KTM to file for Bankruptcy/ Self Restructuring on Friday

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I have an even better question. How many shares do you add to inject 900M into a 400M market cap company?

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Yet KTM's have experienced quality issues...

Yet KTM's have experienced quality issues...

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““Best in the Bizzness…”

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Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM...

Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM and hope they fail. Show us on the doll where KTM touched you. 

It's unhealthy, isn't it.

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Yet KTM's have experienced quality issues...

Yet KTM's have experienced quality issues...

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““Best in the Bizzness…”

cwel11 wrote:
Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM...

Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM and hope they fail. Show us on the doll where KTM touched you. 

Maybe because the vitards stomped all over my dick about how great KTM’S are and how shit Kawasaki was in the reliability thread. Payback is hell.

Nothing about the company other than management issues. Evidently you feel there is no problem there.

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It's unhealthy, isn't it.

Actually discussion is healthy. Unjustified personal attacks not so much.

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MxAddic wrote:

I have an even better question. How many shares do you add to inject 900M into a 400M market cap company?

If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?

900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.

Also if you could stop making up numbers... here is an exercise for you: if 900 millions corresponds to 50% of the company current share capital, how much is the capital? Take it easy.

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1/7/2025 4:53am Edited Date/Time 1/7/2025 5:56am
MxAddic wrote:

I have an even better question. How many shares do you add to inject 900M into a 400M market cap company?

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If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.Also if...

If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?

900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.

Also if you could stop making up numbers... here is an exercise for you: if 900 millions corresponds to 50% of the company current share capital, how much is the capital? Take it easy.

900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?

Unless my math is worse than your’s the only way a shareholder vote fails is if Bajaj sticks it up Stefan’s ass. The common folk holding stock are powerless. Any rights they may have are immaterial. Reading 87 pages of horseshit is not my cup of tea.

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MxAddic wrote:

““Best in the Bizzness…”

cwel11 wrote:
Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM...

Been reading your responses to this and other ktm threads for a few weeks now. Man just come out and say it already. You hate KTM and hope they fail. Show us on the doll where KTM touched you. 

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Maybe because the vitards stomped all over my dick about how great KTM’S are and how shit Kawasaki was in the reliability thread. Payback is hell.Nothing...

Maybe because the vitards stomped all over my dick about how great KTM’S are and how shit Kawasaki was in the reliability thread. Payback is hell.

Nothing about the company other than management issues. Evidently you feel there is no problem there.

You need to let go of your ego bro. 

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MxAddic wrote:

I have an even better question. How many shares do you add to inject 900M into a 400M market cap company?

Beagle wrote:
If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.Also if...

If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?

900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.

Also if you could stop making up numbers... here is an exercise for you: if 900 millions corresponds to 50% of the company current share capital, how much is the capital? Take it easy.

MxAddic wrote:
900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?Unless my math is worse than...

900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?

Unless my math is worse than your’s the only way a shareholder vote fails is if Bajaj sticks it up Stefan’s ass. The common folk holding stock are powerless. Any rights they may have are immaterial. Reading 87 pages of horseshit is not my cup of tea.

That's not "my maths" these numbers come from the documents you're commenting without reading.

Ironic how you don't want to read "87 pages or horseshit" but you keep posting so much on stuff you can't be bothered to read about, making anyone interested in the topic scroll through pages of your own.

I don't know if market cap is that relevant but its current value is 700 M, not 400 M. So now what are you saying exactly, what is the problem with issuing for 900 M of new shares? And how would it be bad for anyone, including the common folk, if they don't go bankrupt?

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Beagle wrote:
If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.Also if...

If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?

900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.

Also if you could stop making up numbers... here is an exercise for you: if 900 millions corresponds to 50% of the company current share capital, how much is the capital? Take it easy.

MxAddic wrote:
900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?Unless my math is worse than...

900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?

Unless my math is worse than your’s the only way a shareholder vote fails is if Bajaj sticks it up Stefan’s ass. The common folk holding stock are powerless. Any rights they may have are immaterial. Reading 87 pages of horseshit is not my cup of tea.

Beagle wrote:
That's not "my maths" these numbers come from the documents you're commenting without reading.Ironic how you don't want to read "87 pages or horseshit" but you...

That's not "my maths" these numbers come from the documents you're commenting without reading.

