JACKRABBIT HILLS - CARSON, ca.

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I used to "Cow-trail" from my house on Western and Carson to Normandie, then down a dirt back alley East across Figueroa, Vermont, then, Main Street. to JACKRABBIT HILLS. (Across the 405 from the GOOD YEAR BLIMP)
People lucky enough to live near the deserts and mountains always had a place to get out and ride, but we had to dodge the cops to get in (And out) of Jackrabbit almost every weekend in the 70s and early 80s.
I used to see many racers practice there. I saw many big name pros, local pros, amateurs, and even magazine editors from Dirt Bike and others.
A kid and his family from my neighborhood were in the original "Gone in 60 seconds" because they were there flying RC planes on the little blacktop located in the middle of this place that had to be approx. 40 acres.
I would pack a lunch and make a day of it. Most of my friends from school rode there.
Bill Boyer, Danny Matis, Greg and Blake Vitali, and many others. I use to see Donnie Luce out there. (Yamaha Quad Racing Team Manager) Donnie and I raced in the 125 class for a while at Ascot. Let me know if you know this place. A lot of great memories!
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3/15/2009 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:56pm
Chris:

Is that the same place as Dominguez Hills? If so I used to ride my Penton 250 & my Maico 440 there. we used to have a sort of MX track & a bunch of trails.
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3/15/2009 5:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:57pm
I used to ride there fairly regularly. Jeff Jennings turned me on to it. We never called it "Jack Rabbit," we just called it "405" since it was right next to the 405 freeway. It was really hard-pack, so it was good practice for Saddleback or Carlsbad. And with the gullies, mounds and slopes you could get creative and put together a pretty technical practice lap, complete with drops, jumps, off-cambers and whoop sections. Good stuff! I remember doing laps there until I'd either run out of gas or exhaust myself. My rule for myself there was that if I was getting so tired that fell more than once a lap, it was time to go.


You might remember the slope that came up perpendicular to the freeway, then it was flat on top and sloped down the other side. One day Jennings was clearing the whole top on his Wheelsmith Maico. He'd done it a few times until finally, about ten feet in the air, his throttle assembly slipped off the end of his handlebar! He stepped off and landed hard. He let me ride his Maico the rest of the afternoon. Wow, what a Cadillac compared to the RM I had at the time. I got my own Maico not long after that. The next morning JJ woke up to a foot the size and shape of a cantaloupe----it turned out that he'd broken it-----again! He spent the next few weeks in plaster.


When I worked in Long Beach, in the summer time I'd take my bike to work with me on my Toyota PU and after work I'd head over to get in some riding. That was so cool being able to get in an hour or three of riding before it got dark! I'd always stay far away from the mobile home park since the folks there were likely the ones who'd call the cops. But just in case I'd always leave my loading ramp set up on my tailgate so that when the police arrived (probably 1/4 of the time) I'd just ride right up the ramp and start taking off my gear. They'd pull up and tell me "You can't ride here," and there I'd be, taking off my gear and saying, "Oh? Well I was just leaving." That always worked...I never got a ticket there once!


Eventually it got too popular and some of the other regulars were getting cited again and again and I stopped going there. The last time I was in SoCal I drove by on the 405 and it looks like most of the terrain is still there. Hmmm, maybe someone with a quiet electric bike could get away with riding there....


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3/15/2009 10:24pm
Cool story.

I work in Rancho Dominguez so I drive by the Goodyear blimp often. I always dreamed of sneaking into the area you described to ride because it's just a dirt field. Pretty cool to know the area was actually a riding spot.

My co-worker said when he was a kid he would ride his Honda scrambler all over the hills in Rancho Dominguez. I asked him what hills? He laughed and told me it was a fun place to ride.
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3/16/2009 8:35pm
bigmaico wrote:
Chris: Is that the same place as Dominguez Hills? If so I used to ride my Penton 250 & my Maico 440 there. we used to...
Chris:

Is that the same place as Dominguez Hills? If so I used to ride my Penton 250 & my Maico 440 there. we used to have a sort of MX track & a bunch of trails.
Yes! They called it that too. That's were I spend most every daylight weekend hour.
From my first motorcycle, (A Yamaha Mini Enduro), to my (Dale Lewis) Maico 450 Magnum.

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trick121 wrote:
Cool story. I work in Rancho Dominguez so I drive by the Goodyear blimp often. I always dreamed of sneaking into the area you described to...
Cool story.

I work in Rancho Dominguez so I drive by the Goodyear blimp often. I always dreamed of sneaking into the area you described to ride because it's just a dirt field. Pretty cool to know the area was actually a riding spot.

