Glen Helen reaching out to Gypsytales for interview - UPDATE !!

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Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. ...

Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. 
 

They also talked about how MX sports is responsible for security, porta johns, etc.  I went to the muddy creek National one year. That was the biggest cluster fuck of an event I have ever been to. People parking all in other peoples yards walking for miles just to get in the track. You could hang up finding a porta John anywhere that wasn’t over flowing with shit. 
 

I really just don’t understand you guys want to give DC a big hawk-tu every chance you get.  
 

Do I think he’s the worst guy in the sport? No, but he is not the ole ga lee shucks saint he is made out to be either. 

We heard a very different interview.  You clearly spin things to fit a predetermined agenda you have.   1. Alex said it’s up to the promoters...

We heard a very different interview.  You clearly spin things to fit a predetermined agenda you have.

 

1. Alex said it’s up to the promoters to Make money. He said multiple times they do very well and that includes making it a complete weekend not just the Saturday race. He never once said or implied just the Saturday race was not profitable. 
 

2. He did not say Mx sports provides bathroom. Opposite actually. He said they provide guidance on number of bathroom, security, exc. the tracks should get.

He actually said the promoters can make really good money if they do it right. 
 

You must have been half ass listening to the interview. 

The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra...

The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra nationals and bankrupt them. No owner on the circuit could afford to have a second one. 

Sippin the Kooksey Koolaid I see….tinfoil looks good on you…

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6/25/2024 7:47pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2024 7:50pm
We heard a very different interview.  You clearly spin things to fit a predetermined agenda you have.   1. Alex said it’s up to the promoters...

We heard a very different interview.  You clearly spin things to fit a predetermined agenda you have.

 

1. Alex said it’s up to the promoters to Make money. He said multiple times they do very well and that includes making it a complete weekend not just the Saturday race. He never once said or implied just the Saturday race was not profitable. 
 

2. He did not say Mx sports provides bathroom. Opposite actually. He said they provide guidance on number of bathroom, security, exc. the tracks should get.

He actually said the promoters can make really good money if they do it right. 
 

You must have been half ass listening to the interview. 

The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra...

The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra nationals and bankrupt them. No owner on the circuit could afford to have a second one. 

DonM wrote:

Sippin the Kooksey Koolaid I see….tinfoil looks good on you…

I thought it was obviously sarcastic and the idea that DC could punish a track by making them have another national while simultaneously screwing over GH by not letting them have a National amused me. I apologize 

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Yup!!!! Agree 100% . Case closed in my opinion. But I'm sure this will run another 3 pages as the Dazed and Confused still try to...

Yup!!!! Agree 100% . Case closed in my opinion. But I'm sure this will run another 3 pages as the Dazed and Confused still try to spin it.. Heh

Probably right.....and this also should give kudos to the media (in this case Pulp) for having someone on that has zero to do with either side...

Probably right.....and this also should give kudos to the media (in this case Pulp) for having someone on that has zero to do with either side and "asking the tough questions".  

joshd wrote:
Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. ...

Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. 
 

They also talked about how MX sports is responsible for security, porta johns, etc.  I went to the muddy creek National one year. That was the biggest cluster fuck of an event I have ever been to. People parking all in other peoples yards walking for miles just to get in the track. You could hang up finding a porta John anywhere that wasn’t over flowing with shit. 
 

I really just don’t understand you guys want to give DC a big hawk-tu every chance you get.  
 

Do I think he’s the worst guy in the sport? No, but he is not the ole ga lee shucks saint he is made out to be either. 

“Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. ”

Are you suggesting every national should be able to make enough money from one event to pay their overheads and expenses for 12 months?

Do you think the series would be sustainable if that was the case?

Have you ever noticed how every notable permanent racetrack around the world has multiple events? COTA for example, do you think that place could exist if they just hosted one F1 race, or 1 MotoGP race a year?

What you are saying is in no way evidence of some big greed conspiracy from Davey.

MX Sports is a business too, it’s simple they all need to agree to terms to make a mutually beneficial relationship. This is business 101. None of this is charity.

All the other tracks are free to walk away also if they can’t justify holding a national. If MXSports is such an evil money printing, track killing, puppet master corporation as Cooksey (who time and time again makes it clear he has a serious hatred for Davey, Pulp and co)  suggests. Why do the other tracks keep re-signing?

Cooksey is a fking skin flute. 

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The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra...

The problem is Alex and the other national promoters are in on it, they know if they bad mouth DC he will make them have extra nationals and bankrupt them. No owner on the circuit could afford to have a second one. 

DonM wrote:

Sippin the Kooksey Koolaid I see….tinfoil looks good on you…

I thought it was obviously sarcastic and the idea that DC could punish a track by making them have another national while simultaneously screwing over GH...

