RC beef with Sexton?

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Geez that is cringey. Defensive "you claim I never do". Belittling to fans: "Your hero" like it is some kind of a put down to...

Geez that is cringey. Defensive "you claim I never do". Belittling to fans: "Your hero" like it is some kind of a put down to a fan. "reminder to the warriors" - another put down to a fan as only a keyboard warrior. 

 

youre right. ive said it before and ill keep saying it, thats the mark of a narcissist.  

he SHOULD be defending himself against why he cant criticize people in general (deegans, monster and triumph riders, etc), instead he goes for the obvious, which means he probably actually doesn't like chase in reality. 

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wardy wrote:
There is a problem with this sport.  Seems we think people who are "fast" on dirt bikes are good at everything.  What it comes down to...

There is a problem with this sport.  Seems we think people who are "fast" on dirt bikes are good at everything.  What it comes down to is we elevate these past "hero's" to positions in other aspects of our sport and wonder why they suck at it. With the exception of a very few, past champions don't necessarily make "great" anything else.  They spent their lives racing dirt bikes.  Now we expect them to "announce" a race with clever opinions and all the rest.

News flash.  You might be the best electrician in the room, but doesn't mean you can solder a copper pipe together for a hot water heater.

We get exactly what we get from past champions when they stand in front of a microphone and tell us all their opinions. then get butt hurt over it.

It's our sports way of things.  It's the lazy way actually.  Find a "hero", place them in a spot where so many idolize them and watch them flounder.

No different then making past champions team managers, just because they are fast doesn't make for good leaders.  

Just an opinion from an old man who has seen this stuff for a long time. Doesn't change and won't.

A/C would be a prime example of someone in the sport that just might be the opposite.  He at a very young age did excellent with the microphone and was pretty damn good on the bike. 

OH and RC has piled on Chase for a long time, Chase has big shoulders and can handle it. He is current, RC is past.  The brutal thing about this sport.......................once you have been put out to pasture, no one really cares and the more you "try" to matter the  more it doesn't.

and i am biased on this issue as well.

i'd argue AC92 didnt reach his potential BECAUSE he's such a thinker. hard to turn the brain off when you have a big one. 

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As long as Sexton keeps making mistakes it's RCs job to be critical of it. Pretty simple

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There's 2 completely different conversations going on here but that's Vital🤣the OP wasn't referring to RC's poor announcing skills calling back to something that already happened...

There's 2 completely different conversations going on here but that's Vital🤣the OP wasn't referring to RC's poor announcing skills calling back to something that already happened and referring back to points he made 10 minutes prior, the OP was referring to RC being a "hater" as in criticizing Chase more than deserved. I wholeheartedly agree that RC is not a great announcer in any way shape or form. However, as I already said in an earlier reply of mine the criticism itself (regardless of how poorly it was delivered from a color commentator/analyst side of things) is absolutely deserved🤷‍♂️

Yes, you are correct. There are two different conversations going on here versus what the original poster asked….but they seem to go hand-in-hand with what has been happening in the booth lately.  One thing I noticed is that the other announcer… whoever it may be that is with  RC and JS seems to be pretty seamless when announcing the race, but as soon as RC or JS start to comment on something, I say “here we go”. A good example to compare that is with the NBA. The San Antonio Spurs have Sean Elliott, former Spurs player, announcing some of the home games. great guy, awesome basketball player, but he sucks in the booth. As a former player for the Spurs, he interjects too much of his personal thoughts into the game that’s going on. He likes to say “our guys” and this and that instead of just calling it like he sees it. He seems to go off on a tangent and misses some of the action as it is happening while the other announcers are pretty seamless. Just Google Sean Elliot NBA announcer sucks to see some of the things I’m talking about. 

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2/21/2025 4:17am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2025 4:18am
AH387 wrote:
RC can never win, in the booth. People say he cheerleads and then as soon as he calls it how it is about someone they like...

RC can never win, in the booth. People say he cheerleads and then as soon as he calls it how it is about someone they like, ppl get all bent about it. I like Chase but let's be honest, he is his own worst enemy. He has the speed but makes many stupid mistakes. Webb, while much faster this year, still doesn't quite have that high-end speed that Chase has. But he also doesn't make a lot of the mistakes that Chase makes over and over. That's the point RC was trying to make and I don't think he was wrong or out of line. I also remember in a thread on here, during Outdoors, someone was whining about JS7 "hating on Chase" for saying something similar. You can't win, I guess, in the broadcast booth.

Not to get off the topic but Webb is much faster this year? Than other years? I don't see any new speed out of him. Which...

Not to get off the topic but Webb is much faster this year? Than other years? I don't see any new speed out of him. Which is not insult, he's got all the speed he needs to take this title. 

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I may have not worded that clearly but I think he has found some speed this year compared to last year. He seems to be better...

I may have not worded that clearly but I think he has found some speed this year compared to last year. He seems to be better in the whoops and in general, to me, doesn't look far off from what Chase, Eli and Jett were able to do. I'm not saying he is faster than those guys but I think he is a faster version of himself. Also, I feel that gap is closer to the others than it was prior.

I've actually noticed that Webb seems to be much better in the whoops this year. You're absolutely right. That's definitely going to lead to a better pace. I stand corrected 

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2/21/2025 5:01am
OFalk280 wrote:
There's 2 completely different conversations going on here but that's Vital🤣the OP wasn't referring to RC's poor announcing skills calling back to something that already happened...

There's 2 completely different conversations going on here but that's Vital🤣the OP wasn't referring to RC's poor announcing skills calling back to something that already happened and referring back to points he made 10 minutes prior, the OP was referring to RC being a "hater" as in criticizing Chase more than deserved. I wholeheartedly agree that RC is not a great announcer in any way shape or form. However, as I already said in an earlier reply of mine the criticism itself (regardless of how poorly it was delivered from a color commentator/analyst side of things) is absolutely deserved🤷‍♂️

Kenv wrote:
Yes, you are correct. There are two different conversations going on here versus what the original poster asked….but they seem to go hand-in-hand with what has...

