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ando wrote:
Points gap between 1 and 2 after 6 rounds.  * denotes that the points leader after round 6 was not the eventual title winner.2024 - 522023...

Points gap between 1 and 2 after 6 rounds.  * denotes that the points leader after round 6 was not the eventual title winner.

2024 - 52

2023 - 5*

2022 - 15

2021 - 6*

2020 - 3

2019 - 23

2018 - 23

2017 - 38

2016 - 11

2015 - 7*

2014 - 23

2013 - 7*

2012 - 19

2011 - 14

2010 - 33*

2009 - 9*

2008 - 95

2007 - 0

2006 - 3

2005 - 16*

I've only gone back 20 years but this year was the second highest points lead after six rounds, only the fourth time in twenty years that the points leader had more than a one moto lead, and only the second time that the lead was more than two motos.

LungButter wrote:
So what your saying is that other than RV nobody has been able to dominate through 6 rounds like Haiden?Thats pretty good company little Deegs is...

So what your saying is that other than RV nobody has been able to dominate through 6 rounds like Haiden?


Thats pretty good company little Deegs is keeping. 

Thanks for pulling those stats to confirm the kids a fucking bad ass, much appreciated. 

I just looked up 2004, Bubba had a 53 point lead after Budds Creek.., ROUND 4!!!! crazy. 
 

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ando wrote:
Points gap between 1 and 2 after 6 rounds.  * denotes that the points leader after round 6 was not the eventual title winner.2024 - 522023...

Points gap between 1 and 2 after 6 rounds.  * denotes that the points leader after round 6 was not the eventual title winner.

2024 - 52

2023 - 5*

2022 - 15

2021 - 6*

2020 - 3

2019 - 23

2018 - 23

2017 - 38

2016 - 11

2015 - 7*

2014 - 23

2013 - 7*

2012 - 19

2011 - 14

2010 - 33*

2009 - 9*

2008 - 95

2007 - 0

2006 - 3

2005 - 16*

I've only gone back 20 years but this year was the second highest points lead after six rounds, only the fourth time in twenty years that the points leader had more than a one moto lead, and only the second time that the lead was more than two motos.

LungButter wrote:
So what your saying is that other than RV nobody has been able to dominate through 6 rounds like Haiden?Thats pretty good company little Deegs is...

So what your saying is that other than RV nobody has been able to dominate through 6 rounds like Haiden?


Thats pretty good company little Deegs is keeping. 

Thanks for pulling those stats to confirm the kids a fucking bad ass, much appreciated. 

Ha!  Yeah I guess you can interpret that any way you want.  

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Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

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tweedleD wrote:
Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there...

Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

No, it's choice number 3, he earned it. Much easier to get work done this way.

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tweedleD wrote:
Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there...

Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. 

If they could get STAR bikes, Tech Support, and Monster money without STAR they would probably be gone already. 

I'd bet we see the Monster Energy/Deegan Racing/ MX Only Fans/ Tik Tok/ Social Media Influencer Team on the side of a semi as soon as daddy Deegan can make it happen. 

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tweedleD wrote:
Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there...

Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

Paul333 wrote:
Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. If they could get STAR bikes, Tech...

Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. 

If they could get STAR bikes, Tech Support, and Monster money without STAR they would probably be gone already. 

I'd bet we see the Monster Energy/Deegan Racing/ MX Only Fans/ Tik Tok/ Social Media Influencer Team on the side of a semi as soon as daddy Deegan can make it happen. 

Tomac has a special track just for him in CO. He must hate Star too

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tweedleD wrote:
Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there...

Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

Paul333 wrote:
Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. If they could get STAR bikes, Tech...

Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. 

If they could get STAR bikes, Tech Support, and Monster money without STAR they would probably be gone already. 

I'd bet we see the Monster Energy/Deegan Racing/ MX Only Fans/ Tik Tok/ Social Media Influencer Team on the side of a semi as soon as daddy Deegan can make it happen. 

I think it's clear Bobby and Star are blowing the Deegans more than the other way around. The Deegans are right to do their own thing BTW, no one owes anyone anything beyond what's stipulated in their contracts.  Despite all this bullshit about teams being 'families', they really aren't and we all know how ruthless Bobby can be. 

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11/13/2024 9:10pm

Distancing themselves away from Pierce B already.

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I just looked up 2004, Bubba had a 53 point lead after Budds Creek.., ROUND 4!!!! crazy. 
 

On a 125 against 250Fs, too. 

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Maybe Brian buys or becomes a partner in the team? Star was sponsored by Mulisha years ago in its infancy.

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Distancing themselves away from Pierce B already.

huh?

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Distancing themselves away from Pierce B already.

TAUTOG wrote:

huh?

His teammate, I think he beat Deeg's for an overall late last year.

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Whatever they do I'm sure the same ol' folks are gonna be pissed off about it and claim that their emotional take that they made up in their head is fact.  

