Trump supporters, serious question

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What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going higher with these tariffs. Gas prices will not drop because he wants to "drill baby, drill".  And he is putting people out of work at every turn.

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Steaight from the MSM talking points.

Pretty much word for word.

 

I'm actually surprised that you didn't manage to throw, CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, into your pasta.

That seems to be the latest cry, as the government worker gravy train is being derailed. 

 

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Steaight from the MSM talking points.Pretty much word for word. I'm actually surprised that you didn't manage to throw, CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, into your pasta.That seems to be...

Steaight from the MSM talking points.

Pretty much word for word.

 

I'm actually surprised that you didn't manage to throw, CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, into your pasta.

That seems to be the latest cry, as the government worker gravy train is being derailed. 

 

Just answer the question.

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For one thing, supply and demand problems typically aren’t solved with a magic wand or stroke of a pen. Supply chains take time to be re-filled.  Your geniuses waged a four year war against the food and energy supply and drove up inflation and now here you are bitching about high prices less than 4 weeks into the new administration.  

You guys should think more before spouting off the MSDNC talking points.

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olds cool wrote:
For one thing, supply and demand problems typically aren’t solved with a magic wand or stroke of a pen. Supply chains take time to be re-filled...

For one thing, supply and demand problems typically aren’t solved with a magic wand or stroke of a pen. Supply chains take time to be re-filled.  Your geniuses waged a four year war against the food and energy supply and drove up inflation and now here you are bitching about high prices less than 4 weeks into the new administration.  

You guys should think more before spouting off the MSDNC talking points.

Again, what SPECIFIC Executive Order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  I'm not asking for the result, just the action.

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byugukcuf wrote:
What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going...

What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going higher with these tariffs. Gas prices will not drop because he wants to "drill baby, drill".  And he is putting people out of work at every turn.

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting off funding to the liberal mouthpiece.

There's two for you and I haven't even had my coffee or taken a shit this morning Tongue

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byugukcuf wrote:
What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going...

What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going higher with these tariffs. Gas prices will not drop because he wants to "drill baby, drill".  And he is putting people out of work at every turn.

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting...

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting off funding to the liberal mouthpiece.

There's two for you and I haven't even had my coffee or taken a shit this morning Tongue

Neither of your examples are directed at improving the economy and neither  of them will improve the economy.

I'm not trolling, I'm simply asking for clear initiatives that are aimed at approving the economy.  Your examples are ideological stances that aren't supported by any data or clear objectives other than "I don't like it".

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Reading comprehension is not your thing is it?

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You won’t get an answer. 

Just like if you asked a Liberal “Why did you vote for Kamala?” The answer would be “Cause it’s not Trump.”


Nobody really knows anymore, they just cheer for their chosen team. 

America is cooked. 

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I have no opinion on Trump and the economy, but the constitutional crisis issue is one I'm watching with great interest (I have a background in jurisprudence - in particular, the general justification of law's claims to authority, with a small foray in one paper into intra-institutional authority and deference). The issue is that to this point in American politics, every President has simply agreed to be bound by the law (even Nixon, who said "if the President does it it's legal" grudgingly complied with court orders).  It does not seem beyond the realm of possibility that Trump will, at some point, defy a ruling against something he wants to do, basically saying "screw you" to the courts. What then? Nobody knows because it's unprecedented. That's what makes it interesting. I'm not saying this to bash Trump. I'm saying this because if it does happen, he will be pushing the limits of executive power into uncharted territory and what happens will be of tremendous importance. He could fundamentally reshape the way the separation of powers is configured if he sets a new precedent and the other branches of government acquiesce. Alternatively, the other branches of government could push back - then what? Either way, it's not crazy to call it a constitutional crisis. Whether it will happen or not is another thing, and whether you approve or not yet another.   

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Yep, gonna be a long 4yrs for some of you kids.

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byugukcuf wrote:
What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going...

What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going higher with these tariffs. Gas prices will not drop because he wants to "drill baby, drill".  And he is putting people out of work at every turn.

Your name spelled backwards is cute.

EMETIB

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So it wasn't interesting when Biden said screw the courts, screw the judges on the student loan forgiveness?  Was that not a constitutional crisis?  Constitutional crisis is being echoed on something preemptive that has not happened with Trump but did indeed happen with Biden.  But that doesn't count? I guess you didn't have great interest in that.   

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2/13/2025 6:43am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2025 6:45am
byugukcuf wrote:
What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going...

What executive order or action has he taken to improve the economy?  Nothing he said during the campaign has happened.  Prices are still high and going higher with these tariffs. Gas prices will not drop because he wants to "drill baby, drill".  And he is putting people out of work at every turn.

Rocket88 wrote:

Your name spelled backwards is cute.

EMETIB

😉👉  Not sure what that has to do with the question though.

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Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting...

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting off funding to the liberal mouthpiece.