Ironic how you don't want to read "87 pages or horseshit" but you keep posting so much on stuff you can't be bothered to read about, making anyone interested in the topic scroll through pages of your own.

I don't know if market cap is that relevant but its current value is 700 M, not 400 M. So now what are you saying exactly, what is the problem with issuing for 900 M of new shares? And how would it be bad for anyone, including the common folk, if they don't go bankrupt?

Yeah, it was 400 million until a week ago when the world renowned moto GP journalist came off with his fluff headline of lifeline found and the stock shot up over 100%. It's already back on it's way to under 400M.

If the lifeline was found why do they need to vote on anything?

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You need to let go of your ego bro. 

Yeah, sorry if my ego is sensitive to getting my dick stomped on by a bunch of clowns so they can have a good time yucking it up..

I can't seem to let things go because some vitard is always there keeping it going even when I try. Like I have said before, don't want none, don't make none.

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Yeah, sorry if my ego is sensitive to getting my dick stomped on by a bunch of clowns so they can have a good time yucking...

Yeah, sorry if my ego is sensitive to getting my dick stomped on by a bunch of clowns so they can have a good time yucking it up..

I can't seem to let things go because some vitard is always there keeping it going even when I try. Like I have said before, don't want none, don't make none.

You bring it all on yourself bro. 


Fucking psycho behavior to post 99% inflammatory bullshit and expect people to just go whistling by 🫣

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You bring it all on yourself bro. 


Fucking psycho behavior to post 99% inflammatory bullshit and expect people to just go whistling by 🫣

There is is. Folks don't like what I save to say even if it's the truth and attack me. I make a bunch of post that are not inflammatory and even less are personal unless I am attacked first.

Thanks for self-reflecting for me Dr. I am sure you are going have to run so you can perform some brain surgery.

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You bring it all on yourself bro. 


Fucking psycho behavior to post 99% inflammatory bullshit and expect people to just go whistling by 🫣

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There is is. Folks don't like what I save to say even if it's the truth and attack me. I make a bunch of post that...

There is is. Folks don't like what I save to say even if it's the truth and attack me. I make a bunch of post that are not inflammatory and even less are personal unless I am attacked first.

Thanks for self-reflecting for me Dr. I am sure you are going have to run so you can perform some brain surgery.

Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially when they present evidence to back them up. (This is usually where you post a meme or music video because your out of comebacks). 

You call anyone who disagrees with you a vitard and act like you don’t attack anyone. Your shtick is tired. 

You’re axe to grind here is fans of ktm saying there quality has been better then another brand and you make it your personal mission to burn ktm at the stake FOR an opinion of someone you don’t even know, probably never will.  You might be a fine person in real life but your social skills in this setting are severally lacking. I’m worried this place is hurting your mental health. Maybe take a few weeks off and come back refreshed. 

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Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially...

Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially when they present evidence to back them up. (This is usually where you post a meme or music video because your out of comebacks). 

You call anyone who disagrees with you a vitard and act like you don’t attack anyone. Your shtick is tired. 

You’re axe to grind here is fans of ktm saying there quality has been better then another brand and you make it your personal mission to burn ktm at the stake FOR an opinion of someone you don’t even know, probably never will.  You might be a fine person in real life but your social skills in this setting are severally lacking. I’m worried this place is hurting your mental health. Maybe take a few weeks off and come back refreshed. 

That's not my axe to grind here. In fact I mention it because the comment I was taken to the mate on was the only reason for that particular post when another member showed failures(not me). The dozen of other posts in the KTM threads have zero to do with getting dissed in the other thread. Maybe you need to stop trying to analyze every thing I do. I can't remember a single time your reasoning has been correct.

We are back in the rent free zone evidently.

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soggy wrote:

You bring it all on yourself bro. 


Fucking psycho behavior to post 99% inflammatory bullshit and expect people to just go whistling by 🫣

MxAddic wrote:
There is is. Folks don't like what I save to say even if it's the truth and attack me. I make a bunch of post that...

There is is. Folks don't like what I save to say even if it's the truth and attack me. I make a bunch of post that are not inflammatory and even less are personal unless I am attacked first.

Thanks for self-reflecting for me Dr. I am sure you are going have to run so you can perform some brain surgery.

soggy wrote:
Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially...

Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially when they present evidence to back them up. (This is usually where you post a meme or music video because your out of comebacks). 