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If you look how the riders are going who are trained by the team, I would also go solo.

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Distancing themselves away from Pierce B already.

TAUTOG wrote:

huh?

kxking wrote:

His teammate, I think he beat Deeg's for an overall late last year.

I don’t think anyone except the Dig Dugs fear Pierce “5-9” Brown

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Distancing themselves away from Pierce B already.

TAUTOG wrote:

huh?

kxking wrote:

His teammate, I think he beat Deeg's for an overall late last year.

Does he really think Deegan is worried about him? LOL

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tweedleD wrote:
Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there...

Does anybody else finding it interesting that the Deegans got an SX track built just for Hayden? I would assume Christian will work with him there too, but to me there's 2 reasons this could happen.
1. HD and Brian feel they need to be more secretive about the work/technique/training they are doing away from Star facility... or
2. With the departure of so many previous Star riders... Star has figured out other riders dont love the Deegan aura and wanted to tame Bryan and Hayden down a little to which they said we will do our own thing. 

Additionally it looks like Hayden and Christian are silohed a little in that theyve been training together when Swannie usually seems to have the group together. 
Interesting as these 2 things (compound and training) could shed light on the future of HD's career path. 

Paul333 wrote:
Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. If they could get STAR bikes, Tech...

Let's face it, the Deegans don't really want to part of STAR anymore. They feel they don't need them anymore. 

If they could get STAR bikes, Tech Support, and Monster money without STAR they would probably be gone already. 

I'd bet we see the Monster Energy/Deegan Racing/ MX Only Fans/ Tik Tok/ Social Media Influencer Team on the side of a semi as soon as daddy Deegan can make it happen. 

Tomac has a special track just for him in CO. He must hate Star too

LOL 🤣.

You just put Deegan and Tomac on the same level. 🤦‍♂️

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Because he’s potentially a threat, despite what they are willing to admit

72 wins is a lot harder with a rival trading W’s

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Deegan has one title. Maybe pump the brakes a little. 

Bingo

 

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Because he’s potentially a threat, despite what they are willing to admit

72 wins is a lot harder with a rival trading W’s

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Deegan has one title. Maybe pump the brakes a little. 

Paul333 wrote:

Bingo

 

How many did Jett have going into his third full season?

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Deegan has one title. Maybe pump the brakes a little. 

Paul333 wrote:

Bingo

 

How many did Jett have going into his third full season?

No one was saying Jett was going to challenge Tomac, Webb, etc. after 1 title. 

Edit: As I previously mentioned, pump the brakes. 

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Paul333 wrote:

Bingo

 

How many did Jett have going into his third full season?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

No one was saying Jett was going to challenge Tomac, Webb, etc. after 1 title. 

Edit: As I previously mentioned, pump the brakes. 

NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

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NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

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11/14/2024 2:46pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

Deegan has one title. Maybe pump the brakes a little. 

Paul333 wrote:

Bingo

 

How many did Jett have going into his third full season?

As many as Justin Bogle

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NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

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11/14/2024 3:31pm

NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

Can't wait for those two over the top fan bases to collide 😂

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

crusty_xx wrote:

Can't wait for those two over the top fan bases to collide 😂

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NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

And then get this...DonM comes into a Deegan thread and says, "Take your personal feelings out"

Audience:  "AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

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NO ONE was? Not a single person? Hmmm

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

Lets be honest here, there way crazy hype because JL just went 22-0 in his first attempt on a 450.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Not like people are pumping up Deegan.

Wilson also won a title...

DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

gerg wrote:

And then get this...DonM comes into a Deegan thread and says, "Take your personal feelings out"

Audience:  "AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

Shocker that you totally missed the point....

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DonM wrote:
Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he...

Come on Mav are you really saying that people are worse with Deegan than they were with Jett...who can forget the 72 wins threads before he even had one win...Take your personal feelings out and you will see that both have over the top fans making outlandish claims that only time can answer...

No feelings at all. I don't recall Vital talking about Jett going for 72+ wins before he won his first 250 SX title. That talked seems to have started after his video segment where he mentioned that he'd like to get as close as possible to MCs record. People twisted his words and started saying "Jett said he'll beat MCs record. Hahaha." Jett never said he was going to beat it. Only that it was a goal, and there's nothing wrong with setting goals. 

Then you have people saying: "72 wins is a lot harder with a rival trading W’s" all before he even won a regional SX title or 450 main event. Some are even saying Jett's time is already up and that Deegan will lay waste on everyone. C'mon man, baby steps. He'll have to deal with Sexton, Hunter, JCoop, Webb, ... Before getting to Jett. None of those guys are slouches.

Both sides have over the top fans. No different than the Stewart and Jason Lawrence fanboys of old saying they're both making a comeback years after they left the track for their final time. 😄

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