when does the B.S. stop?...

6/1/2010 11:27am
Yes, quite a nicely shaped nose, thank you.

As I said earlier, pointless, and now just circling the bowl with stupidity. What an -f'ed-up place, this MX forum.
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6/1/2010 11:34am
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...at the 2011 DesNations... Look at history... who wins, right now?... The U.S., thats who... The U.S. will be there with a funded effort, with the...
...at the 2011 DesNations...

Look at history... who wins, right now?... The U.S., thats who... The U.S. will be there with a funded effort, with the focus on winning... not "WHINNING"... not crap talk... no if, ands, or buts... just the results... The only thing that counts right now is paying the bills, you do that by winning, if you are a racer... They were racing a G.P., last time I checked- that is European -they call it what they want- however, it means nothing "IF" you race the Nationals in the U.S. ... Some racers, albeit, very few, come to the U.S. , Why is that... They are usually the very best where they come from... They have to, at the least, see themselves that way... I've been racing since 1972... I remember when the euros were the ones to beat. even when they came over and competed in the "Trans U.S.A." or A.K.A. the "Trans AMA". but things changed... That Race they called the U.S.G.P. at Glen Helen, if attendance and participation have a say- wasn't a successful event when compared to a successful US event... Why wasn't there more participation?...

Why wasn't there more spectators?...

Why don't our best go to Europe to compete?...

Why isn't there more interest in the Euro Motocross, in the U.S.?...

Why do our best Road Racers go to Europe?...

Why don't we have F1?...

Why do we race Indy Cars, and they don't?...

Why do they go saloon racing?... We don't?...

Why don't they race Nascar over there?...

etc. etc. etc. ...

The answers are easy for most to see, we like football, as in the New Orleans Saints they enjoy soccer... What?... We are different, but the answers are black and white... The dribble needs to stop... Someone, and you know who you are, needs to deal with reality,- just a little better...

BMan-
a good comeback could have been; No, not having an understanding episode, just a mind reading episode... What about the topic? You don't have to read any minds to face that challenge, now do ya?.... Genius...Huh
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6/1/2010 11:37am
broman64 wrote:
...at the 2011 DesNations... Look at history... who wins, right now?... The U.S., thats who... The U.S. will be there with a funded effort, with the...
...at the 2011 DesNations...

Look at history... who wins, right now?... The U.S., thats who... The U.S. will be there with a funded effort, with the focus on winning... not "WHINNING"... not crap talk... no if, ands, or buts... just the results... The only thing that counts right now is paying the bills, you do that by winning, if you are a racer... They were racing a G.P., last time I checked- that is European -they call it what they want- however, it means nothing "IF" you race the Nationals in the U.S. ... Some racers, albeit, very few, come to the U.S. , Why is that... They are usually the very best where they come from... They have to, at the least, see themselves that way... I've been racing since 1972... I remember when the euros were the ones to beat. even when they came over and competed in the "Trans U.S.A." or A.K.A. the "Trans AMA". but things changed... That Race they called the U.S.G.P. at Glen Helen, if attendance and participation have a say- wasn't a successful event when compared to a successful US event... Why wasn't there more participation?...

Why wasn't there more spectators?...

Why don't our best go to Europe to compete?...

Why isn't there more interest in the Euro Motocross, in the U.S.?...

Why do our best Road Racers go to Europe?...

Why don't we have F1?...

Why do we race Indy Cars, and they don't?...

Why do they go saloon racing?... We don't?...

Why don't they race Nascar over there?...

etc. etc. etc. ...

The answers are easy for most to see, we like football, as in the New Orleans Saints they enjoy soccer... What?... We are different, but the answers are black and white... The dribble needs to stop... Someone, and you know who you are, needs to deal with reality,- just a little better...

BMan-
broman64 wrote:
a good comeback could have been; No, not having an understanding episode, just a mind reading episode... What about the topic? You don't have to read...
a good comeback could have been; No, not having an understanding episode, just a mind reading episode... What about the topic? You don't have to read any minds to face that challenge, now do ya?.... Genius...Huh
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Yeah it took reading minds to link jamma10s response to something a few posts before... but I have the understanding problemWoohoo carry on you old fool .
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6/1/2010 12:50pm
I would just like to say that the OP's view is not reflective of all Americans views of the GP riders.

Honestly, I think that their are those special individuals that can ride a motorbike fast if given the proper support from all parts of the globe.