Yes, you are correct. There are two different conversations going on here versus what the original poster asked….but they seem to go hand-in-hand with what has been happening in the booth lately.  One thing I noticed is that the other announcer… whoever it may be that is with  RC and JS seems to be pretty seamless when announcing the race, but as soon as RC or JS start to comment on something, I say “here we go”. A good example to compare that is with the NBA. The San Antonio Spurs have Sean Elliott, former Spurs player, announcing some of the home games. great guy, awesome basketball player, but he sucks in the booth. As a former player for the Spurs, he interjects too much of his personal thoughts into the game that’s going on. He likes to say “our guys” and this and that instead of just calling it like he sees it. He seems to go off on a tangent and misses some of the action as it is happening while the other announcers are pretty seamless. Just Google Sean Elliot NBA announcer sucks to see some of the things I’m talking about. 

Interjecting personal expert experience is the point of a color commentator rather than the play-by-play guy. They’re not supposed to call the action “play-by play,” they’re supposed to analyze different points that they see based on their experience. That’s why the play-by-play will defer to them for opinions and insight. Think Troy Aikman, Tony Romo, Tom Brady. They’re not calling the action, they provide insight into what’s going on behind the action. That’s why it’s RC’s job to be critical of a rider making those mistakes…is he good at announcing? Nah. But the critique was wholeheartedly deserved. Other critiques I’m not talking about, I’m talking about this specific event, in relation to RC’e supposed beef with Chase.

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How many of you guys watch RC and Villomoto's podcast "Title 24?"They have always repeated themselves 2-4 times on almost every point they are making, RV...

How many of you guys watch RC and Villomoto's podcast "Title 24?"

They have always repeated themselves 2-4 times on almost every point they are making, RV says X, RC 100% agree, RC paraphrased what RV said, RV I agree. <-- happens frequently.

It's not hate, they are still finding their zone in the podcast business

They are still "finding their zone" because they aren't educated. It's as simple as that.

They dedicated their lives to being badasses on dirtbikes from a very young age, which, unfortunately, requires education to be put on the backburner. They never learned how to properly construct thoughts and opinions into clear & concise speech. It's not something that comes naturally for most people; typically, it is a skill that must be developed... typically, as an adolescent in schooling, and not as a grown-up with a wife and children.

I listen to their pod on occasion, but it can be tough at times. Ricky will want Ryan's opinion on a matter, but will set him up with a diatribe of "okay so Ryan, tell us based on your experience what you think should've happened here. I've given my take, so tell the viewers at home what you think of this". Like, dude, all you have to say is "Ryan, your thoughts?". I'm pretty sure Ryan is familiar with the general concept of giving an opinion.

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2/21/2025 8:10am

RC needs to shut the f up. Yeah bro I said itt. Even days after the race he still don’t understand the red flag and why they did 3 laps, And here comes the pass… ah no maybe later bro… he was one offene greatest but he should just sit back and watch

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So RC was right last week and Chase goes out and proves it again. Lol.

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2/22/2025 7:44pm
KurtJ99 wrote:
I don't remember anyone being this hard on my boy Tomac at A1 or his bad starts in the triple crown. More just an "aw shucks"...

I don't remember anyone being this hard on my boy Tomac at A1 or his bad starts in the triple crown. More just an "aw shucks" bummer from the booth. Tomac used to be derided as a "head case", but perhaps with his one year only contract extensions the booth is being easy on him. 

 I like that nobody gives Tomac a hard time but there is clearly a different narrative with Sexton and from Ricky particularly. I don't think anybody will be tougher on it than Sexton himself. 

Yea, of course there is a different narrative with Sexton, he has 11 sx wins and tomac has 53.  2nd oa on the win list gets you some leniency. 

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2/22/2025 8:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2025 8:35pm

Imagine what all of the announcers would be saying if they weren't in the box? 

It might sound more like a Vital Mx forum !

RC calls it like he was brought up, no excuses, dont keep making the same stupid ass mistake.

RC did mention that he has very high expectations of Chase, I think thats why we hear these auto reactions from him. Also, he is one of the very few that can legit criticize a rider at this level on air. 

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2/22/2025 8:42pm

RC actually said nothing about that egregious but inadvertent cross jump. that was strangge. lots of mistakes tonight

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Tyler D wrote:

RC actually said nothing about that egregious but inadvertent cross jump. that was strangge. lots of mistakes tonight

He did that to Tomac a few races back too. That's bad form for Supercross.

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Imagine what all of the announcers would be saying if they weren't in the box? It might sound more like a Vital Mx forum !RC calls it...

Imagine what all of the announcers would be saying if they weren't in the box? 

It might sound more like a Vital Mx forum !

RC calls it like he was brought up, no excuses, dont keep making the same stupid ass mistake.

RC did mention that he has very high expectations of Chase, I think thats why we hear these auto reactions from him. Also, he is one of the very few that can legit criticize a rider at this level on air. 

I feel like that's what we all should be doing. How can you defend Chase right now? He is a very good rider that continues to put himself in a hole with mental mistakes. It's just fact. RC pointing that out doesn't mean he has beef or is hating. It's just pointing out what everyone should be thinking. I actually like him and want to see him battle Jett in the next few years, to be the top guy. I think his ceiling is high enough that he could be "the guy."  But until Chase learns to clean up the silly mistakes, he will not beat Jett straight up for a title. I don't see why pointing that out is bad, when it's the truth. Chase continues to do it over and over so there is no way to argue against it, right now.

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