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How is it that Webster and Beaton can continuously win races by huge margins. Moto 1 on the weekend at Rd 1 of Aussie Championships and Webster got the win over Beaton by 1 sec. 3rd was over a minute behind and they are really good riders. Are Webster & Beaton just that much better - I think so.
Moto 2 was shaping up to be just as good until Webster caught a rock and set sail ending his moto. I believe his bike was too bent to remount a challenge.
Webster and Beaton are international calibre riders, the other guys not so much.
But as they say; a rising tide lifts all boats. At least I hope so.
I'm hoping Duffy can get back to his speed and contend with these guys too.
Serious question op, are you websters dad? The rose coloured glasses are something else. He completely yardsaled through a rough section pushing too hard… like he has done for 12 years. The “good” riders are 45 year old Gibbs, Luke ‘crash out’ Clout and Crawford who is too busy sniffing around the wmx trucks to do much of anything. Privateer dudes made most of the establishment look pretty bad on the weekend so putting a minute on 3rd, who also crashed is hardly brag worthy.
Webster and Beaton are both world level riders, they also both train at and across the road from Wonthaggi very regularly. Purvis who finished 3rd in Moto 1 has broken ribs.
I would expect the gap to not be over a minute at the next rounds.
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The level in Australia isn't as good as it use to be.
Same for women's class, Charli winning by a minute is embarrassing for everyone
The level "IN" Australia isn't what it used to be, but the level of Australian riders is right up there. A lot of the young up and coming guys seem to head to the states or Europe before they even get to mx1 in oz. The pathways to make it internationally are becoming easier so the domestic series are being watered down because a lot of the talented fast guys aren't there
Are you forgetting Beaton raced in Europe in Mx2 for a few years and Webster has shown how fast he really is every time he's gone overseas. Those 2 are just on another level. Let's just hope Regan Duffy can get back to where he was because he was easily the fastest rider in Aus.
Damn, mate, who hurt you? Webster & Beaton could crash three times and still finish ahead of half the field. Yeah, Webster pushed hard and went down, but that’s racing. But sure, tell me more about how the everyone else is setting the world on fire.
Look out for Purvis once he is healthy.
Crawford is that rider that has learned himself such a smooth style that he doesn't need to be the fittest. Because where Jed and Kyle attack the track and go full out, he just creates speed with his smooth style. Pity he doesn't have that Aussie hard working mentality. Besides that he's a complaining cry baby if you compare him with Jed Beaton. The first season Beaton raced in Europe he raced on an underpowered Honda and the team was so bad organized that his teammate already left before race 1 but Jed showed his resilience. First season Nathan raced here, he was in Livia Lancelot/Gariboldi Honda team with an underpowered Honda but decent team but he complained about everything. His Aussie teammate showed more resilience but I forgot his name it sounded polish or something.
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Nobody hurt me it was just my current appraisal with a side of comedy of the current mx1 state. Your agreeing with my point, Beaton could fall down 3 times and still win and Webster has proven for 12 years now he can go really fast and crash… This is due to the very underwhelming pool of riders currently in MX1 who are either too old or too crashy not some unworldly level those two have achieved.
Didn't dean Ferris beat beat beaton on a Stock yamaha in 23 for the championship
Ferris Was around 32 years of age.
Duffy n Todd r promising talents.
You might be in the minority in thinking that Beaton & Webster aren’t world-class, just like Connelly & Cannon are too. Their talent speaks for itself. Also, repeatedly bringing up Webster’s crashes ( every top rider crashes) doesn’t change the fact that he’s won two National senior titles, secured a couple of top 10s in AMA, and won MXON—achievements that are rather "worldly". I'll leave it at that!
Like I asked originally are you Kyle’s dad? This seems very personal for you. They have both raced internationally, I have never said otherwise but the talent pool is definitely lacking here in mx1 making their performance look better than it is. Ferris came out of retirement and beat both Beaton and Webster out of a van on a stock Yamaha. No disrespect to Metty but he was battling with the top 5 at 40 years old well and truly past he’s prime. Webster has 2 domestic titles in 12 years of racing! He is the definition of crash or win I don’t care how much talent is there facts are facts. Even mxon he crashed in 2 of the 3 motos after good starts.
