Carpal/Cubital Release Surgery

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Go to this guy (actually found his place from an old Vital thread).  Got my right hand done two years ago, procedure was all of 3-4...

Go to this guy (actually found his place from an old Vital thread).  Got my right hand done two years ago, procedure was all of 3-4 minutes.  I was racing two weeks later.

https://www.carpaltunnelexpress.com

That was probably my thread! lol. 
Yep highly recommended!!

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swatdoc wrote:
A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like...

A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like the bars would fly outa my hands at any time. Also had terrible numbness in both hands while reading or just having my elbows bent for a couple of minutes. 
I flew to Florida and went to carpletunnelexpress   The Dr did surgery on both wrists and elbows. Incredible improvement. Not 100%, because I waited to long, but an absolute success. 
Surgery was super fast, and I drove myself back to the airport 30 minutes after the procedure. 
Can’t recommend them strongly enough 

How does he handle the cubital release? My doctor did the big incision and moved the nerve to the inner part of the elbow.

On the scary part, I've had family members tell me, "I've had carpal tunnel for decades, it's not a big deal." My response is, imagine you're riding a 60hp 250lbs motorcycle through the trees at 20-40mph, in a race, and the parts of you that hang on and control the 60hp go numb...

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9/20/2024 2:52pm
swatdoc wrote:
A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like...

A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like the bars would fly outa my hands at any time. Also had terrible numbness in both hands while reading or just having my elbows bent for a couple of minutes. 
I flew to Florida and went to carpletunnelexpress   The Dr did surgery on both wrists and elbows. Incredible improvement. Not 100%, because I waited to long, but an absolute success. 
Surgery was super fast, and I drove myself back to the airport 30 minutes after the procedure. 
Can’t recommend them strongly enough 

Timo wrote:
How does he handle the cubital release? My doctor did the big incision and moved the nerve to the inner part of the elbow.On the scary...

How does he handle the cubital release? My doctor did the big incision and moved the nerve to the inner part of the elbow.

On the scary part, I've had family members tell me, "I've had carpal tunnel for decades, it's not a big deal." My response is, imagine you're riding a 60hp 250lbs motorcycle through the trees at 20-40mph, in a race, and the parts of you that hang on and control the 60hp go numb...

I'm sorry but anyone saying it's no big deal doesn't have a severe case of CTS. Like Swatdoc said, 2 laps and I couldn't even hold on to the bike anymore. But that was just on the bike. I'd wake up in the middle of the night almost in agony and my wife would have to message my hands out for me. Just my hand on the steering wheel, it would go numb

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9/20/2024 11:13pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 11:15pm
swatdoc wrote:
A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like...

A few years ago, after two laps on a Mx track, I’d lose about 75-80% of the grip strength in both hands. VERY scary! Felt like the bars would fly outa my hands at any time. Also had terrible numbness in both hands while reading or just having my elbows bent for a couple of minutes. 
I flew to Florida and went to carpletunnelexpress   The Dr did surgery on both wrists and elbows. Incredible improvement. Not 100%, because I waited to long, but an absolute success. 
Surgery was super fast, and I drove myself back to the airport 30 minutes after the procedure. 
Can’t recommend them strongly enough 

Timo wrote:
How does he handle the cubital release? My doctor did the big incision and moved the nerve to the inner part of the elbow.On the scary...

How does he handle the cubital release? My doctor did the big incision and moved the nerve to the inner part of the elbow.

On the scary part, I've had family members tell me, "I've had carpal tunnel for decades, it's not a big deal." My response is, imagine you're riding a 60hp 250lbs motorcycle through the trees at 20-40mph, in a race, and the parts of you that hang on and control the 60hp go numb...

I'm sorry but anyone saying it's no big deal doesn't have a severe case of CTS. Like Swatdoc said, 2 laps and I couldn't even hold...

I'm sorry but anyone saying it's no big deal doesn't have a severe case of CTS. Like Swatdoc said, 2 laps and I couldn't even hold on to the bike anymore. But that was just on the bike. I'd wake up in the middle of the night almost in agony and my wife would have to message my hands out for me. Just my hand on the steering wheel, it would go numb

Yes, the average Drongo, has no idea - after all, "you just turn the throttle, that's all".

My Carpal Tunnel got to the stage of Chris_Bueller's - to the point I could barely drive a bloody car. Cycling, to keep my Lardiness at bay, became almost impossible - couldn't hold on, use brakes or gears, even in my midnight 'spinning around the neighbourhood for 20 /30 miles' rides. BMX and DH, became very bloody risky.

So, had both wrists done around 3 years ago, then, a year and a bit later, had 6 Trigger Fingers done.

Unfortunately, the Carpal Tunnel problems are now coming back with a vengeance, and I'll have to have the procedure(s) done again.

I've  done an Enormous amount of ''Push Againsts'' for many, many years now - what you do when you can't get down and back up from actual Push Ups. I made a set of Handlebars on a mount that keys onto my workbench / kitchen edges, then place my legs as far back as possible, and, in 100 lots, generally do 1000 'PA's' a day - to keep my upper body strong for crutching around, and have often thought the pressure on my Hands / Wrists from that ( and Crutch use) may be the cause of my CT and TF. But, my Hand specialist says No. The Bars with big squishy Oury grips (my Favourites, for decades now), have passed his opinion on that. 

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9/21/2024 5:33am
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Yes, the average Drongo, has no idea - after all, "you just turn the throttle, that's all".My Carpal Tunnel got to the stage of Chris_Bueller's...

Yes, the average Drongo, has no idea - after all, "you just turn the throttle, that's all".