I thought it was obviously sarcastic and the idea that DC could punish a track by making them have another national while simultaneously screwing over GH by not letting them have a National amused me. I apologize 

Ahh ok sorry missed the sarcasm…there are many on here that actually believe that to be the truth…

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DonM wrote:

Sippin the Kooksey Koolaid I see….tinfoil looks good on you…

I thought it was obviously sarcastic and the idea that DC could punish a track by making them have another national while simultaneously screwing over GH...

I thought it was obviously sarcastic and the idea that DC could punish a track by making them have another national while simultaneously screwing over GH by not letting them have a National amused me. I apologize 

DonM wrote:

Ahh ok sorry missed the sarcasm…there are many on here that actually believe that to be the truth…

I also wasn't sure, but thanks for the smiles

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6/25/2024 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2024 9:11pm

I think it's funny that some of you see DC as some evil robber baron who lights cigars with $100 bills, while Bud Feldkamp - who literally has "fuck you" money - is apparently some kind of innocent victim of DC's greed. 

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6/25/2024 9:24pm

just think, the local bikers club/flag crew used to party hard and blow up the shitters with dynamite  at red bud every year nite before the race, lmao. just think if they woulda said "i ain't doing this pro national thing any more. Tongue complainin about muddy creek having shit over flowin in porta potties??? y ou ever seen a porta potty go 100 feet in the air? lmao

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Bud is now within 7 votes of Unicorn Farts! 

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Bud is now within 7 votes of Unicorn Farts! 

Bud is now within 7 votes of Unicorn Farts! 

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at this rate he may overtake UF by this weekend!

6/26/2024 4:37am

9 pages and no mention of the devil behind the curtain?

with the Cooperland ordeal, I believe it was the big sis that told Coop “you will never have a national” because he wasn’t playing the Coombs game properly.

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MOTOCAM25 wrote:
9 pages and no mention of the devil behind the curtain? with the Cooperland ordeal, I believe it was the big sis that told Coop “you...

9 pages and no mention of the devil behind the curtain?

with the Cooperland ordeal, I believe it was the big sis that told Coop “you will never have a national” because he wasn’t playing the Coombs game properly.

Is there any info out there about her? 

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6/26/2024 8:53am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2024 8:57am
MOTOCAM25 wrote:
9 pages and no mention of the devil behind the curtain? with the Cooperland ordeal, I believe it was the big sis that told Coop “you...

9 pages and no mention of the devil behind the curtain?

with the Cooperland ordeal, I believe it was the big sis that told Coop “you will never have a national” because he wasn’t playing the Coombs game properly.

enketchum wrote:

Is there any info out there about her? 

Of course there is just Google her name, Carrie Coombs Russell. She is the CEO and very much out there in public, not hiding behind a curtain.

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6/26/2024 9:22am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2024 9:23am

The longest continuously running AMA National MX race…still run by the same club…since the 60s. 

https://hangtownmx.com/

I know it hasn’t been easy and some of the changes over the years have presented some serious challenges…yet…

The Race goes on. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

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6/26/2024 11:06am
joshd wrote:
Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. ...

Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. 
 

They also talked about how MX sports is responsible for security, porta johns, etc.  I went to the muddy creek National one year. That was the biggest cluster fuck of an event I have ever been to. People parking all in other peoples yards walking for miles just to get in the track. You could hang up finding a porta John anywhere that wasn’t over flowing with shit. 
 

I really just don’t understand you guys want to give DC a big hawk-tu every chance you get.  
 

Do I think he’s the worst guy in the sport? No, but he is not the ole ga lee shucks saint he is made out to be either. 

Did we listen to the same interview?

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It looks like it happened........ 

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6/28/2024 9:16pm Edited Date/Time 6/28/2024 9:17pm
Yup!!!! Agree 100% . Case closed in my opinion. But I'm sure this will run another 3 pages as the Dazed and Confused still try to...

Yup!!!! Agree 100% . Case closed in my opinion. But I'm sure this will run another 3 pages as the Dazed and Confused still try to spin it.. Heh

Probably right.....and this also should give kudos to the media (in this case Pulp) for having someone on that has zero to do with either side...

Probably right.....and this also should give kudos to the media (in this case Pulp) for having someone on that has zero to do with either side and "asking the tough questions".  

joshd wrote:
Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. ...

Y’all can’t be serious? Alex basically said if it wasn’t for all the am days the track would not be profitable on the national day alone. 
 

They also talked about how MX sports is responsible for security, porta johns, etc.  I went to the muddy creek National one year. That was the biggest cluster fuck of an event I have ever been to. People parking all in other peoples yards walking for miles just to get in the track. You could hang up finding a porta John anywhere that wasn’t over flowing with shit. 
 