The idea that Americans or Europeans are somehow superior is just silly. They are just a bit different do to a different set of circumstances. And it's just riding a dirt bike around in circles fast anyways. Who the eff cares?

For gosh sake every American Pro as well as fan has 90% European blood pumping thru their veins anyways. Ain't none of them Native Americans. We might exclude Bubba from the 90% rule.

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6/1/2010 12:56pm
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this is my discussion, smart guy... get your facts straight or get out...

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6/1/2010 2:02pm
All humans are piratically the same, with no race or nationality being superior over another. Scientific studies support this.The reason USA dominates the Des Nations has...
All humans are piratically the same, with no race or nationality being superior over another. Scientific studies support this.



The reason USA dominates the Des Nations has less to do with us simply "being American" and more to do with the economic prosperity of the country, population density, square miles of the country, and progression of the sport in this region of the world (which is correlated to those factors). You're never going to see a 3rd world country win the Des Nations, as you're never going to see an over-populated country lacking motocross facilities winning one either. Does it even occur to people that America is just a melting pot of people anyways? Unless a Native American stacked team USA wins the Des Nations, no American team is technically winning it. Take James Stewart for instant. If he is on Team America, and we win, that's nothing more than a victory for South America. And look at Roger Decoster, who heads up team USA nearly every year. The dude is not even from this country!



I actually began a study on this. I may finish it and post it for the '10 Des Nations, when all this nationality bullshit starts to surface again. American's are a very prideful nation. We are also very ignorant in the eyes of other countries around the world.
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Nailed it .
I don't get it... James Stewart is from South America?
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6/1/2010 2:36pm
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in MXdN is as stupid as wondering why Jamaica doesn't have a bobsled team... Oh wait they do.

My point being, there are lots of great points in ol' Hank_Thrill's arguments just like there are in many others post's (unfortunately for every good post there is at least two moronic posts to skim through). Take for example the Olympics, certain countries don't have much snow therefore choose only to compete every 8 years when the only ice you can find at the games is in a coca-cola. When a country like Jamaica fields a bobsled team you don't expect them to win..they are happy to qualify and there is national pride in their country when they do so.

When America wins the most medals at an Olympic games or when the US wins the MXdN we understand that we as a country can afford the opportunity to become a contender for that title. Just like when France, Italy, Australia, Belgium, South Africa etc...show up to the MXdN they know that there is a legitimate chance of winning the thing. We Americans should not be less proud that we won even if we do have the best combination of economic prosperity, population density, or facilities. In fact, on the contrary having these opportunities probably makes the U.S. take loosing the MXdN harder than any other country.

Bottom Line: Come MXdN time we Americans should feel free to be as proud and root as hard for our country as any other country. But if we are the 2010 champs we can be as prideful as ever, however we need to carry our pride graciously.



Besides isn't the better argument which series, AMA or GP is stronger?
6/1/2010 3:05pm
BLAHBLAH wrote:
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in...
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in MXdN is as stupid as wondering why Jamaica doesn't have a bobsled team... Oh wait they do.

My point being, there are lots of great points in ol' Hank_Thrill's arguments just like there are in many others post's (unfortunately for every good post there is at least two moronic posts to skim through). Take for example the Olympics, certain countries don't have much snow therefore choose only to compete every 8 years when the only ice you can find at the games is in a coca-cola. When a country like Jamaica fields a bobsled team you don't expect them to win..they are happy to qualify and there is national pride in their country when they do so.

When America wins the most medals at an Olympic games or when the US wins the MXdN we understand that we as a country can afford the opportunity to become a contender for that title. Just like when France, Italy, Australia, Belgium, South Africa etc...show up to the MXdN they know that there is a legitimate chance of winning the thing. We Americans should not be less proud that we won even if we do have the best combination of economic prosperity, population density, or facilities. In fact, on the contrary having these opportunities probably makes the U.S. take loosing the MXdN harder than any other country.

Bottom Line: Come MXdN time we Americans should feel free to be as proud and root as hard for our country as any other country. But if we are the 2010 champs we can be as prideful as ever, however we need to carry our pride graciously.



Besides isn't the better argument which series, AMA or GP is stronger?
Well said.....
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6/1/2010 3:55pm
BLAHBLAH wrote:
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in...
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in MXdN is as stupid as wondering why Jamaica doesn't have a bobsled team... Oh wait they do.

