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Promoting Hamas and chanting “Death to America”…

Harassing Jewish Students…

Claiming October 7th was “justice”…

Threatening People & Destroying Property BASED ON YOUR POLITICAL Ideology?

And when those committing these acts are FUCKING GUESTS IN THE U.S.A….?

Uh, no. 

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This dude has been covering the civil disobedience at Trump Tower today.

 

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Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians...

Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians, they are not engaging in political discourse; they are aligning with pure evil. Foreign agitators who incite this should be deported immediately.  

Some claim this is a slippery slope or cry about moral equivalency, arguing the U.S. commits atrocities too. That’s nonsense. There is a vast difference between a nation enforcing its laws and a terrorist group butchering innocents for ideology. Equating the two is intellectual dishonesty at its worst.  

Universities already expel students for plagiarism and harassment—supporting terrorists is far worse. If you glorify terrorism, you don’t belong in an American institution. Expel them. Deport them. Shut it down.

I don’t fully disagree with you. However..The American government has most definitely murdered civilians under the guise of spreading/defending its ideology, both domestically and internationally. That’s...

I don’t fully disagree with you. However..

The American government has most definitely murdered civilians under the guise of spreading/defending its ideology, both domestically and internationally. That’s 100% dude. You would have to be extremely mentally limited to refute this. 

Who designates an organization a terrorist organization? Why could the Israeli government or Russian not be considered one? They kill civilians in the name of their religion/country/ideology. Why does the American government hold a monopoly on violence? 

Are you blindly nationalistic? Right and wrong I think is not so hard to perceive and in my opinion America has generally not been on the right side of things (just for the sake of argument for say the last 125 years). Please keep in mind, I am NOT saying our enemies during that time have been on the right side of things. I’m just asking; who decides right and wrong? 


I am not siding with hamas. They’re scum and frankly I think all Abrahamic religions are fucking useless. Jews want to extort and use you if you’re not Jewish. Christians want to enslave and then convert you if you’re not Christian. And Muslims just want to kill you if you don’t convert. All 3 Abrahamic, and all 3 are organized and for-profit organizations which are imo used to subvert and placate the masses. I don’t need religion to show me the way to God and especially not to tell me the only way to God is their way. So, once again, I am NOT siding with hamas but why does Israel get such a break? They’ve done exactly the same things and on a much bigger scale. Just because the American government backs them? 

I think these Pro-Palestinian protesters that are actually protesting are absolute morons. That being said, I don’t think it’s too far of a stretch to lump them in with all that BLM crap which at this point can pretty much undeniably be considered a governmental social engineering project devised by our government and its lead administrators ($$$), organized by state funded provocateurs, and ultimately carried out on the streets by morons. 

Had to say something to you tx. Your responses are generally pretty good but you can’t possibly be so naive and myopic to believe that absolute crap you just spewed in your post. 

You’re throwing out a mess of half-baked arguments to dodge the core issue. The question isn’t whether the U.S. has made mistakes in war. Every nation has blood on its hands. The question is whether students in America should be allowed to openly support terrorist organizations that target civilians. The answer is no.  

Who designates a terrorist organization? Governments do, based on clear criteria: groups that intentionally attack civilians, use indiscriminate violence, and pursue their goals through terror. Hamas, ISIS, and al-Qaeda fit this description. Israel and Russia, as governments, operate under the laws of war—whether you agree with their actions or not, they aren’t the same as terror groups that deliberately massacre innocents as a strategy.  

You claim America “holds a monopoly on violence.” That’s just edgy, conspiratorial nonsense. Every major power uses force—it’s how the world works. The difference is that America, despite its flaws, isn’t launching suicide bombers into schools or beheading aid workers on video. You want moral clarity? Here it is: Hamas slaughters civilians for ideology. America fights wars. Not the same thing.  

Your rant against religion is irrelevant, but since you went there, it’s lazy generalization. Not every Jew, Christian, or Muslim follows the worst stereotypes you listed. And no, Israel doesn’t get a “break” just because the U.S. backs them. They get a break because they’re not the ones targeting concerts and villages for slaughter.  

At least you acknowledge that these campus protesters are morons, but you can’t have it both ways. If they’re idiots manipulated by state-funded provocateurs, why defend their “right” to chant in favor of terrorists? Expel them. Clean house. The West shouldn’t tolerate useful idiots paving the way for our enemies.

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TXDirt wrote:
Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians...

Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians, they are not engaging in political discourse; they are aligning with pure evil. Foreign agitators who incite this should be deported immediately.  