My co-worker said when he was a kid he would ride his Honda scrambler all over the hills in Rancho Dominguez. I asked him what hills? He laughed and told me it was a fun place to ride.
Hey Trick,
Well, it wasn't exactly an "Official" riding place. It was always private property. The cops just seldom came in after us. They did try to get us coming and going though.
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3/16/2009 8:44pm
Bigfoot,
Every person whos ever purchased that property has lost their ass. I still drive by on the 405 from time to time. It look like they're finally going to do some major construction.
I always have a BIG SIGH each time I pass it.

I grew up in the area. When I was a kid my dad would take us out to eat at the "Golden Bull" right next door to Jackrabbit. They had a golf course and trampolines! I would always try to talk the folks into springing for a "Tramp Sesson". M-E-M-O-R-I-E-S
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We called it Dominguez Hills, which I think was the name of that little chip and putt nine hole next to the freeway.
We use to "cow trail" down to it as much as we could. I think we took the railroad tracks from the Mobil plant on 190th and Hawthorne blvd to get there, using any piece of dirt we could find and we were always dodging cops and the railroad police and more busted glass than our tires could take. The amount of times we use to side saddle the bike to cross intersections was gross !!!!

I'm also pretty sure that the really fast guy that would lap you was meTongue
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3/17/2009 11:00am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:58pm
maicoman wrote:
We called it Dominguez Hills, which I think was the name of that little chip and putt nine hole next to the freeway. We use to...
We called it Dominguez Hills, which I think was the name of that little chip and putt nine hole next to the freeway.
We use to "cow trail" down to it as much as we could. I think we took the railroad tracks from the Mobil plant on 190th and Hawthorne blvd to get there, using any piece of dirt we could find and we were always dodging cops and the railroad police and more busted glass than our tires could take. The amount of times we use to side saddle the bike to cross intersections was gross !!!!

I'm also pretty sure that the really fast guy that would lap you was meTongue
That is so cool.
I'm sure they're many of us old farts out there who loved riding this place. I'll dig through the archives and find a photo of me from there. I think I'm logging a little flight time on my old RM. (It wasn't old then)

190th? Did you go to North? Did you know Brian McCormick, or Mark Sager?
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3/17/2009 12:15pm
maicoman wrote:
We called it Dominguez Hills, which I think was the name of that little chip and putt nine hole next to the freeway. We use to...
We called it Dominguez Hills, which I think was the name of that little chip and putt nine hole next to the freeway.
We use to "cow trail" down to it as much as we could. I think we took the railroad tracks from the Mobil plant on 190th and Hawthorne blvd to get there, using any piece of dirt we could find and we were always dodging cops and the railroad police and more busted glass than our tires could take. The amount of times we use to side saddle the bike to cross intersections was gross !!!!

I'm also pretty sure that the really fast guy that would lap you was meTongue
What are you talking about? No one ever lapped me! ;-O !!!
How the hell do you post a photo on this site??
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3/17/2009 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:58pm
OK, I figured it out. (Just cut and paste)

Check out the cool blue jeans and the wide leather belt! (Tre-chic)
RM with super-trick tank cover!

Anyone know that guy who is blocking my photo??? Nylon vest, no shirt. Latest in 80s moto wear!

JACKRABBIT / DOMINGUEZ HILLS - CARSON, CA.
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3/17/2009 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2009 12:37pm
OK, I'll throw you guys a curve...Who remembers "MAYFAIR CREAMERY" A little toxic dump oil area the refineries owned behind Mayfair Creamery off Western Ave between Torrance Blvd and 190th. (Hey, we had to ride where we could)
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North High '76, the Sager name rings a bell???? I rode a lot with a Greg Lackey who rode a RM 125.

How about the place that is now the overpass on 190th and Prairie? Back in the day Prairie ended at 190th and there was a great area south of the corner. I'm not sure what kind of chemical waste we rode in ,but the cops would leave us alone most the time. From there you could ride the tracks to a bunch of spots from the Union Carbide plant in El Segundo as far as the LA Harbor.

As for the pictures, you have to post them on a photo share place, then use the "photo" dealio. Do a search for a better explanation.
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3/17/2009 12:52pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:58pm
Oops, how'd that get in there?

