Are you a Deegan fan yet?

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9/20/2024 12:02pm
soggy wrote:
Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting...

Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting marketing gimmicks and constantly moving the goal posts so he never has to say he was wrong. 

I’m sure people want to see him get beat, just to see how he reacts but it’s honestly hard to see that happening as long as he’s on a 250. And he’s gonna be hard to beat on a 450. Jett is incredible but we haven’t seen a rider willing to go where Deegan is willing to in a long ass time. 

...some guys love the attention and fans they get from the drama, and being edgy.

 it's a tried and true formula - I doubt that anything you see and hear from The Deegan's is spontaneous, as Brian is a highly intelligent master marketer and knows exactly what his and Haiden's fans want.  Look at their Youtube channel's success for proof.

...some guys let their riding do the talking for them, I'll use Jett Lawrence and Eli Tomac as examples. You don't hear much from them on or off the podium about other riders. 

 

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soggy wrote:
Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting...

Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting marketing gimmicks and constantly moving the goal posts so he never has to say he was wrong. 

I’m sure people want to see him get beat, just to see how he reacts but it’s honestly hard to see that happening as long as he’s on a 250. And he’s gonna be hard to beat on a 450. Jett is incredible but we haven’t seen a rider willing to go where Deegan is willing to in a long ass time. 

Brent wrote:
...some guys love the attention and fans they get from the drama, and being edgy. it's a tried and true formula - I doubt that anything you...

...some guys love the attention and fans they get from the drama, and being edgy.

 it's a tried and true formula - I doubt that anything you see and hear from The Deegan's is spontaneous, as Brian is a highly intelligent master marketer and knows exactly what his and Haiden's fans want.  Look at their Youtube channel's success for proof.

...some guys let their riding do the talking for them, I'll use Jett Lawrence and Eli Tomac as examples. You don't hear much from them on or off the podium about other riders. 

 

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

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Camp332
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9/20/2024 12:18pm
Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

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9/20/2024 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 12:53pm
Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

His race results weren't bad either in regards to his 6 years racing AMA Pro events.  Even won  LA in 1997 (125class).   He beat plenty of factory guys and guys with a lot more support than he had.  He moved on to doing his own thing with less rules and it worked out great for him.  He's gotta be worth at least 10Mil or so. And he can still ride pretty dam well. 

 

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Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

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9/20/2024 12:44pm
Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

He said racing, not freestyle.

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9/20/2024 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 1:37pm
Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

Tumic wrote:

He said racing, not freestyle.

He was fast and could ride.

He had zero Suzuki support...just Jordan and the other Moto XXX guys helping him out.  Smoked some fast factory guys. 

Funny thing about his after race interview... One of the Team Suzukui guys stuck that hat on his head. Team Suzuki never gave him not even 1 bolt or nut for that bike.

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9/20/2024 1:04pm
Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

Tumic wrote:

He said racing, not freestyle.

FastEddy wrote:
He was fast and could ride.He had zero Suzuki support...just Jordan and the other Moto XXX guys helping him out.  Smoked some fast factory guys. Funny thing...

He was fast and could ride.

He had zero Suzuki support...just Jordan and the other Moto XXX guys helping him out.  Smoked some fast factory guys. 

Funny thing about his after race interview... One of the Team Suzukui guys stuck that hat on his head. Team Suzuki never gave him not even 1 bolt or nut for that bike.

The real issue is that Suzuki didn't make big bore kits 

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acerbis
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Maybe if he stops the gratuitous shit talk on the podium and rides for MXdN when he's needed.

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FastEddy
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JazzyJJ wrote:

The real issue is that Suzuki didn't make big bore kits 

They ran one at Washougal 1 year,  That's the only time I know of.

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9/20/2024 1:29pm
Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, and yeah he accomplished a lot in freestyle, my point is Haiden can make a killer living racing which Brian was unable to do. He doesn't need gimmicks or anything. So it's weird he chooses to use them

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Tumic
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He was fast and could ride.He had zero Suzuki support...just Jordan and the other Moto XXX guys helping him out.  Smoked some fast factory guys. Funny thing...

He was fast and could ride.

He had zero Suzuki support...just Jordan and the other Moto XXX guys helping him out.  Smoked some fast factory guys. 

Funny thing about his after race interview... One of the Team Suzukui guys stuck that hat on his head. Team Suzuki never gave him not even 1 bolt or nut for that bike.

I know his whole moto story and the 167cc bike.

He won one race in his whole pro carrer and that’s nothing compared to what he managed to do in freestyle so i still don’t get it why people got offended by a true statement that Brian never were good enough to earn great money in racing.

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9/20/2024 2:33pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 2:34pm
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I know his whole moto story and the 167cc bike.He won one race in his whole pro carrer and that’s nothing compared to what he managed...

I know his whole moto story and the 167cc bike.

He won one race in his whole pro carrer and that’s nothing compared to what he managed to do in freestyle so i still don’t get it why people got offended by a true statement that Brian never were good enough to earn great money in racing.

In regards to racing he was never in with the so-called in crowd and hung with the more rebellious party crowd.  But he could ride and was fast and talented. Had he cleaned his image up he more than likely would've got the Suzuki ride that Damon Huffman got.  Who knows what he could've done with better stuff and a better program?  We will never know.  

 And in regards to  the 167cc - I know they ran it one year at Washougal. But not in SX,even after his win that bike was impounded by the AMA and inspected and was legit. 

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9/20/2024 3:27pm

Actually, he clearly stated: "...so the team has made the decision to not let me attend the mxon to make sure I can make pre season training this year..."