Some claim this is a slippery slope or cry about moral equivalency, arguing the U.S. commits atrocities too. That’s nonsense. There is a vast difference between a nation enforcing its laws and a terrorist group butchering innocents for ideology. Equating the two is intellectual dishonesty at its worst.  

Universities already expel students for plagiarism and harassment—supporting terrorists is far worse. If you glorify terrorism, you don’t belong in an American institution. Expel them. Deport them. Shut it down.

Falcon wrote:
I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should...

I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. 

However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should NEVER be suppressed. Since apparently we extend constitutional protections to non-citizens, the rights to free speech and expression are included. Nobody has to agree with the speaker. 

I draw the line with inciting to violence. Also, I think the university should have the right to expel students and remove them from campus if they feel so inclined. Free speech doesn't mean you get to have a platform provided for you. 

 

You’re halfway there, but you’re still clinging to a technicality that doesn’t hold up. Yes, freedom of speech protects unpopular opinions—but supporting a terrorist organization isn’t just "something you or I don’t like." It’s an endorsement of violence and genocide. That’s not protected speech; it’s material support for terrorism, which is illegal under federal law 18 U.S. Code 2339B

Universities absolutely have the right to expel students who cross that line, and they should. Campuses aren’t public forums; they’re institutions with codes of conduct. If a student openly supported the KKK or ISIS, they’d be expelled without hesitation. So why should Hamas or any other terrorist group be different?  

You say you draw the line at incitement to violence. Good. But let’s be real—when students are chanting, “From the river to the sea,” celebrating attacks on civilians, and harassing Jewish students, that “is” incitement. Pretending otherwise is just a weak excuse to let it continue.  

You’re right that free speech doesn’t guarantee a platform. Now apply that logic fully—universities don’t have to tolerate terrorist sympathizers poisoning their campuses. Expel them.

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So protesting is illegal now? Or did they commit an actual crime? Honest question, I’ve only seen headlines at this point.  

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Seth,the thing here is that these people are protesting and supporting terrorist organizations. Thats a big problem. These guys are supporting Hamas. Send them home and...

Seth,the thing here is that these people are protesting and supporting terrorist organizations. Thats a big problem. These guys are supporting Hamas. Send them home and bill them for the deportation and flight.

I'm not a USA citizen and if I was there to study on a student Visa, I'd behave. I came to study, not get involved in protests.

 

Again, if they are peacefully protesting then nothing should be done by our government.  I fully agree that schools can and should push them off the property or expel students as needed (if they choose to) but the government shouldn't be discussing deportation due to peaceful protest.

Now, actual destruction of property or violence is another story and should have repercussions.

If we are arresting/deporting these people protesting then we get to jail or eliminate the "god hates fags" rejects who celebrate military deaths. 😇

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TXDirt wrote:
Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians...

Colleges must expel students who support terrorist organizations—no excuses, no debates. Free speech does not cover endorsing terrorism. If students chant for groups that slaughter civilians, they are not engaging in political discourse; they are aligning with pure evil. Foreign agitators who incite this should be deported immediately.  

Some claim this is a slippery slope or cry about moral equivalency, arguing the U.S. commits atrocities too. That’s nonsense. There is a vast difference between a nation enforcing its laws and a terrorist group butchering innocents for ideology. Equating the two is intellectual dishonesty at its worst.  

Universities already expel students for plagiarism and harassment—supporting terrorists is far worse. If you glorify terrorism, you don’t belong in an American institution. Expel them. Deport them. Shut it down.

Falcon wrote:
I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should...

I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. 

However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should NEVER be suppressed. Since apparently we extend constitutional protections to non-citizens, the rights to free speech and expression are included. Nobody has to agree with the speaker. 

I draw the line with inciting to violence. Also, I think the university should have the right to expel students and remove them from campus if they feel so inclined. Free speech doesn't mean you get to have a platform provided for you. 

 

TXDirt wrote:
You’re halfway there, but you’re still clinging to a technicality that doesn’t hold up. Yes, freedom of speech protects unpopular opinions—but supporting a terrorist organization isn’t...

You’re halfway there, but you’re still clinging to a technicality that doesn’t hold up. Yes, freedom of speech protects unpopular opinions—but supporting a terrorist organization isn’t just "something you or I don’t like." It’s an endorsement of violence and genocide. That’s not protected speech; it’s material support for terrorism, which is illegal under federal law 18 U.S. Code 2339B

Universities absolutely have the right to expel students who cross that line, and they should. Campuses aren’t public forums; they’re institutions with codes of conduct. If a student openly supported the KKK or ISIS, they’d be expelled without hesitation. So why should Hamas or any other terrorist group be different?  