Ooops, sorry. How'd that get in there??
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I see you got the picture deal down pat . lmao !!!
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OK, I'll throw you guys a curve...Who remembers "MAYFAIR CREAMERY" A little toxic dump oil area the refineries owned behind Mayfair Creamery off Western Ave between...
OK, I'll throw you guys a curve...Who remembers "MAYFAIR CREAMERY" A little toxic dump oil area the refineries owned behind Mayfair Creamery off Western Ave between Torrance Blvd and 190th. (Hey, we had to ride where we could)
not sure if it's the same place, but the corner of Del Amo and Van Ness was where we rode, then Garrett had to build there.
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3/17/2009 1:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:58pm
YES! That's it!!! It's been so long, and I transplanted myself to Ventura County. Remember, the ground was all dark and oily. It did have some cool trails and jumps though.
We also use to drag race down Van Ness on Saturday nights. (Before the cops got tough on drag racing) I had a 67 Ranchero with a 289. Sometimes I would race my H1 500 Kaw Triple. Are you from my old neighborhood? I grew up on Western and 215th St.
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I just Google mapped it and it's no longer a field !

Funny, not only did I lap you on the bike but took your money at the drags!! Do you remember a '69 root beer brown Cuda? We made a lot money down there with that car.

How about a Jimmy Welch, he lived over by you and had a CR 250 Elsi, his glasses were thick as coke bottles. At that time I lived off of Prairie and 182.
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thanks for the photo help.




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Ooops, sorry. How'd that get in there??
Oops, how'd that get in there?

Ooops, sorry. How'd that get in there??
Nice Hat !
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HMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm
Not sure how, but I know I'll get the blame for this.
*Seems to be a popular pose, huh?
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What has happened to this wholesome family blog???? ;-)~
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Ooops, sorry. How'd that get in there??
Oops, how'd that get in there?

Ooops, sorry. How'd that get in there??
Slow ~ Pro wrote:
Nice Hat !
What hat? I don't see a hat.
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this hat

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NICE HAT! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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3/20/2009 5:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:01pm
I just saw Bill Boyer yesterday for the first time in over 20 years. He married a girl that was one grade behind us. They both work at Honda. And Bill's wife works with Roger De Coster. (Wait, doesn't he work for Suzuki?) OK, maybe she works for Suzuki.

I mentioned talking to you about Jimmy Welsh with the coke bottles and Elsinore 250. He said there were about 3 boys in that family. Does that sound right? I vaguely remember Jimmy. Wasn't he pretty fast for a while?

*ATTENTION - IF ANYONE HAS PHOTOS OF A FAVORITE OLD OUTLAW RIDING SPOT
FROM BACK IN THE DAY. PLEASE POST.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF US THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE OLD PHOTOS OF "JACKRABBIT HILLS" (DOMINGUEZ HILLS - CARSON), HARBOR CITY SLOUGH, MAYFAIR CREAMERY (DEL AMO AND VAN NESS - TORRANCE) OR WHEREVER.

THANKS!!!

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Wasn't that place called "hole in the fence"? Some of the early factory riders for Honda rode there.
6/25/2010 4:52am
No pictures but when I worked at FMF we did testing in Long Beach by the Queen Mary until the police showed up.
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I remember that place. it was just east of the fifty foot golfer. the mini-golf place. it had the hills rt. next to the fwy. that you jumped down and then 180'd back up. I had forgot about that cool spot. I use to go there with cliff lett and bob oliver when we worked at FMF.we went there on our xr 75's more than the big bikes. really a lot of fun on a mini.
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No pictures but when I worked at FMF we did testing in Long Beach by the Queen Mary until the police showed up.
went there too.I lived in north long beach so it was rt. down the fwy. for me. there was a small track there kinda built around a bowl. good for sand practice. went there with steve potts from pacific coast honda.
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maicoman wrote:
North High '76, the Sager name rings a bell???? I rode a lot with a Greg Lackey who rode a RM 125. How about the place...
North High '76, the Sager name rings a bell???? I rode a lot with a Greg Lackey who rode a RM 125.

How about the place that is now the overpass on 190th and Prairie? Back in the day Prairie ended at 190th and there was a great area south of the corner. I'm not sure what kind of chemical waste we rode in ,but the cops would leave us alone most the time. From there you could ride the tracks to a bunch of spots from the Union Carbide plant in El Segundo as far as the LA Harbor.

As for the pictures, you have to post them on a photo share place, then use the "photo" dealio. Do a search for a better explanation.
rode there too. I remember it being called a different name: n----r slew. it had pch to the north and anaheim to the south. harbor fwy on the east side and vermont on the west. use to see tim hart there on his org. montesa capra. since he rode for comp. service on gaffey it was close for him. anyway, that place was huge. the 1st time I went there I was riding, get this, a sachs 80. all black w/a red tank. for a 80 it was actually pretty quick. handled great. I have'nt thought about that bike for a long time. that's whats great about this site. the memories....

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