Unless he can't string a sentence together and really meant: "so the team has made the decision to allow me to not attend the MXON...".

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I just have to chuckle at all the "I don't like him as a person" statements. How many of you knuckle dragging mouth breathers have ever...

I just have to chuckle at all the "I don't like him as a person" statements. How many of you knuckle dragging mouth breathers have ever even spoken to him let alone know him personally even the least little bit? 

Brent wrote:
I have spoken to Haiden and Brian a few times as they used to live down the street from me in Temecula , and we used...

I have spoken to Haiden and Brian a few times as they used to live down the street from me in Temecula , and we used to pit  next to them at the local tracks. 

In person, both of them are cordial, respectful and polite.

The persona that Haiden shows on the podium is not the kid who went to catholic school here, but I guess his dad adopted the same alter persona when he created  the Mulshia. 

I don’t care for it, but it’s their marketing tool and it makes them money.

 

I've heard the same things from others - that's he actually a nice kid.  All this shite is manufactured by Brian. 

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Brent wrote:
I have spoken to Haiden and Brian a few times as they used to live down the street from me in Temecula , and we used...

I have spoken to Haiden and Brian a few times as they used to live down the street from me in Temecula , and we used to pit  next to them at the local tracks. 

In person, both of them are cordial, respectful and polite.

The persona that Haiden shows on the podium is not the kid who went to catholic school here, but I guess his dad adopted the same alter persona when he created  the Mulshia. 

I don’t care for it, but it’s their marketing tool and it makes them money.

 

Marketing gimmicks don't ride the bike. Haiden is making money by dominating the field. Haiden knows that when he says the things that he does it...

Marketing gimmicks don't ride the bike. Haiden is making money by dominating the field. Haiden knows that when he says the things that he does it triggers people, and I find it entertaining. I also think he has mastered the fine art of carrying a chip on his shoulder. It's almost as if he has been schooled by the master himself, Bob Hurricane Hannah.

soggy wrote:
Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting...

Nobody from what I can tell has anything bad to say about Deegan and his riding. But those of us that are wise to stupid baiting marketing gimmicks and constantly moving the goal posts so he never has to say he was wrong. 

I’m sure people want to see him get beat, just to see how he reacts but it’s honestly hard to see that happening as long as he’s on a 250. And he’s gonna be hard to beat on a 450. Jett is incredible but we haven’t seen a rider willing to go where Deegan is willing to in a long ass time. 

We shall see.  The point is can he go where he needs to go to beat Jett without crashing? Jett has seldom if ever had to push beyond his comfort zone so it seems he has more speed ready to unplug if needed. 
I think the combination of Haiden's great riding lately and Jett's riding while injured lately have made people forget how phenomenal Jett is.  I use phenomenal in it's real sense, not just as hypebole. 

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Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

Camp332 wrote:

C'mon man. Don't disrespect Brian's ability to ride a dirtbike. How many freestyle medals does he have? You left that part out.

Yeah, but who gives two solitary fucks about FMX?  FMX is bullshit, SX and MX are true motorsports - that is, they involve racing, not circus tricks. 

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9/20/2024 3:48pm
Herr Lich wrote:
Yeah, but who gives two solitary fucks about FMX?  FMX is bullshit, SX and MX are true motorsports - that is, they involve racing, not circus...

Yeah, but who gives two solitary fucks about FMX?  FMX is bullshit, SX and MX are true motorsports - that is, they involve racing, not circus tricks. 

I've always preferred racing to freestyle. 

However,FMX got huge here and a lot of people love it.  

That's how Pastrana and Deegan made their millions.  

The circus stuff was shockingly impressive and easy to market to the mainstream.  XGames ect...

XGames back in the day with TP doing that double backflip got more viewers than all the supercross races combined that year.

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I would love to be but the amount of Swifting for him drives me bananas 

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Herr Lich wrote:
We shall see.  The point is can he go where he needs to go to beat Jett without crashing? Jett has seldom if ever had to...

We shall see.  The point is can he go where he needs to go to beat Jett without crashing? Jett has seldom if ever had to push beyond his comfort zone so it seems he has more speed ready to unplug if needed. 
I think the combination of Haiden's great riding lately and Jett's riding while injured lately have made people forget how phenomenal Jett is.  I use phenomenal in it's real sense, not just as hypebole. 

It’s going to be awesome that’s for sure. And I agree I don’t think we’ve seen Jett really really hanging it out on the 450 yet but we might today. 

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9/21/2024 8:53am

Deegan the racer is the most exciting guy to watch in either class right now, hands down. 

His interviews are a product of someone with a third grade education raised on instagram clips and regurgitating podcast info, or as the kids would say..he is cringe AF. 

 

The entire sport is headed down a dark path of non verbal, clones making their way to the professional ranks. I would enjoy these last few years while we have them before we have a paddock of these droids. 

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Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that...

Brian wasn't good enough to make a living racing, he had to create a gimmicky t shirt company to pay the bills. Haiden doesn't have that problem, he can let his riding do the talking if he wants to. Brian is in his ear though

Yeah cause freestyle is sooooooooo easy and safe lol.

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Deegan the racer is the most exciting guy to watch in either class right now, hands down. His interviews are a product of someone with a third...

Deegan the racer is the most exciting guy to watch in either class right now, hands down. 

His interviews are a product of someone with a third grade education raised on instagram clips and regurgitating podcast info, or as the kids would say..he is cringe AF. 

 

The entire sport is headed down a dark path of non verbal, clones making their way to the professional ranks. I would enjoy these last few years while we have them before we have a paddock of these droids. 

Actually the upcoming generation is going to be the most media savvy generation we’ve ever seen. 

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