You say you draw the line at incitement to violence. Good. But let’s be real—when students are chanting, “From the river to the sea,” celebrating attacks on civilians, and harassing Jewish students, that “is” incitement. Pretending otherwise is just a weak excuse to let it continue.  

You’re right that free speech doesn’t guarantee a platform. Now apply that logic fully—universities don’t have to tolerate terrorist sympathizers poisoning their campuses. Expel them.

I agree with some what you say, but the question is if the government can deport a legal resident for speech.

They shouldn't do that.

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Falcon wrote:
I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should...

I agree with you that supporting terrorism is reprehensible. 

However, freedom of speech includes freedom to say things that you or I don't like, and it should NEVER be suppressed. Since apparently we extend constitutional protections to non-citizens, the rights to free speech and expression are included. Nobody has to agree with the speaker. 

I draw the line with inciting to violence. Also, I think the university should have the right to expel students and remove them from campus if they feel so inclined. Free speech doesn't mean you get to have a platform provided for you. 

 

TXDirt wrote:
You’re halfway there, but you’re still clinging to a technicality that doesn’t hold up. Yes, freedom of speech protects unpopular opinions—but supporting a terrorist organization isn’t...

You’re halfway there, but you’re still clinging to a technicality that doesn’t hold up. Yes, freedom of speech protects unpopular opinions—but supporting a terrorist organization isn’t just "something you or I don’t like." It’s an endorsement of violence and genocide. That’s not protected speech; it’s material support for terrorism, which is illegal under federal law 18 U.S. Code 2339B

Universities absolutely have the right to expel students who cross that line, and they should. Campuses aren’t public forums; they’re institutions with codes of conduct. If a student openly supported the KKK or ISIS, they’d be expelled without hesitation. So why should Hamas or any other terrorist group be different?  

You say you draw the line at incitement to violence. Good. But let’s be real—when students are chanting, “From the river to the sea,” celebrating attacks on civilians, and harassing Jewish students, that “is” incitement. Pretending otherwise is just a weak excuse to let it continue.  

You’re right that free speech doesn’t guarantee a platform. Now apply that logic fully—universities don’t have to tolerate terrorist sympathizers poisoning their campuses. Expel them.

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I agree with some what you say, but the question is if the government can deport a legal resident for speech.

They shouldn't do that.

Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is a deportable offense, and that includes publicly advocating for a designated terrorist organization. If you’re here on a visa or green card and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. You don’t get to stay in this country while cheering for its enemies.  

The First Amendment protects speech from government punishment, not immigration consequences. The U.S. has every right to decide who gets to live here, and if you’re aligning yourself with terrorists, you should be sent packing. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

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Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians...

Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is a deportable offense, and that includes publicly advocating for a designated terrorist organization. If you’re here on a visa or green card and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. You don’t get to stay in this country while cheering for its enemies.  

The First Amendment protects speech from government punishment, not immigration consequences. The U.S. has every right to decide who gets to live here, and if you’re aligning yourself with terrorists, you should be sent packing. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

I'm not sure how deportation isn't a form of government punishment. 

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TXDirt wrote:
Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians...

Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is a deportable offense, and that includes publicly advocating for a designated terrorist organization. If you’re here on a visa or green card and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. You don’t get to stay in this country while cheering for its enemies.  

The First Amendment protects speech from government punishment, not immigration consequences. The U.S. has every right to decide who gets to live here, and if you’re aligning yourself with terrorists, you should be sent packing. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

I'm not sure how deportation isn't a form of government punishment. 

It is exactly that, a Government punishing someone for openly advocating support for a terrorist group.

Their punishment, which is eviction from the USA, is far less than the "punishment" that Hamas inflicts on any Jew- which is death.

So I guess they got off easy.

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TXDirt wrote:
Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians...

Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is a deportable offense, and that includes publicly advocating for a designated terrorist organization. If you’re here on a visa or green card and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. You don’t get to stay in this country while cheering for its enemies.  

The First Amendment protects speech from government punishment, not immigration consequences. The U.S. has every right to decide who gets to live here, and if you’re aligning yourself with terrorists, you should be sent packing. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

I'm not sure how deportation isn't a form of government punishment. 

AZ35 wrote:
It is exactly that, a Government punishing someone for openly advocating support for a terrorist group.Their punishment, which is eviction from the USA, is far less...

It is exactly that, a Government punishing someone for openly advocating support for a terrorist group.

Their punishment, which is eviction from the USA, is far less than the "punishment" that Hamas inflicts on any Jew- which is death.

So I guess they got off easy.

I have higher expectations for US human rights.

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TXDirt wrote:
Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians...