My point being, there are lots of great points in ol' Hank_Thrill's arguments just like there are in many others post's (unfortunately for every good post there is at least two moronic posts to skim through). Take for example the Olympics, certain countries don't have much snow therefore choose only to compete every 8 years when the only ice you can find at the games is in a coca-cola. When a country like Jamaica fields a bobsled team you don't expect them to win..they are happy to qualify and there is national pride in their country when they do so.

When America wins the most medals at an Olympic games or when the US wins the MXdN we understand that we as a country can afford the opportunity to become a contender for that title. Just like when France, Italy, Australia, Belgium, South Africa etc...show up to the MXdN they know that there is a legitimate chance of winning the thing. We Americans should not be less proud that we won even if we do have the best combination of economic prosperity, population density, or facilities. In fact, on the contrary having these opportunities probably makes the U.S. take loosing the MXdN harder than any other country.

Bottom Line: Come MXdN time we Americans should feel free to be as proud and root as hard for our country as any other country. But if we are the 2010 champs we can be as prideful as ever, however we need to carry our pride graciously.



Besides isn't the better argument which series, AMA or GP is stronger?
Well said.....
End of thread!
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6/1/2010 4:46pm
DougEFresh wrote:
End of thread!
Thats the Idea
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6/1/2010 5:43pm
broman64 wrote:
this is my discussion, smart guy... get your facts straight or get out...

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I never did like that name, mostly because Big Lenny called me that, but it was funny...
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BLAHBLAH wrote:
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in...
This argument is becoming very very very did I say very ridiculous. Arguing why or why not team America has been the most dominant country in MXdN is as stupid as wondering why Jamaica doesn't have a bobsled team... Oh wait they do.

My point being, there are lots of great points in ol' Hank_Thrill's arguments just like there are in many others post's (unfortunately for every good post there is at least two moronic posts to skim through). Take for example the Olympics, certain countries don't have much snow therefore choose only to compete every 8 years when the only ice you can find at the games is in a coca-cola. When a country like Jamaica fields a bobsled team you don't expect them to win..they are happy to qualify and there is national pride in their country when they do so.

When America wins the most medals at an Olympic games or when the US wins the MXdN we understand that we as a country can afford the opportunity to become a contender for that title. Just like when France, Italy, Australia, Belgium, South Africa etc...show up to the MXdN they know that there is a legitimate chance of winning the thing. We Americans should not be less proud that we won even if we do have the best combination of economic prosperity, population density, or facilities. In fact, on the contrary having these opportunities probably makes the U.S. take loosing the MXdN harder than any other country.

Bottom Line: Come MXdN time we Americans should feel free to be as proud and root as hard for our country as any other country. But if we are the 2010 champs we can be as prideful as ever, however we need to carry our pride graciously.



Besides isn't the better argument which series, AMA or GP is stronger?
I agree...Smile
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6/1/2010 5:49pm
I'm sure most non-American fans would love to see some pride and happiness from American fans when their team wins the MXdN (which they so often do), anyone who wouldn't give them that is an asshole. I think what gets to most people is when they (some of the American fans that is) treat it as a given fact that they will win, and act as if there was no skill required to accomplish that. Rather than celebrating the fact that they had a great team, many seem to rather talk about how utterly worthless every other nations team is.

People get offended when they bring what they have (their best, active and healthy riders, and their national pride) to fight and the winner sort of shrugs off their challenge.

Well, that's my take on the whole MXdN topic at least. Cheer more for your fortunes and gloat less about others misfortunes, and the world will lighten up a bit I believe.

And good post BLAHBLAH, well said.
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6/1/2010 6:13pm
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I'm sure most non-American fans would love to see some pride and happiness from American fans when their team wins the MXdN (which they so often...
I'm sure most non-American fans would love to see some pride and happiness from American fans when their team wins the MXdN (which they so often do), anyone who wouldn't give them that is an asshole. I think what gets to most people is when they (some of the American fans that is) treat it as a given fact that they will win, and act as if there was no skill required to accomplish that. Rather than celebrating the fact that they had a great team, many seem to rather talk about how utterly worthless every other nations team is.

People get offended when they bring what they have (their best, active and healthy riders, and their national pride) to fight and the winner sort of shrugs off their challenge.

Well, that's my take on the whole MXdN topic at least. Cheer more for your fortunes and gloat less about others misfortunes, and the world will lighten up a bit I believe.

And good post BLAHBLAH, well said.
you just ruined blahblah's post... no need for further idiocy... "drop it, like its hot"
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