also look to expand and grow the business by hiring more people.  So it DOES trickle down. 


With all of that said, I’m not opposed to SOME regulation…but the government has gotten way out of hand, and the red tape and feeling the need to regulate common sense, has run amuck…and it’s hurting our economy and our ability to compete on the world stage….its time to roll some of those regulations back….

Titan, with all due respect you are wrong. The American consumer does not care about blatant pollution, the mainstream media will not mention it at all, and the Paris Climate Accord gives it free pass. MADE IN CHINA

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4/17/2025 5:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2025 5:35pm

Rereading this, I am taking it as it is indeed complete deregulation/erasure of the regulations listed, not rolling back any more recent additions to them as some were insinuating. Once again, please feel free to point out something I'm misinterpreting. 

(E) seems to me to say that when they mention these regulations, they're talking about every single piece of it. Does it mean the statute remains as a law, but contains nothing in it? Not seeing anything about specific targeting, just "zero based regulation"

Sec2.  Definitions.  For the purposes of this order:
(a)  “Conditional Sunset Date” means the date a regulation will cease to be effective and be removed from the Code of Federal Regulations, if the agency does not extend the Sunset Date pursuant to section 4(d) of this order.
(b)  “Covered Agency” means one of the agencies listed in section 3(a) of this order.
(c)  “Covered Regulation” means a regulation issued in whole or in part pursuant to a statutory authority listed in sections 3(b)-(j) of this order. 
(d)  “DOGE Team Lead” means the leader of the DOGE Team at each agency as described in Executive Order 14158.
(e)  “Regulation” means each part, subpart, or individual provision of the Code of Federal Regulations promulgated under an agency rule as defined in 5 U.S.C. 551(4).

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4/17/2025 5:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2025 5:33pm

The statutes mentioned involving biology.

(i)  For the FWS, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:

(i)     the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act;

(ii)    the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918;

(iii)   the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act of 1934;

(iv)    the Anadromous Fish Conservation Act of 1965;    

(v)     the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972;

(vi)    the Endangered Species Act of 1973;

(vii)   the Magnuson–Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976; and

(viii)  the Coastal Barrier Resources Act of 1982.

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