Wrong. The government absolutely can and should deport non-citizens who support terrorism. Being a legal resident isn’t a free pass to endorse groups that murder civilians. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is a deportable offense, and that includes publicly advocating for a designated terrorist organization. If you’re here on a visa or green card and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. You don’t get to stay in this country while cheering for its enemies.  

The First Amendment protects speech from government punishment, not immigration consequences. The U.S. has every right to decide who gets to live here, and if you’re aligning yourself with terrorists, you should be sent packing. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

I'm not sure how deportation isn't a form of government punishment. 

Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege when they openly support terrorists. It’s the same as if you invited someone into your home as a guest, and they started praising people who wanted to burn it down. You wouldn’t be “punishing” them by kicking them out—you’d be enforcing a basic standard: if you support those who wish harm on the place hosting you, you have no right to stay.  

The U.S. is not obligated to tolerate foreign nationals who endorse its enemies. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is grounds for deportation, and that includes publicly advocating for terrorist groups. If you’re in this country and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. No nation should be expected to keep people who side with those who would see it destroyed.  

This isn’t about free speech—it’s about allegiance. If you’re a citizen, you have constitutional protections. If you’re a foreign national, you’re here by privilege, not by right. And when you show that you align with terrorists, that privilege should be revoked immediately. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

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Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege...

Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege when they openly support terrorists. It’s the same as if you invited someone into your home as a guest, and they started praising people who wanted to burn it down. You wouldn’t be “punishing” them by kicking them out—you’d be enforcing a basic standard: if you support those who wish harm on the place hosting you, you have no right to stay.  

The U.S. is not obligated to tolerate foreign nationals who endorse its enemies. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is grounds for deportation, and that includes publicly advocating for terrorist groups. If you’re in this country and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. No nation should be expected to keep people who side with those who would see it destroyed.  

This isn’t about free speech—it’s about allegiance. If you’re a citizen, you have constitutional protections. If you’re a foreign national, you’re here by privilege, not by right. And when you show that you align with terrorists, that privilege should be revoked immediately. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

"This isn't about free speech, it's about allegiance."

Forced allegiance...

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TXDirt wrote:
Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege...

Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege when they openly support terrorists. It’s the same as if you invited someone into your home as a guest, and they started praising people who wanted to burn it down. You wouldn’t be “punishing” them by kicking them out—you’d be enforcing a basic standard: if you support those who wish harm on the place hosting you, you have no right to stay.  

The U.S. is not obligated to tolerate foreign nationals who endorse its enemies. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is grounds for deportation, and that includes publicly advocating for terrorist groups. If you’re in this country and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. No nation should be expected to keep people who side with those who would see it destroyed.  

This isn’t about free speech—it’s about allegiance. If you’re a citizen, you have constitutional protections. If you’re a foreign national, you’re here by privilege, not by right. And when you show that you align with terrorists, that privilege should be revoked immediately. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

"This isn't about free speech, it's about allegiance."

Forced allegiance...

No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in the U.S., you're a guest, not a co-owner. And guests don’t get to trash the house they were welcomed into and still expect a roof over their heads.  

Imagine inviting someone into your home, giving them food, shelter, and security—only for them to stand in your living room and praise the people who want to burn it down with your family inside. At that point, you don’t just ask them to leave—you throw them out and make sure they never step foot on your property again. That’s exactly how the U.S. should treat non-citizens who openly support terrorists.  

This isn’t “forced allegiance.” No one is demanding they love America. But if they stand on American soil and chant in favor of groups that murder our allies and civilians, they’ve made their choice. And the U.S. should respond accordingly—by slamming the door in their faces. You don’t reward betrayal with tolerance. You kick them out and lock the damn door behind them.

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Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege...

Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege when they openly support terrorists. It’s the same as if you invited someone into your home as a guest, and they started praising people who wanted to burn it down. You wouldn’t be “punishing” them by kicking them out—you’d be enforcing a basic standard: if you support those who wish harm on the place hosting you, you have no right to stay.  

The U.S. is not obligated to tolerate foreign nationals who endorse its enemies. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is grounds for deportation, and that includes publicly advocating for terrorist groups. If you’re in this country and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. No nation should be expected to keep people who side with those who would see it destroyed.  

This isn’t about free speech—it’s about allegiance. If you’re a citizen, you have constitutional protections. If you’re a foreign national, you’re here by privilege, not by right. And when you show that you align with terrorists, that privilege should be revoked immediately. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

"This isn't about free speech, it's about allegiance."

Forced allegiance...

TXDirt has nailed this every step of the way ......  Nobody is forcing that individual to be here,  he's a guest in our country, too bad if he gets sent packing.  Live and protest in the west bank.