There's two for you and I haven't even had my coffee or taken a shit this morning Tongue

And how about the whacking  of the ridiculous huge DEI program payouts for another example ?  

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So it wasn't interesting when Biden said screw the courts, screw the judges on the student loan forgiveness?  Was that not a constitutional crisis?  Constitutional crisis...

So it wasn't interesting when Biden said screw the courts, screw the judges on the student loan forgiveness?  Was that not a constitutional crisis?  Constitutional crisis is being echoed on something preemptive that has not happened with Trump but did indeed happen with Biden.  But that doesn't count? I guess you didn't have great interest in that.   

Presidents frequently push the envelope on their powers where the law is unsettled or ambiguous, or try to skirt around court orders in various creative ways, but none have outright blatantly defied the courts without backing off or modifying their actions at some point - as Biden did (though there are still many who think he overstepped his power, which he probably did). I'm thinking more of direct and blatant defiance aimed less at implementing policy (though a policy objective could be involved) and more at reshaping government. In my view, Presidents from both parties have long been overusing executive orders but have at least pretended to care what the courts say. The question is, what happens if a President doesn't even pretend to care? 

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Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting...

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting off funding to the liberal mouthpiece.

There's two for you and I haven't even had my coffee or taken a shit this morning Tongue

OldPro277 wrote:

And how about the whacking  of the ridiculous huge DEI program payouts for another example ?  

Again, another ideological viewpoint that has nothing to do with improving the economy.

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Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting...

Deporting thousands of illegals that bring no value to this country is a damn good start. There are many more things he is doing including cutting off funding to the liberal mouthpiece.

There's two for you and I haven't even had my coffee or taken a shit this morning Tongue

OldPro277 wrote:

And how about the whacking  of the ridiculous huge DEI program payouts for another example ?  

byugukcuf wrote:

Again, another ideological viewpoint that has nothing to do with improving the economy.

Not sure you understand the impact of billions of dollars of being wasted on horseshit programs --  but that's a rather  common problem on your side 🤣

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Hi Motodrive !!

TEEF-Tubby

 

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Bringing USAID to light is a pretty big one.

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olds cool wrote:
For one thing, supply and demand problems typically aren’t solved with a magic wand or stroke of a pen. Supply chains take time to be re-filled...

For one thing, supply and demand problems typically aren’t solved with a magic wand or stroke of a pen. Supply chains take time to be re-filled.  Your geniuses waged a four year war against the food and energy supply and drove up inflation and now here you are bitching about high prices less than 4 weeks into the new administration.  

You guys should think more before spouting off the MSDNC talking points.

I'll just leave this here... #1 reason I voted for the guy.

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Hi Motodrive !! 

Hi Motodrive !!

TEEF-Tubby

 

Just exactly how I pictured this latest one coming in here on a troll.

 

Hilarious how they all come in throwing their bait around, and thinking any of us owe them an answer. 

The best is when they say...

I'm waiting.

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I’m loving this. The “melt-down” right in front of us…as they find BILLIONS that have been spent on the stupidest shit…in other countries…

Yes, we’re talking “Expenditures”… that they’ve exposed and in many cases ENDED. 

THOUSANDS of USAID “consultants” and “administrators”…GONE.

That waste…those expenditures…

Gone.

That’s economic savings and I love it

In the mean-time, and back to my original point, about all of this…I’m loving the outright stupidity of the “Minions of the Status Quo”. It’s like you’ve forgotten…or trying to forget,…the Dementia Patient that you elected. 

Maybe you’re trying to get us to You’ve forget:

The AFG DISASTER

The FUNDING OF IRAN & IT’S PROXIES…which have you…

October 7TH

The Ukraine War and the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS laundered thru it…and MISSING BILLIONS…

INFLATION…again, ELECTED BY YOU

Any idea what that cost? Do you care?

4 years of that stupid shit and you’re here whining & bitching as things are finally headed in the right direction.

No worries. We’re not surprised. It’s why that “Status Quo” name fits you so well.

You Can Not Make This Shit Up!©️

 

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This thread is going to be fucking epic.

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Just imagine what it would be like right now if Kamala had won. 

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Just imagine what it would be like right now if Kamala had won. 

Dude, I often have this conversation with a lot of my friends. We would be so screwed. Still sends shivers down my spine.

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I’m loving this. The “melt-down” right in front of us…as they find BILLIONS that have been spent on the stupidest shit…in other countries…Yes, we’re talking “Expenditures”...

I’m loving this. The “melt-down” right in front of us…as they find BILLIONS that have been spent on the stupidest shit…in other countries…

Yes, we’re talking “Expenditures”… that they’ve exposed and in many cases ENDED. 

THOUSANDS of USAID “consultants” and “administrators”…GONE.

That waste…those expenditures…

Gone.

That’s economic savings and I love it

In the mean-time, and back to my original point, about all of this…I’m loving the outright stupidity of the “Minions of the Status Quo”. It’s like you’ve forgotten…or trying to forget,…the Dementia Patient that you elected. 

