The time for manufacturers, aftermarket companies, riders, and fans to come together is now.

Wait a minute..... you want the Industry to step up and help with a major issue that literally affects their bottom line.... 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's a fucking good one man.

Been there, done that, bought the tshirt. I will save you a lot of heartache, nobody gives a shit. If they tell you they give a shit, they don't.

Instead of being a defeatist maybe offer the guy some advice and wish him well?

If you’re Honda, Yam, or Kaw when the tracks close - those people just buy SXS or Waverunners instead- product diversification is key.  KTM should be leading the charge as they have more to lose.

its interesting to me that Yam pulled the plug on emtbs as I thought this was also another Ave for ex-Mx market guys.

Not sure what can be done, if anything. It's been going on for decades, just exponentially worse now.

Need to find a few states where there's a chance of it passing and enough jobs created there by industry to make some state legislators care. Other than personal injury lawyers there shouldn't be much opposition. Insurance industry should be for it. Seems like moto has foot in the door with Utah sports commission or whatever it's called? Lot of industry in Idaho it seems. Get it passed in a few places like that and it makes it much easier to bring to other states. 

Embarrassing that AMA isn't way ahead of a message board on this. 

The track owners need some protection.  The state of Texas quite a few years ago put laws in place to protect home builders.  It’s hard to get litigation against a major home builder.  It was explained to me by an attorney, had major issues with a new home we had built but got,it worked out.  

Why should the AMA get involved, it doesn't affect Harley riders or their motorcycle lifestyle...

The AMA is way too busy fighting helmet laws for street bikers and keeping Starks from racing.

Forkner said this the last time he rode in Oklahoma:

Like, for sure, like, like yeah no, like, like, we pulled, yeah for sure, can’t thank like, found something like, yeah, like

Can we all agree?

There are no special laws protecting homebuilders in Texas, sort of the opposite

Trust me pal, I and my wife tried and tried. At the brink of neglecting my business and family responsibilities to the point of malpractice to promote the sport we all espouse to be so dedicated and hardcore about an epiphany came to me. None of this shit is new, the unreturned correspondences, the lack of organization, the irresponsibility, the apathy of the participants, and the neglectful use of public land has been plaguing this sport since the sport evolved. I was naive and arrogant enough to assume if it was me who tried to further the cause of this sport, it would happen. I weaseled myself into a position with my state government's department of natural resources (DCNR) to help our "cause", and it was an exercise in futility. I would go to meetings and see the organization and coordination of ATV, equestrian, mountain biking, and snowmobiling groups and be genuinely jealous, realizing I was alone there, having no chance competing for public funds and land with these organizational juggernauts. I extended the hours of my days sending countless emails and letters to manufacturers, magazines, race organizers/promoters, podcasters (I believe ML received several), aftermarket, the AMA, anybody who could give me an economic or social impact angle. Nobody responded back to me except Coombs (God bless them). The public narrative about dirt bikes is negative, and our manufacturers, organizers and participants are fractured, combative, and apathetic. And as far as Grape's comments, I am not being defeatist but a realist. 

We'd do well as a group to shame those who sue. How ridiculous is it to sue a track when you crash there? Nobody but you is responsible for your crash - you decided to ride that day, in those conditions, on that track. (Or allowed your kid to do so.)

A lot the insurance executives know about our sport are very public potrayals like the Xgames, Travis jumping in the bay, and half of the pro racers in the sport getting injured before their season ends. Insurance companies are in business to make money, not be to be fair. You take a sport which defines itself very publicly by the injuries it's participant's receive or it's gnarliness, plus the fact children participate, I find it hard to believe any track can get any insurance.

We need representation besides the AMA. Until we are capable of organizing, compromising within ourselves, recognizing outsiders viewpoints, and sacrificing that will not happen.

We'd be a lot better off if we had an organization like this that encouraged everyone to get involved and give back.

How many aftermarket companies out there don't even put a single dollar back into preserving the sport?  

https://www.fishandwildlife.org/

Edit to add: If you downvoted this you are a complete tool and obviously don't actually care about the future of the sport, do us all a favor and go away.

There has to be a moto guy who’s a specialist in the Property/Casualty side of insurance that can start to connect the dots. Use their relationship with an insurance company to help them truly understand the risks associated and put together a package to offer track owners a reasonable option. If you got enough interest from track owners and a good chunk of the tracks in the US would purchase it, an insurance company will put something together. 
 

If something like this could be put together it'd eliminate the need for the AMA to be involved in a lot of local racing too.

Win-win.

Don't lose sleep over it boys.

The key would be a sort of registration system for dirt bikes with the proceeds going for the sport's benefit. It wouldn't need to be adminstered by government sources, perhaps a group less flaccid and ineffectual than the AMA. The biggest obstacle to a system like this would be the participants themselves.

we are our own worst enemy.

want proof?

review threads discussing noise, split practices, riding fees, or jumps that "separate the men from the boys".

Not a bad idea, it may work if we could bring multiple tracks, like 50+ to an insurance company and they could all go to the same carrier. That way we stand a chance for an underwriter/actuary actually attempting to understand the real risk. It would also help them spread risk and make the "package" (everyone would have their own policy) more desirable. 

I'm happy to help with this. We'd need basics. Location, attendance, income, loss runs. All of that kind of stuff which would be no small task.