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Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege...

Deportation isn’t punishment—it’s consequence. Being in the U.S. as a non-citizen is a privilege, not a right. The government isn’t punishing anyone by revoking that privilege when they openly support terrorists. It’s the same as if you invited someone into your home as a guest, and they started praising people who wanted to burn it down. You wouldn’t be “punishing” them by kicking them out—you’d be enforcing a basic standard: if you support those who wish harm on the place hosting you, you have no right to stay.  

The U.S. is not obligated to tolerate foreign nationals who endorse its enemies. The law is clear—material support for terrorism is grounds for deportation, and that includes publicly advocating for terrorist groups. If you’re in this country and you’re out chanting for Hamas, you’ve made it clear where your loyalties lie. No nation should be expected to keep people who side with those who would see it destroyed.  

This isn’t about free speech—it’s about allegiance. If you’re a citizen, you have constitutional protections. If you’re a foreign national, you’re here by privilege, not by right. And when you show that you align with terrorists, that privilege should be revoked immediately. America doesn’t need terrorist sympathizers—kick them out.

vet323 wrote:

"This isn't about free speech, it's about allegiance."

Forced allegiance...

TXDirt wrote:
No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in...

No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in the U.S., you're a guest, not a co-owner. And guests don’t get to trash the house they were welcomed into and still expect a roof over their heads.  

Imagine inviting someone into your home, giving them food, shelter, and security—only for them to stand in your living room and praise the people who want to burn it down with your family inside. At that point, you don’t just ask them to leave—you throw them out and make sure they never step foot on your property again. That’s exactly how the U.S. should treat non-citizens who openly support terrorists.  

This isn’t “forced allegiance.” No one is demanding they love America. But if they stand on American soil and chant in favor of groups that murder our allies and civilians, they’ve made their choice. And the U.S. should respond accordingly—by slamming the door in their faces. You don’t reward betrayal with tolerance. You kick them out and lock the damn door behind them.

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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"This isn't about free speech, it's about allegiance."

Forced allegiance...

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No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in...

No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in the U.S., you're a guest, not a co-owner. And guests don’t get to trash the house they were welcomed into and still expect a roof over their heads.  

Imagine inviting someone into your home, giving them food, shelter, and security—only for them to stand in your living room and praise the people who want to burn it down with your family inside. At that point, you don’t just ask them to leave—you throw them out and make sure they never step foot on your property again. That’s exactly how the U.S. should treat non-citizens who openly support terrorists.  

This isn’t “forced allegiance.” No one is demanding they love America. But if they stand on American soil and chant in favor of groups that murder our allies and civilians, they’ve made their choice. And the U.S. should respond accordingly—by slamming the door in their faces. You don’t reward betrayal with tolerance. You kick them out and lock the damn door behind them.

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"Do you think all Israelis should be deported? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

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TXDirt wrote:
No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in...

No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in the U.S., you're a guest, not a co-owner. And guests don’t get to trash the house they were welcomed into and still expect a roof over their heads.  

Imagine inviting someone into your home, giving them food, shelter, and security—only for them to stand in your living room and praise the people who want to burn it down with your family inside. At that point, you don’t just ask them to leave—you throw them out and make sure they never step foot on your property again. That’s exactly how the U.S. should treat non-citizens who openly support terrorists.  

This isn’t “forced allegiance.” No one is demanding they love America. But if they stand on American soil and chant in favor of groups that murder our allies and civilians, they’ve made their choice. And the U.S. should respond accordingly—by slamming the door in their faces. You don’t reward betrayal with tolerance. You kick them out and lock the damn door behind them.

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"Do you think all Israelis should be deported? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

I wasn't stating an opinion I was quoting yours...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

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TXDirt wrote:
No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in...

No one is forcing allegiance—you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians. If you're a foreign national in the U.S., you're a guest, not a co-owner. And guests don’t get to trash the house they were welcomed into and still expect a roof over their heads.  

Imagine inviting someone into your home, giving them food, shelter, and security—only for them to stand in your living room and praise the people who want to burn it down with your family inside. At that point, you don’t just ask them to leave—you throw them out and make sure they never step foot on your property again. That’s exactly how the U.S. should treat non-citizens who openly support terrorists.  

This isn’t “forced allegiance.” No one is demanding they love America. But if they stand on American soil and chant in favor of groups that murder our allies and civilians, they’ve made their choice. And the U.S. should respond accordingly—by slamming the door in their faces. You don’t reward betrayal with tolerance. You kick them out and lock the damn door behind them.

