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No you will never understand that I did...
Obviously he did not mean it literally despite your gaslighting as Ken ended up on the ground and he never actually said the lapper made him crash. You do the math.
Just because it was a racing incident does not mean there is no fault..
Meanwhile Gypsy Tales Bro is just sitting back smiling going see this is why my rant about the privateers is valid with these lapper situations lol
No offense to you....but DippyTales is a complete moron for saying so.
Why would you want to limit the ability of the rider to step up their game and run with the big boys when the gate drops. Lappers are part of motorsports. Deal with it.
I watched a lapper get in between Jett and Chase at Unadilla(Chase was catching him) for half a lap in the racing line. He lost a bunch of time and ended up going down trying to make it up. Yet all we here is 22-0.
If there is an issue storm the AMA office. Not vital.
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No offense taken... I didn't say I agree with him, IMO they deserve to be there and thats what makes the sport so cool that anyone with enough talent can make it to the night show which is badass.... Compared to other sports sometimes all it takes is money to buy a ride/drive which is bs
Boxing and UFC bouts only have two fighters yet can generate plenty of excitement.
You're saying that limiting the main to the top 15 riders in the world wouldn't be exciting?
Why the 450 class champion is usually won by attendance & who can ride with injuries at 80 % the best. To secure the most points every week. After the last race you add up the points . 100 % there should be a B main both mains 22 riders. Other than sx a rider can’t make any money. Look at pro ams the level just below sx. 3k purse for 2 classes, ouch. I had a lapper on the last lap whiskey throttle it in a tight switch back in deep sand threw the trees . And knock me down , it cost me a 2nd At 1st I was pissed but riders r very tired & it happens. I should’ve waited for a wider spot . It’s a part of being on the track.
An extra rule above the already existing rule could be: If you're getting lapped once you can stay in the race, but be aware for the blue flag. Is the leader of the race gaining time on you again and you will be lapped for a second time in the upcoming lap, you won't get the blue flag anymore but the black flag with a blue meatball on it. This means you're out of the race and you need to get off the track.
But yesterday Malcolm Stewart was really on rails, he lapped everyone till the eighth place and there where four riders lapped more than once.
Maybe they should do that. Like racers from Sprintcar-, midgetcar-, NASCAR-racing do. I notice that the leader often or when needed goes off the ideal line to pass the slower car, at the same time he needs to keep his momentum, because that momentum; his speed is what he needs to pass that slower car this lapper. But this momentum and speed is also what he needs to prevent his competitors to return and make a move for the lead.
And racers such as Christopher Bell, Kyle Larson, Kasey Kahne Brad Sweets, Logan Schuchart, David Gravel, Carson Macedo, Tyler Courtney, Ryan Timms, Donny Schatz, Michael Kofoid... are also elite talents.
Apples and oranges my friend, we're talking Motorsports.
What do you consider elite at this level, staying on the same lap, running within twl seconds of each other? If so, then you wouldn't be able to fill the gate with 15 riders.
Shits mind boggling to me. I bet you can ask anyone of these guys and they aren't in favor of 10-15 man gates.
Clay oval drivers drift it threw entree on turn 3 threw turn 4 . Passing a lapper outside to inside drifting. It’s a work of art .
I agree, if you clearly do not have the pace and are getting lapped twice, its times to pull the bin. Its confusing for the riders too of who is current, lap down and two down.
In the heat races, you could also have, say a 7% catch where you need to be within a certain amount of the fastest lap. There could be, say, a secondary championship run too of lucky losers to accompany the main championship.
What if there were two mains, but the riders didn't know which main they were in. After both are done, the top 3 from each get on the main stage. Then a modern day Wink Martindale comes out, puts his arms around one of the winners, and says "GrapeApe, tonight you won.......THE A MAIN!!! Tell the man what we have for him tonight Ricky. "
Well that makes absolutely no sense. What if a lapper in 18th place moves out of the way for the guy in 1st place. Then guy in 1st place gets blocked by guy in 17th while lapping him. You wanna black flag guy in 17th midway through the race then award him with a 17th place finish. So now guy in 18th place can keep racing but can’t move up to 17th place because now all of a sudden that position has already been given to the dude who got black flagged? So everyone behind him could be negatively affected by not being able to move up to 17th place? That sounds absolutely bananas.
You guys and your fantasy land ideas. If a lapper intentionally holds someone up then penalize them. But good luck proving intent. There’s 22 guys racing each other on a tiny track inside a stadium. Being able to make passes and navigating obstacles (whether turns, jumps or other riders) is all a part of the game.
I wouldnt mind seeing a B main for a few reasons.
1) The riders who dont make the A main still get exposure and TV time. With more manufacturers lining up, someone is going to be on the outside, a 2nd main event give more viewing time.
2) the total riders for each main can be cut down do there is still someone who doesnt make the Main's. from 44 in the heats cut down to 20 riders in the A main and 20 in the B main.
3) the B main could still hand out championship points to keep riders motivated to race for the win but just for top 3
4) I would go as far as running 3 heats vs 2 to cut down how many riders are on the track at a time ~15 per
Some good points, for the guys back in 12-20 a B main would actually be better exposure. We never seen them in the main outside of when they're getting lapped, but if there was a B main we'd actually get to see them and their sponsors.
I would think a lot of those lapped racers would welcome a black flag, if it meant locking them in to the finishing position they are in.
Again, this is on the AMA. Maybe 8 from the heats for a total of 20 would free up some track space.
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agree 100%...
Bro, how many times have we seen the vitards try and reinvent the wheel?
I'm with Cooper Webb and in agreement with his post-race comments, which don't align with the comments ^^^^. If you haven't heard his interview, it's worth the time.
How often are we seeing the leaders lapping into the top 10? Do we start black flagging top factory guys next? or mabye an A, B and C class...... Good grief.
This sport is already unrecognizable in some ways.
Start grates: bullshit
Holeshot devices: bullshit
RPM lights: bullshit
Start blocks (riders feet): bullshit
Shall I continue.....
Like a broken record
Filthy Phil had some interesting things to say about the topic of lappers last night on Pulp.
The topic arises at about 1:49.59 in https://www.youtube.com/live/vRnjHXmG14o?si=epvlpRSaxNynNfOv&t=6599
You want to fix the problem with the lappers? Start docking positions and cut the pay. problem solved.
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