You call anyone who disagrees with you a vitard and act like you don’t attack anyone. Your shtick is tired. 

You’re axe to grind here is fans of ktm saying there quality has been better then another brand and you make it your personal mission to burn ktm at the stake FOR an opinion of someone you don’t even know, probably never will.  You might be a fine person in real life but your social skills in this setting are severally lacking. I’m worried this place is hurting your mental health. Maybe take a few weeks off and come back refreshed. 

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900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?Unless my math is worse than...

900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?

Unless my math is worse than your’s the only way a shareholder vote fails is if Bajaj sticks it up Stefan’s ass. The common folk holding stock are powerless. Any rights they may have are immaterial. Reading 87 pages of horseshit is not my cup of tea.

Beagle wrote:
That's not "my maths" these numbers come from the documents you're commenting without reading.Ironic how you don't want to read "87 pages or horseshit" but you...

That's not "my maths" these numbers come from the documents you're commenting without reading.

Ironic how you don't want to read "87 pages or horseshit" but you keep posting so much on stuff you can't be bothered to read about, making anyone interested in the topic scroll through pages of your own.

I don't know if market cap is that relevant but its current value is 700 M, not 400 M. So now what are you saying exactly, what is the problem with issuing for 900 M of new shares? And how would it be bad for anyone, including the common folk, if they don't go bankrupt?

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Yeah, it was 400 million until a week ago when the world renowned moto GP journalist came off with his fluff headline of lifeline found and...

Yeah, it was 400 million until a week ago when the world renowned moto GP journalist came off with his fluff headline of lifeline found and the stock shot up over 100%. It's already back on it's way to under 400M.

If the lifeline was found why do they need to vote on anything?

Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 

Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? 

So many hot takes it's hard to keep up, but I liked this one better, what's the problem with them restructuring and issuing 900 M shares ? Why would that be bad (except because you said that would never happen)?

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Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially...

Dude it’s not that big of a deal. We aren’t splitting the atom here or saving the world. People are allowed to disagree with you. Especially when they present evidence to back them up. (This is usually where you post a meme or music video because your out of comebacks). 

You call anyone who disagrees with you a vitard and act like you don’t attack anyone. Your shtick is tired. 

You’re axe to grind here is fans of ktm saying there quality has been better then another brand and you make it your personal mission to burn ktm at the stake FOR an opinion of someone you don’t even know, probably never will.  You might be a fine person in real life but your social skills in this setting are severally lacking. I’m worried this place is hurting your mental health. Maybe take a few weeks off and come back refreshed. 

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That's not my axe to grind here. In fact I mention it because the comment I was taken to the mate on was the only reason...

That's not my axe to grind here. In fact I mention it because the comment I was taken to the mate on was the only reason for that particular post when another member showed failures(not me). The dozen of other posts in the KTM threads have zero to do with getting dissed in the other thread. Maybe you need to stop trying to analyze every thing I do. I can't remember a single time your reasoning has been correct.

We are back in the rent free zone evidently.

Yea dude when you make troll posts your going to get trolled back. 

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Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? So...

Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 

Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? 

So many hot takes it's hard to keep up, but I liked this one better, what's the problem with them restructuring and issuing 900 M shares ? Why would that be bad (except because you said that would never happen)?

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It would be bad for anyone that held shares before this mess and continues to hold them as it dilutes their holdings. 

The company needs cash infusion though so it likely will come in the form of stock issuance. 

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Yea dude when you make troll posts your going to get trolled back. 

Then why do you complain complain?

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Beagle wrote:
Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? So...

Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 

Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? 

So many hot takes it's hard to keep up, but I liked this one better, what's the problem with them restructuring and issuing 900 M shares ? Why would that be bad (except because you said that would never happen)?

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I said it would never happen? More lies. I said the stock is going bye, bye. How many shares they issue is irrelevant.

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Beagle wrote:
Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? So...

Sorry it's been over 500 M for 3 weeks 👍 

Now you're questioning the need for an extraordinary general assembly to validate restructuring and issuing new shares? 

So many hot takes it's hard to keep up, but I liked this one better, what's the problem with them restructuring and issuing 900 M shares ? Why would that be bad (except because you said that would never happen)?

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I said it would never happen? More lies. I said the stock is going bye, bye. How many shares they issue is irrelevant.

So you believe ktm won’t exist?  Because no one is coming through with enough capital to take it private. 