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"Do you think all Israelis should be deported? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

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"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"Do you think all Israelis should be deported? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

I wasn't stating an opinion I was quoting yours...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Nice try, but your pathetic attempt at a gotcha falls flat. You’re deliberately twisting words to equate a sovereign nation defending itself with a terrorist death cult that exists to massacre civilians. Israel isn’t rounding up families and executing them in their homes. Hamas does. Israel isn’t sending suicide bombers into markets or raping women as a war tactic. Hamas does. The difference is night and day, and pretending otherwise is either willful ignorance or flat-out terrorist apologism.  

You can cherry-pick reports and cry about “butchering civilians” all you want, but the reality is simple: If you’re in the U.S. and you publicly support a terrorist organization you should be deported immediately. No twisting, no pathetic false comparisons, no mental gymnastics will change that. Either you back civilization, or you back savages. If you’re dumb enough to defend the latter, you don’t belong here. Period.

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"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"Do you think all Israelis should be deported? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Do you think all Israelis should be deported? 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/lebanon-israeli-air-strikes-that-killed-at-least-49-civilians-further-evidence-of-war-crimes/

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

seth505 wrote:

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist flags and chanting in support of groups that butcher civilians, you’re part of the problem.  

This isn’t “just using their voice.” This isn’t “just holding up a sign.” It’s openly aligning with terrorists. It’s giving moral and political cover to groups that kidnap, rape, and execute innocent people. And if you’re too blind, too cowardly, or too brainwashed to admit that, then you’re either a fool or a sympathizer.  

Let’s get one thing straight—the U.S. is under zero obligation to tolerate foreign nationals who side with our enemies. Free speech doesn’t mean free residency. The First Amendment protects you from government punishment, not from consequences. If you’re not a citizen and you’re out in the streets screaming for Hamas, you have no business being in this country. Period.  

So spare me the whiny nonsense about “using their voice.” They’ve already made it clear where they stand. And if they stand with terrorists, then they can pack their bags and go live under the regimes they admire so much. America doesn’t need them, doesn’t want them, and shouldn’t tolerate them for one second longer.

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

seth505 wrote:

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

TXDirt wrote:
You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist...

You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist flags and chanting in support of groups that butcher civilians, you’re part of the problem.  

This isn’t “just using their voice.” This isn’t “just holding up a sign.” It’s openly aligning with terrorists. It’s giving moral and political cover to groups that kidnap, rape, and execute innocent people. And if you’re too blind, too cowardly, or too brainwashed to admit that, then you’re either a fool or a sympathizer.  

Let’s get one thing straight—the U.S. is under zero obligation to tolerate foreign nationals who side with our enemies. Free speech doesn’t mean free residency. The First Amendment protects you from government punishment, not from consequences. If you’re not a citizen and you’re out in the streets screaming for Hamas, you have no business being in this country. Period.  

So spare me the whiny nonsense about “using their voice.” They’ve already made it clear where they stand. And if they stand with terrorists, then they can pack their bags and go live under the regimes they admire so much. America doesn’t need them, doesn’t want them, and shouldn’t tolerate them for one second longer.

Just to be clear, are you condemning people who clearly support terrorism, people who just have a Palestinian flag (or a sign that says “I support Palestine”) or both?

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

I wasn't stating an opinion I was quoting yours...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

TXDirt wrote:
Nice try, but your pathetic attempt at a gotcha falls flat. You’re deliberately twisting words to equate a sovereign nation defending itself with a terrorist death...

Nice try, but your pathetic attempt at a gotcha falls flat. You’re deliberately twisting words to equate a sovereign nation defending itself with a terrorist death cult that exists to massacre civilians. Israel isn’t rounding up families and executing them in their homes. Hamas does. Israel isn’t sending suicide bombers into markets or raping women as a war tactic. Hamas does. The difference is night and day, and pretending otherwise is either willful ignorance or flat-out terrorist apologism.  

You can cherry-pick reports and cry about “butchering civilians” all you want, but the reality is simple: If you’re in the U.S. and you publicly support a terrorist organization you should be deported immediately. No twisting, no pathetic false comparisons, no mental gymnastics will change that. Either you back civilization, or you back savages. If you’re dumb enough to defend the latter, you don’t belong here. Period.

How am I twisting your words when I quoted you directly...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Hamas kills civilians, Israel kills civilians, one group does it face to face, the other group does it from 30,000ft, both achieve the same result, so why do you differentiate?

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Two people disagreeing with TXDirt?

Do you realize how difficult it's going to be to draft the next movie script?

 

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Just to be clear, are you condemning people who clearly support terrorism, people who just have a Palestinian flag (or a sign that says “I support...