Yep. I look forward to see him progress as the year goes on. I think he has the potential to be at their pace before to long.
The Sniffin around the WMX truck is savage 😂😂
And no I'm not his dad, it's not anything personal, don't even know him personally - just a fan. You seem to be the one that has a problem with him so perhaps it's personal to you bud.
Maté you’re being a straight up wanker.
As for bagging out Webster for crashing so much in previous years when he’s the defending champion; are you trying to compete for the worst takes of the week?
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Dunno what he expected riding a Honda, even the Geico Hondas were underpowered lol
I answered the original question, severe lack of depth and Webster riding over his head. The defending champ made an unforced error and cartwheeled down the track in moto 2 much like he has done consistently over his career. Sorry the truth bothers you but I guess you can call me more names?
Wilson Todd will take some time to get back to his known speed after his nasty foot injury.
Gibbsy is the aussie Dungey, consistently within top 5 throughout the season.
Crawford will have his brain fart moments, he is quick but lacks consistency.
I would love to see Duffy back to his old speed but it'll take some time for him to gain confidence again.
The title will be between Webster and Beaton again but that crash by Webster will come back to haunt him.
MX2 i can see Connonly winning every moto this year, no one in that class is on his level unfortunately and same for Charli in females.
Webster riding over his head - now we know you have no idea what you are talking about
Be interesting to see where Connolly goes next year, does yarrive give him a wsx or ama chance? he was pretty good in aus sx last year for his first supercross series ,
Would be so cool if they took Connolly to some AMA outdoors this year. He clearly has the speed to be a world class talent.
Nah
I would like to think he would go stateside and do a full year for Yarrive or on another team
I haven't looked at this years line up, But :
For the last few years our top ten, in at least the 450 class ,has had a Majority of riders that have OS Racing experience - several of them, at the Highest of levels.
A far cry from my generation (eons ago) in MX.
That 2 riders are dominating - clearing the field - it happens in All racing, all around the World, at times. It's Nothing unusual.
The hope, always, is that the other riders will step up / work harder, to narrow the gap, instead of just 'sitting back', so to speak.
That sort of thing - 'sitting back' and remaining at a comfortable level - happens a fair bit, especially if an athlete can still make a comfortable living. I'm not sure how much that theory applies here in OZ, as I have no idea how many, if 'many' at all, are Not having to work at other jobs between races.
I'm going to try my best to get to Appin in a few weeks time, for an OZ MX round. I haven't been there in Yonks - the place was supposed to have been closed for housing in the 80s - my club was continuously having MX and Enduro ( think GNCC style, not time keeping) events there, announcing them being "Probably The Last Race Ever At Appin" . Yet, it's still there, and that's a Bloody Good Thing!
He did the china or Indonesia round of mxgp mx2 and got smoked. Unless he had a bike problem
Yeah you answered the question, with your opinion, that doesn’t make it fact.
The OP brought up a legitimate subject and asked reasonable questions, then you came in full of attitude and went on the attack and gave some bad takes. That’s why I called you a wanker, and I’ll stand by that.
It seems you are emotionally attached to what is otherwise an innocuous subject? What’s the deal?
So Webster didn’t cartwheel all of his own accord? I actually have no problem with him he’s a nice guy, ive met and raced him a few times however I’m objective enough to look at his body of work and call a spade a spade. I have no emotional connection to the situation other than old Syd fan boying over Kyle anytime he posts on vital hence I legitimately asked if he was related to get a better understanding. Syds post actually prompted me to sign in to SBS to see what I had missed and boy was I disappointed by the overall level of racing. However, I will say big props to Levi Rogers! That kid made a lot of the usual names look pretty bad on a privateer Yamaha.
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