Maybe you’re trying to get us to You’ve forget:

The AFG DISASTER

The FUNDING OF IRAN & IT’S PROXIES…which have you…

October 7TH

The Ukraine War and the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS laundered thru it…and MISSING BILLIONS…

INFLATION…again, ELECTED BY YOU

Any idea what that cost? Do you care?

4 years of that stupid shit and you’re here whining & bitching as things are finally headed in the right direction.

No worries. We’re not surprised. It’s why that “Status Quo” name fits you so well.

You Can Not Make This Shit Up!©️

 

To put some of what I said earlier into sharper focus and explain why I said it, as explained so thoroughly by TeamGreen, Trump's presidency is a massive middle finger to the political establishment. He can do that because he very much seems not to give a shit. Whatever faults he has, I can admire that in a man. He wants to shake things up and he wants to challenge the status quo (of which the judiciary is largely a part). When someone asks me why I didn't find Biden's actions interesting, I would take it as obvious that Biden was as entrenched in the status quo of the political establishment as anyone could be. He couldn't have been more boring. The fucking guy was barely conscious. Trump is a shit disturber, and it's just getting started. Whether it's for good or the opposite, I'll reserve judgment because I really don't know. 

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Show me on the doll how the sand got into your vagina.

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Drilling more oil will certainly lower prices of not just gas, but everything else. Increasing our supply of the most valuable commodity on earth is basically the inverse of printing money. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
I’m loving this. The “melt-down” right in front of us…as they find BILLIONS that have been spent on the stupidest shit…in other countries…Yes, we’re talking “Expenditures”...

I’m loving this. The “melt-down” right in front of us…as they find BILLIONS that have been spent on the stupidest shit…in other countries…

Yes, we’re talking “Expenditures”… that they’ve exposed and in many cases ENDED. 

THOUSANDS of USAID “consultants” and “administrators”…GONE.

That waste…those expenditures…

Gone.

That’s economic savings and I love it

In the mean-time, and back to my original point, about all of this…I’m loving the outright stupidity of the “Minions of the Status Quo”. It’s like you’ve forgotten…or trying to forget,…the Dementia Patient that you elected. 

Maybe you’re trying to get us to You’ve forget:

The AFG DISASTER

The FUNDING OF IRAN & IT’S PROXIES…which have you…

October 7TH

The Ukraine War and the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS laundered thru it…and MISSING BILLIONS…

INFLATION…again, ELECTED BY YOU

Any idea what that cost? Do you care?

4 years of that stupid shit and you’re here whining & bitching as things are finally headed in the right direction.

No worries. We’re not surprised. It’s why that “Status Quo” name fits you so well.

You Can Not Make This Shit Up!©️

 

MPJC wrote:
To put some of what I said earlier into sharper focus and explain why I said it, as explained so thoroughly by TeamGreen, Trump's presidency is...

To put some of what I said earlier into sharper focus and explain why I said it, as explained so thoroughly by TeamGreen, Trump's presidency is a massive middle finger to the political establishment. He can do that because he very much seems not to give a shit. Whatever faults he has, I can admire that in a man. He wants to shake things up and he wants to challenge the status quo (of which the judiciary is largely a part). When someone asks me why I didn't find Biden's actions interesting, I would take it as obvious that Biden was as entrenched in the status quo of the political establishment as anyone could be. He couldn't have been more boring. The fucking guy was barely conscious. Trump is a shit disturber, and it's just getting started. Whether it's for good or the opposite, I'll reserve judgment because I really don't know. 

Ya know…and this is intended as an explanation of my position …not as an argument against your’s…

I don’t see any sort of constitutional crisis. If the “administrative branch” (sounds like a bad joke; but, it’s a reality) is so inclined, they can take on the executive and/or the legislative branch’s in the courts. And, they already have.

Ya know, the simple fact that we’ve recognized that there really is an “administrative branch” is something we need to think on for a moment. Why? There-in lies a huge problem. Last I checked, they’re not a part of our constitutional foundation nor are they one of the actual legitimate branches of our governments…BUT!!! Both in your country and mine…we know it’s a reality. Don’t we? 

The other problem is that you and I see what a giant-defeatist BLOB the administrative branch has become and the “Status Quo Minions” either don’t care or don’t want to acknowledge it.

This thought returned to the forefront with me as I saw you’re discussion on “the establishment”…as addressed in your explanation of “the establishment” when looking back over these last few years…I see DOGE & this administration…both representing Executive Authority as afforded them by being the actual Executive Branch of the United States

Well, you see them going to war against The Administrative Branch.

Damn, I really like that.

We need to have a beer some day. 

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I don't see Exxon eating profits due to a surplus. Once the market proved it's willing to pay X, it tends to stay that way and continue to creep up. Not to mention big oil will be looking to recoup costs to get it out of the ground. The only reason gas dropped under Trump's last admin was because covid shut down and nobody was driving.

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