Just to be clear, are you condemning people who clearly support terrorism, people who just have a Palestinian flag (or a sign that says “I support Palestine”) or both?

Palestine doesn’t exist, so there’s that.

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TXDirt wrote:
Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing...

Trying to equate military conflict with terrorism is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous. It’s the kind of moral rot that lets extremists off the hook while smearing those who actually fight to defend innocent lives. And if you’re peddling that garbage, you’re part of the problem.

seth505 wrote:

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

TXDirt wrote:
You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist...

You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist flags and chanting in support of groups that butcher civilians, you’re part of the problem.  

This isn’t “just using their voice.” This isn’t “just holding up a sign.” It’s openly aligning with terrorists. It’s giving moral and political cover to groups that kidnap, rape, and execute innocent people. And if you’re too blind, too cowardly, or too brainwashed to admit that, then you’re either a fool or a sympathizer.  

Let’s get one thing straight—the U.S. is under zero obligation to tolerate foreign nationals who side with our enemies. Free speech doesn’t mean free residency. The First Amendment protects you from government punishment, not from consequences. If you’re not a citizen and you’re out in the streets screaming for Hamas, you have no business being in this country. Period.  

So spare me the whiny nonsense about “using their voice.” They’ve already made it clear where they stand. And if they stand with terrorists, then they can pack their bags and go live under the regimes they admire so much. America doesn’t need them, doesn’t want them, and shouldn’t tolerate them for one second longer.

I think it’s hard to say “no punishments but there are consequences” when the consequence is a punishment



You drove drunk, we’re not going to punish you, but the consequence is 10 years in jail, again, you aren’t being punished 

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Now you've done it.

Two people disagreeing with TXDirt?

Do you realize how difficult it's going to be to draft the next movie script?

 

Only if you use the holacaust to make a cheap political point because you don’t like Trump. Yeah, you will get dunked on.

Disagreeing is good and healthy. No problem from me.

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seth505 wrote:

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

TXDirt wrote:
You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist...

You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist flags and chanting in support of groups that butcher civilians, you’re part of the problem.  

This isn’t “just using their voice.” This isn’t “just holding up a sign.” It’s openly aligning with terrorists. It’s giving moral and political cover to groups that kidnap, rape, and execute innocent people. And if you’re too blind, too cowardly, or too brainwashed to admit that, then you’re either a fool or a sympathizer.  

Let’s get one thing straight—the U.S. is under zero obligation to tolerate foreign nationals who side with our enemies. Free speech doesn’t mean free residency. The First Amendment protects you from government punishment, not from consequences. If you’re not a citizen and you’re out in the streets screaming for Hamas, you have no business being in this country. Period.  

So spare me the whiny nonsense about “using their voice.” They’ve already made it clear where they stand. And if they stand with terrorists, then they can pack their bags and go live under the regimes they admire so much. America doesn’t need them, doesn’t want them, and shouldn’t tolerate them for one second longer.

seth505 wrote:
Just to be clear, are you condemning people who clearly support terrorism, people who just have a Palestinian flag (or a sign that says “I support...

Just to be clear, are you condemning people who clearly support terrorism, people who just have a Palestinian flag (or a sign that says “I support Palestine”) or both?

Spare me the fake ignorance. You’re not arguing in good faith—you’re just pretending not to understand the difference between “supporting Palestinian civilians” and “openly backing terrorists”. It’s a tired, transparent tactic meant to stall and muddy the waters, but it won’t work.  

I’ve been crystal clear. If you’re out there chanting for Hamas, celebrating terrorist attacks, or calling for the extermination of Jews, you don’t belong in this country—period. This isn’t about some vague “support for Palestine.” It’s about people openly siding with terrorists. And if they’re not citizens, they should be immediately deported.  

No amount of fake confusion changes the reality: if you stand with terrorists, you stand against civilization. And if you stand against civilization, you have no place in America. So stop pretending you don’t get it—because everyone else does.

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seth505 wrote:

You’re calling that dangerous and moral rot while you advocate for deporting people that use their voice and/or hold up a sign.    

TXDirt wrote:
You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist...

You’re damn right I’m calling it dangerous moral rot—because it is. And if you’re seriously defending people who stand in the streets of America waving terrorist flags and chanting in support of groups that butcher civilians, you’re part of the problem.  

This isn’t “just using their voice.” This isn’t “just holding up a sign.” It’s openly aligning with terrorists. It’s giving moral and political cover to groups that kidnap, rape, and execute innocent people. And if you’re too blind, too cowardly, or too brainwashed to admit that, then you’re either a fool or a sympathizer.  