My Carpal Tunnel got to the stage of Chris_Bueller's - to the point I could barely drive a bloody car. Cycling, to keep my Lardiness at bay, became almost impossible - couldn't hold on, use brakes or gears, even in my midnight 'spinning around the neighbourhood for 20 /30 miles' rides. BMX and DH, became very bloody risky.

So, had both wrists done around 3 years ago, then, a year and a bit later, had 6 Trigger Fingers done.

Unfortunately, the Carpal Tunnel problems are now coming back with a vengeance, and I'll have to have the procedure(s) done again.

I've  done an Enormous amount of ''Push Againsts'' for many, many years now - what you do when you can't get down and back up from actual Push Ups. I made a set of Handlebars on a mount that keys onto my workbench / kitchen edges, then place my legs as far back as possible, and, in 100 lots, generally do 1000 'PA's' a day - to keep my upper body strong for crutching around, and have often thought the pressure on my Hands / Wrists from that ( and Crutch use) may be the cause of my CT and TF. But, my Hand specialist says No. The Bars with big squishy Oury grips (my Favourites, for decades now), have passed his opinion on that. 

What type of procedure did you have the first time, needle and thread, Endoscopic, or traditional?

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9/21/2024 6:30am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2024 6:36am
Timo wrote:

What type of procedure did you have the first time, needle and thread, Endoscopic, or traditional?

Not knowing what 'traditional' is, all I can tell you is I ended up with 2  approx 2" scars at the base of my palm, into my wrist. Thread stitches for wound closure. Thankfully, Not bloody Staples. I hate them - my recent Knee Replacement had about Fifty / Sixty of those bloody things.

Each time I've had the hand procedures in the last few years, I've had it done under our Medicare, at the Sydney Hand Hospital. It's a Fantastic set up, with great Doctors and Nurses. I get put on a trolley, slightly sedated, and go into a Big room with what appears to be multiple Hand Ops going on. Then go to sleep.

I wake up ( but can only 'feel' the tugging / manipulations they are doing - there's No pain at all ) part way through the procedures, and, being a Mad Old Goof Ball, end up talking to the Doctors and Nurses, and try my utmost to make them laugh their arses off. I always succeed with that! I become, I'm told, quite a Comedian when under the influence of whatever they pump into me. Though, the head Theatre Nurse, and / or  the main 'Professor', goes very crook at me.... 

 

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Not knowing what 'traditional' is, all I can tell you is I ended up with 2  approx 2" scars at the base of my palm, into...

Not knowing what 'traditional' is, all I can tell you is I ended up with 2  approx 2" scars at the base of my palm, into my wrist. Thread stitches for wound closure. Thankfully, Not bloody Staples. I hate them - my recent Knee Replacement had about Fifty / Sixty of those bloody things.

Each time I've had the hand procedures in the last few years, I've had it done under our Medicare, at the Sydney Hand Hospital. It's a Fantastic set up, with great Doctors and Nurses. I get put on a trolley, slightly sedated, and go into a Big room with what appears to be multiple Hand Ops going on. Then go to sleep.

I wake up ( but can only 'feel' the tugging / manipulations they are doing - there's No pain at all ) part way through the procedures, and, being a Mad Old Goof Ball, end up talking to the Doctors and Nurses, and try my utmost to make them laugh their arses off. I always succeed with that! I become, I'm told, quite a Comedian when under the influence of whatever they pump into me. Though, the head Theatre Nurse, and / or  the main 'Professor', goes very crook at me.... 

 

That'd be the traditional surgery, typically it's the most successful in terms of not needing done a second time. The other 2 have less scarring and faster recovery but run a higher risk of not fully severing the transverse carpal ligament and requiring another procedure. 

I had the traditional surgery as well, but my scars are only about an inch long. This is my right hand as of yesterday, 2.5 weeks out from surgery.1000004939 0

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9/21/2024 6:58am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2024 7:19am
Timo wrote:
That'd be the traditional surgery, typically it's the most successful in terms of not needing done a second time. The other 2 have less scarring and...

That'd be the traditional surgery, typically it's the most successful in terms of not needing done a second time. The other 2 have less scarring and faster recovery but run a higher risk of not fully severing the transverse carpal ligament and requiring another procedure. 

I had the traditional surgery as well, but my scars are only about an inch long. This is my right hand as of yesterday, 2.5 weeks out from surgery.1000004939 0

Interesting - the other types of procedure. 'Needle and thread' you mentioned : I'll have to check that, as I took it as just the closure method.

My Doctor said they'd be doing "something different" for the next Ops. The Doc, while doing the Ops, did say "things are a mess in there". 

But, I hope things won't get much worse for a while, as I've a few other 'repairs' needed to be done. Starting with removing the Utterly Shite Knee Joint that was put in back in late June. I seriously want to maim  the F**king Bastard Doctor that Did Not Do As He Promised.

You can barely see the CT scars on my palm / wrist now, but there's another , sort of Keloid  scar on my RH wrist that dates back from a Thumb Reco, about 20 years ago that I had, that draws attention. Like so many of us here, I've / We've got a whole bunch of Scars from our pursuit of 'Fun'. 

 

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4 weeks out from my right arm and 2 since my left, everything is going well. I rode my wife's ttr225 last Sunday chasing my son around and it wasn't bad at all. The tender spot on the base of my palm doesn't touch the grip really so I can ride a motorcycle fairly slow pretty easily. I then got in my explorer and sat my arm on the window and was reminded my left elbow/hand is still pretty tender 😅. I've got a 100 mile road ride and a 40 miles desert ride on the schedule for the weekend of October 11th, 20th reunion, so we'll see how it goes.

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Rode my cbr600f around today, normally I could get 15 minutes on it before my right hand would start going numb. I got 45 minutes in today and no numbness! My left hand is only 3 weeks out and it had some weird sensations a couple times but overall it's a night and day difference! 

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