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Historically, any drug or substance hes been difficult to control the supply and demand of.
There’s a lot to cover in just that one issue…The War on Drugs…
Distribution of Heroin…Cocaine…etc & the concept of “Schedule 1 Drugs”…just for starters…are at the heart of the matter.
This is turning out to be an awesome thread. I get the feeling there are a few of us that have lost family to drugs and addiction.
For me, and this is just me…NOT meant to reflect on ANYONE-ELSE…I’ve had to “pull my head out” on the matter of addiction. I’ve seen extremely brave intelligent and wonderful people deal with addiction. Some of you may know of returning warfighters or top-shelf athletes and the like that have become addicted and have had the hardest time shaking it.
I’ve come to the conclusion that I really, really, really have to leave my angsts, disappointment and heartbreak out of it and learn to treat it like a “science problem”. I focus on the cause and effect and let that bring me towards thinking about solutions. And, trust me, while I do feel better about how I’m learning to handle it…I’d feel a helluva lot better if I felt like I could see some legit solutions…solutions that our government could implement.
Michael Schellenberger has done some writing on the issue. It’s pretty interesting as its focused on things from his well informed perspective, in the aforementioned manner that I’m learning to use. From rehabilitation to…yes, even some incarceration…to deal with the drugs & related homelessness of California.
One thing that he’s pretty damn good about: NOT allowing himself to get drawn into outlawing poverty. That’s where some people seem to go and that’s just crazy…to me.
Between addiction and homelessness…there’s a lot of people that simply need help; and, there will be some that don’t want help…won’t accept help. Schellenberger does a pretty impressive job dealing with those subjects. I’m not saying he’s got all the answers…but, he provides a really good reference point for me.
Again…this is a fucking epic thread 👍🏼
you ever wonder if our government poisons the supply to do away with the addicts?
that is exactly what they let happen during prohibition
Did the U.S. Government Purposely Poison 10,000 Americans During Prohibition? | Snopes.com
I quit doing meth and smoking pot in the very early 90's, but as I sit here brewing a batch of Belgian Blonde, I don't have an opinion on drinking.
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Here the Canadian take on fentanyl. Government is complicit, with its enabling policies. Enabling users more use of the drug, and selling the free government supplied drugs, for harder currencies like fentanyl Drugs.
https://youtu.be/aoBEyJu3ctA?si=xl_N2j1D8IVLD2__
I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to believe the government is the supplier, or at the very least complicit in the supply. We know for fact that the cia assassinated and overthrew governments to control the drug trade in the 70’s and 80’s. I think one would have to be pretty naive to think that’s not still the case to a large extent.
The correlation between the afghan invasion and the prescription opiate epidemic in the early 2000’s is a staggering coincidence
and now with fentanyl we’re talking about drugs being manufactured on a industrial scale. Fentanyl is completely synthetic. It’s made in laboratories. Our government/ the cia has released documents admitting their involvement and control of the heroin and cocaine supply in the past. Why anyone would think that they’ve just decided to get out of this very profitable business is beyond me.
Congrats on coming clean in the 90's. Never tried meth and never will but I have heard that it is not easy to get off of.
Now, what is Belgium Blonde?
Beer/Light Ale.
It's going to be about 6%.
It's a light colored ale. We used a pils malt, Kent Goldings hops, and a Saison yeast.
We had recently brewed a couple of big Belgians which are very good, but at 8 and 10.5%, you can only have a couple . So we made more of a session beer.
Tasty!
I think most of the prescription meds were opioids, not natural opiates. Some may have had some small amounts of natural compounds, but I’m pretty sure that the vast majority that the Sacklers and their ilk were poisoning people with were synthetic drugs.
Worked in downtown Seattle yesterday. Tents pitched right on sidewalks throughout it. I pulled up to a light, looked over at a tent with the flap/door open only to see a person inside it shooting up 💉
How is this ok? People used to visit Pikes Market as a Tourist destination. Now, it’s just a homeless shit hole.
I went as a tourist to Seattle in 2014 and I remember being pretty shocked at the amount of homeless people and clearly mentally ill people wondering the streets.
I don’t exactly live in the land of milk and honey and we have our own issues with drugs, alcohol and homelessness but the last place I saw anything that bad was in Kenya.
Sad that it sounds like it’s got worse and not better.
I’ve been working in the area since 08’.
It’s continued to get worse throughout the years.
Store owners in the area have the homeless setting up at their storefronts.
I have family from other parts of the US that have come to visit. Wanting to see Seattle. It’s like well, if you want to walk around, get asked for change, smell piss the whole time and, see people hunched over with their pants around their ankles, let’s go.
Is there any hope for a fentanyl zombie? I mean if they were to get clean aren't they pretty much fried mentally?
Fentanyl, you mean the same stuff my neighbor has been getting prescribed for chronic pain for 5 years? I swear I remember her saying the fentanyl patches she gets were safer than the OxyContin she used to take.
My dad at 87 years old was on a slow drip of Fentanyl in his last few days before he died at hospital as a way to deal with the horrible pain he felt as a result of bone disease and his spine collapsing. The pain was just so horrific.
It was a life changing thing watching mom make the decisions she did, and the strength she showed in those last few days to end dads suffering.
Hey Eddy, I'm on a hyjacked account right now because I'm servin a 20 year ban on vital, so I can't post vids. Can you please post Black Flag "rise above' live vid where he all tuned up. Thanks, oldblood.
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Dam 20 years... LOL
Taxing illegal fentanyl should definitely do the trick
It's not taxing the drug itself, it's basically fining Canada based on the value of the drug they allow to cross the US border. The intention is to create an incentive for Canada to do better with enforcement.
Taxing Americans on things sold to us by Canada so Americans maybe buy less stuff from Canada so Canada maybe reduces fentanyl crossing the northern border by some arbitrary difficult to track metric seems like an awful inefficient way of addressing the problem, but that's government for ya.
Fentanyl at the northern border accounts for a very small amount of fentanyl trafficked into the US in the first place.
How much get's through from the Canadian border (land .air and sea crossings) that wasn't seized? That's the real question.
Just looking at seizure numbers isn't going to tell us anything in regards how much doesn't get stopped with bullet proof methods the smugglers use. What they've confiscated so far may just be a very little amount in regards to what is getting through from the Canadian methods.
That's why it's an arbitrary difficult to track metric with no real end point.
Did he ever get his mic back?
Hey, Dipshit right above me with, childhood friends who sell fentanyl as you’ve said.
Why do you erase your posts after I call you out?
Wanna talk about it?
No
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Awwwww. Poor baby.
I was a libtard in our first exchange (far from it).
Come on Candy land. You puffed your chest out trying to flex your associations. Let’s talk about your buddies selling fentanyl in the homeless camps like “You said”..
Erased once again…..
True its miniscule when compared to mexico, but it seems to be increasing
If you are a border state with canada, it may have a larger effect on your area
Trump is cracking down on mexico as well
Why wont canada help its neighbor, who they cite as such a great ally, in cracking down on fentanyl production and trafficking? Seems like a small ask to help one of your "greatest allies," instead opting for tariffs(which are balancing the tariffs they impose on the US already) to be imposed on them, and then for them to apply counter tariffs.
Doesnt seem very neighborly of them to not help with this issue.
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