Let’s get one thing straight—the U.S. is under zero obligation to tolerate foreign nationals who side with our enemies. Free speech doesn’t mean free residency. The First Amendment protects you from government punishment, not from consequences. If you’re not a citizen and you’re out in the streets screaming for Hamas, you have no business being in this country. Period.  

So spare me the whiny nonsense about “using their voice.” They’ve already made it clear where they stand. And if they stand with terrorists, then they can pack their bags and go live under the regimes they admire so much. America doesn’t need them, doesn’t want them, and shouldn’t tolerate them for one second longer.

I think it’s hard to say “no punishments but there are consequences” when the consequence is a punishmentYou drove drunk, we’re not going to punish you...

I think it’s hard to say “no punishments but there are consequences” when the consequence is a punishment



You drove drunk, we’re not going to punish you, but the consequence is 10 years in jail, again, you aren’t being punished 

That’s a garbage analogy, and you know it. Jail is a punishment because it’s a direct legal consequence for a crime committed by a “citizen”. Deportation, on the other hand, isn’t a punishment—it’s a “privilege being revoked”.  

If you’re a foreign national in the U.S., you’re here because this country allows you to be. That privilege comes with conditions. One of those conditions should be “not openly supporting terrorist organizations”. If you break that, you don’t get punished—you get removed. That’s not punishment, that’s just the U.S. deciding it has no obligation to keep people who support its enemies.  

If you don’t get the difference, that’s on you. But don’t pretend this is some grand injustice. If you back terrorists, America doesn’t owe you a damn thing—not a visa, not a green card, and certainly not a home.

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I wasn't stating an opinion I was quoting yours...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

TXDirt wrote:
Nice try, but your pathetic attempt at a gotcha falls flat. You’re deliberately twisting words to equate a sovereign nation defending itself with a terrorist death...

Nice try, but your pathetic attempt at a gotcha falls flat. You’re deliberately twisting words to equate a sovereign nation defending itself with a terrorist death cult that exists to massacre civilians. Israel isn’t rounding up families and executing them in their homes. Hamas does. Israel isn’t sending suicide bombers into markets or raping women as a war tactic. Hamas does. The difference is night and day, and pretending otherwise is either willful ignorance or flat-out terrorist apologism.  

You can cherry-pick reports and cry about “butchering civilians” all you want, but the reality is simple: If you’re in the U.S. and you publicly support a terrorist organization you should be deported immediately. No twisting, no pathetic false comparisons, no mental gymnastics will change that. Either you back civilization, or you back savages. If you’re dumb enough to defend the latter, you don’t belong here. Period.

How am I twisting your words when I quoted you directly..."you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers...

How am I twisting your words when I quoted you directly...

"you just don’t get to stay here if yours belongs to a group that butchers civilians"

Hamas kills civilians, Israel kills civilians, one group does it face to face, the other group does it from 30,000ft, both achieve the same result, so why do you differentiate?

Hamas intentionally butchers civilians—women, children, babies—in their homes, on the streets, and at concerts. They take hostages, rape, and parade bodies through the streets in celebration. That’s not collateral damage. That’s terrorism.  

Israel, like any nation at war, has civilian casualties, but they aren’t targeting civilians as a mission objective. They warn before strikes, they attempt to minimize civilian deaths, and they fight an enemy that deliberately hides behind human shields. If you can’t see the difference between a government defending itself and a terrorist group whose entire purpose is to slaughter civilians, then you’re either ignorant or willfully blind.  

The fact that you’re even trying to equate the two says everything. One side fights a war; the other commits atrocities.

It’s clear what side you are on.

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This is a test case for the new administration. Pick a target, challenge a basic constitutional right and see how far it goes in the courts and the court of public opinion. Basically, it's a test to see how much they can get away with.

Ultimately they will defy the constitution. As stated by Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts, Project 2025's goal is to transform the US from a constitutional republic into an autocracy. Roberts, when interviewed on Steve Bannon's War Room podcast, said that "a new American Revolution is underway" and it will be bloodless "if the left allows it." Bannon himself, as he was entering prison on contempt of Congress charges, has said that if Republicans can't win total control of the country as a constitutional republic "then we're not going to have one of those." These are evil people doing dangerous things and they're not even trying to hide it.

It will be interesting to see what happens on April 20th. Trump had signed an Executive Order on January 20th that directs the Secretary of Defense (Trump's lackey, Hegseth) to evaluate by April 20th whether they should invoke the Insurrection Act. The administration has been setting the table for this by giving the appearance that they are unable to reach their deportation goals with ICE alone and will likely declare that they must have the military step in to assist. This is an extremely dangerous move and once that river is crossed, it's going to be difficult to go back. 

 

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