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So by issuing more shares don’t they essentially devalue the existing shares? Am I thinking about that correctly?

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There not going to sell many bikes.  Fri report American cc dept is now 1.1 trillion the highest ever.  Last 3 months it went up 23+...

There not going to sell many bikes.  Fri report American cc dept is now 1.1 trillion the highest ever.  Last 3 months it went up 23+ billion. Worst yet most people r defaulting on there cc,s.  Banks then crash. I talked to my boss lastnight about rates etc.  there is no freight , the west has the lowest volume and rates as low as .50 that’s to the co Not the driver. That’s all the western states.  Tx. Is dead  pay is above Cal. But not by much.  The southeast is dead this means there’s no loads , pay 1.30 cpm.   The northeast much higher but the 700-1000 a day tolls take that away. Most co.s r staying out .plus it tears equipment up & drivers burn out from fatigue . Wi. Is paying the highest short runs to the Midwest.  Other upper Midwest states r paying the 2nd highest.  This is because of the gnarly winter .   Tariffs will hurt big time, drop the volume. But the 3 billion Ktm debt or whatever it is .  Is small potatoes compared to 30-80’billion debt some trucking companies.s r in.  There might not be a co to deliver a bike left.  A lot of buyouts going on . When a trucking company buys another out . They take on there billions of debt.  Rates crashed in Feb 2021 so did contracts.  Now there debt is out of control . Some ceo ,s of trucking company.s hv a board of directors. They vote to give themselves 35 -150 mil bonuses plus a base of 17 mil . The rest of the board gets millions too . It’s all corruption , buddy deals , government kickbacks on 40 million visa workers since 08.  Bringing in millions of illegals & the handouts the gov gave them .  Blew everything up 

This is interesting as the Ports of LA and LB are having record volumes of imports? 

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So by issuing more shares don’t they essentially devalue the existing shares? Am I thinking about that correctly?

Yes.

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Team403 wrote:

So by issuing more shares don’t they essentially devalue the existing shares? Am I thinking about that correctly?

Yeah it's called stock dilution. 

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MxAddic wrote:

I have an even better question. How many shares do you add to inject 900M into a 400M market cap company?

Beagle wrote:
If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.Also if...

If you want an actual discussion, how about clicking the links and reading the words?

900 millions euros translates into up to 16 898 267 shares.

Also if you could stop making up numbers... here is an exercise for you: if 900 millions corresponds to 50% of the company current share capital, how much is the capital? Take it easy.

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900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?Unless my math is worse than...

900M is not 50% of anything that I can tell. What formula are you using? What numbers have I made up?

Unless my math is worse than your’s the only way a shareholder vote fails is if Bajaj sticks it up Stefan’s ass. The common folk holding stock are powerless. Any rights they may have are immaterial. Reading 87 pages of horseshit is not my cup of tea.

Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?

If you were the type to educate yourself before speaking you would have realized the documents Beagle posted aren't anywhere close to 87 pages, and the pertinent information can be found in one 5 page document. Even if that takes you a half day to read, isn't it worth it to educate yourself?

I'm sorry someone said something mean about your Kawasaki.

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Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?If you were the type to...

Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?

If you were the type to educate yourself before speaking you would have realized the documents Beagle posted aren't anywhere close to 87 pages, and the pertinent information can be found in one 5 page document. Even if that takes you a half day to read, isn't it worth it to educate yourself?

I'm sorry someone said something mean about your Kawasaki.

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GrapeApe wrote:
Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?If you were the type to...

Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?

If you were the type to educate yourself before speaking you would have realized the documents Beagle posted aren't anywhere close to 87 pages, and the pertinent information can be found in one 5 page document. Even if that takes you a half day to read, isn't it worth it to educate yourself?

I'm sorry someone said something mean about your Kawasaki.

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And there it is. 

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GrapeApe wrote:
Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?If you were the type to...

Does it embarrass you at all to admit you are not reading much less comprehending documents upon which you are commenting?

If you were the type to educate yourself before speaking you would have realized the documents Beagle posted aren't anywhere close to 87 pages, and the pertinent information can be found in one 5 page document. Even if that takes you a half day to read, isn't it worth it to educate yourself?

I'm sorry someone said something mean about your Kawasaki.

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And there it is. 

I was expecting a music video . . . mildly disappointed.

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