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“You have to pick between Fluffer and Hater” 🤣
Priceless! Because, for far too many fanboys…as shown in this thread…it’s true.
Really??
This has been a thing forever.
A factory team buys their 1st guy with a goal to win. Then their second guy to get the best possible result for the money.
Let’s say they have $1.5m to spend on riders..
Their chosen ‘winner’ costs $1m… do you think they’re finding an equally talented rider for 500k??
Think Kenny & Cole.
Think Eli & Joey.
Think Chase & Aaron.
Think RV & Weimer..
Notice the pattern??
Otherwise 1 team would’ve bought RV2 & RD5 and bossed it all..
More than 2 riders?? Maybe… each rider has a value and a pecking order.
Maybe he still live in the 80’s HRC Honda days
Not even if proving you’re the fastest gnarliest MX2 rider in the world improves your stock??
He may not earn anything on the day, but if the whole world can see you’re the best, the manufacturers are watching..
of course… it could go the other way..🤷♀️
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I see what you mean, but I have never seen any pro motocross racers, particularly factory racers, called “B” riders, even if they were considered second tier to the star. Can you show any examples of this in print or online?
I almost wish that were possible
Nothing!
I completely understand why he wants to be ready for 2025SX
No, I cannot show any examples in print or online. But that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
We all know it. But most of all the riders all know it when they see their salaries.
You think JCoop is earning the same as Eli & Webb??
Please accept my apology. I was being pedantic wrt the “A” and “B” nomenclature. Of course there are different levels of racers.
And I realize my original point, that a pro athlete only has two responsibilities (to the contract holders and to themselves), is also incorrect; there are multiple stakeholders involved that, taken together, create the marketplace that supports the livelihood of these athletes. Paying fans are a significant portion of this.
Thanks to everyone who chimed in and helped me see this differently.
I'm puzzled. There is an urgency to get his wrist fixed, instead of the des Nations race, yet all is good for the next 3 weekends for the SMX playoffs. Go Chance.
Maybe not forever...I'm struggling to think who is the "B" rider here. Unless "B" stands for "badass"
SMX pays well, MXoN does not.
A whole lot of things start to make sense if you factor in the dollars. And I’m not criticizing HD at all for that, this is his job/career, I totally understand. I’d like it if he went to the MXoN, but I get what he’s doing.
This is just false
I agree
It’s the narrative dreamed up to support a rider who doesn’t care.
Every SX/MX fan I know cares a lot. The huge crowd at Red Bud certainly cared…
Soy Bois and Incels…
Without fans there is no money for any "pro" sports. In my opinion, you can't waive the flag around all year long to rile up the fans, become your country's national champion, and then refuse to represent that flag on the the biggest international motocross stage of the year. I for one do not care to see our national pride manipulated and shit on this way.
So electing to get a surgery to have pins removed is shitting on our national pride?
That’s a strange sense of patriotism you have there.
LoL...key part of your post is "ELECTING to get a surgery".
Merely an excuse to not go yet AGAIN this year.
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As opposed to? If he doesn’t get it done sooner rather than later, it could pose the risk of further injuring his wrist.
It’s nice to see all you with Ph.D’s in downvoting interpret and diagnose his injury and the best course of action for its proper healing and recovery, but when you break it down, all you’re doing assuming and speculating with no facts to support your claims.
Nothing, as we owe him nothing, he could go away tomorrow and someone else will fill the shoes and maybe better!
Racers race. You can bet your ass that Jeff Stanton would be there, wrist surgery needed, or not.
Does he owe the fans anything? Maybe not. But it’s nice to have those fans on your side and in your corner.
If he doesn’t want to go, then that’s his prerogative, but if you’re going to run the captain America gimmick, and talk about how bad you want to beat everyone and show that you’re the best, then you don’t step up when the opportunity presents itself, you have to expect some criticism.
I’m sure next year he’ll be desperate to race at Ironman and show he’s the best 250 rider in the world, but even if he does do that, the fact will remain that all the guys he’s racing against were prepared to come and take him on in his back yard, and he wasn’t prepared to come to theirs
Stanton turned it down when it was held in Australia in 1992.
What exactly is your issue with Deegan having a surgey in time to prepare for the 2025 season?
Go listen to his interview with dark. He said it doesn't even need to be done he could leave them in forever. So according to him you're doing exactly what you claim others are.
Listen to track talkers. Hauden basically says what me aND some others have been saying: you have no clue what you're talking about.
He’s having minor surgery and will have 3 months after MXoN until SX starts, 4 months until East coast starts. If it absolutely had to be done at that time, he wouldn’t have been in contention at any point. There wouldn’t have been any waiting to see who is in or out.
By the way, the surgery he’s having done is on an injury he was telling everyone he didn’t have, whilst at the same time saying ‘I wish the fans knew what we go through’.
If he really wanted to be there, he would be.
"Its getting to the point where people dont like to see others suceed"
What a load of rubbish!
Why isn't Chase getting this flack??
Because Chase doesnt give it the Captain America trash talk about beating everyone & anyone and then avoiding it when the opportunity arises.
He said what I posted above with darkside. So his stories changed again just like the original wrist incident? Im shocked.
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