I really just don’t understand you guys want to give DC a big hawk-tu every chance you get.  
 

Do I think he’s the worst guy in the sport? No, but he is not the ole ga lee shucks saint he is made out to be either. 

^^this

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Buds side of the story is out and live on gypsy. 

https://youtu.be/7rpyQV9vhVI?feature=shared

LungButter wrote:

Alright, alright, alright.... I bet we can turn this sucker into a 30 pager after a few folks get to have a listen.

Well ill be honest i didn't learn much from this. Going to have to listen to the full podcast.

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Farmer J wrote:

Buds side of the story is out and live on gypsy. 

https://youtu.be/7rpyQV9vhVI?feature=shared

LungButter wrote:

Alright, alright, alright.... I bet we can turn this sucker into a 30 pager after a few folks get to have a listen.

I couldn' hit the play button fast enough. Popcorn time. 

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Listening now ..... 

has the full show dropped? 

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Lori was in studio! I haven't seen her in years. cool 

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And? You never responded to my last comment when you randomly called me out for doing something I didn’t do.

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7/17/2024 1:32pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2024 1:51pm
Farmer J wrote:

Buds side of the story is out and live on gypsy. 

https://youtu.be/7rpyQV9vhVI?feature=shared

Have to watch when I get home but in my opinion Bud screwed up already. He should have worn a RacerX shirt.  🤣

 

The only side I'm picking is the motocross fans side. I want a GH National because what it is. Is Bud the owner of GH or does he lease the property and have promotional rights? With Feld and NBC involved I'd love to see them put some muscle on both parties and buy the damn place if they have to. GH should be the cornerstone of the outdoor series. I don't care which party wins; I just want a world class SoCal National. 

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And? You never responded to my last comment when you randomly called me out for doing something I didn’t do.

?? I called you out for deleting a thread because DC demanded you do so. You admitted to deleting the thread. Then people chuckled at the whole narrative that DC does NOT control the narrative in our sport while you are deleting threads upon his request and admitting it. 

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Have to watch when I get home but in my opinion Bud screwed up already. He should have worn a RacerX shirt.  🤣 The only side I'm...

Have to watch when I get home but in my opinion Bud screwed up already. He should have worn a RacerX shirt.  🤣

 

The only side I'm picking is the motocross fans side. I want a GH National because what it is. Is Bud the owner of GH or does he lease the property and have promotional rights? With Feld and NBC involved I'd love to see them put some muscle on both parties and buy the damn place if they have to. GH should be the cornerstone of the outdoor series. I don't care which party wins; I just want a world class SoCal National. 

why would feld or NBC  get involved, it has nothing in it for them,  i doubt the tv figures change between glen helen and and pala, 

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Farmer J wrote:

Well ill be honest i didn't learn much from this. Going to have to listen to the full podcast.

Yeah, that was kinda 18 minutes of a nothing burger.

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ML512 wrote:

And? You never responded to my last comment when you randomly called me out for doing something I didn’t do.

?? I called you out for deleting a thread because DC demanded you do so. You admitted to deleting the thread. Then people chuckled at the...

?? I called you out for deleting a thread because DC demanded you do so. You admitted to deleting the thread. Then people chuckled at the whole narrative that DC does NOT control the narrative in our sport while you are deleting threads upon his request and admitting it. 

Okay, serious question, are you stupid?

This is what you posted "speaking of Gypsy, he still has the video of DV/Glen Helen up...so explain again why we're not allowed to post that video and discuss the topic??"

I never clipped any video, the only topic that was clipped, and I've told you this in another topic is a topic that I STARTED. It's a topic I started that had the quote from Davey Coombs from Racerhead. The topic was around for about five mins before Davey called me and said "hey, that story wasn't supposed to even go out in Racerhead, it's something I'm working on for a different feature that may or may not see the light of day. We pulled it out of Racerhead."

So I deleted my own topic with about four responses in it.

I asked you what in the hell you were talking about when you posted this and this was your response.

"after the video was posted, you ultimately deleted it and said that DC didn't want it released yet. Surely you remember as we then discussed how DC controls the media's narrative."

THERE WAS NO VIDEO DELETED. I deleted my own topic that had a quote from a paragraph. The entire topic of this pointing of fingers over who's right or wrong has existed, videos that were posted are still in it.

I am convinced you can't even keep facts straight because you're so blinded by your hatred of moto media and your need to bitch at me every change you can.

If you haven't noticed, you literally get downvoted to a noticeably high amount every time you come after me now, because you've quit making sense at this point. You come across as having a mindless vendetta with no real end goal other than bitching to bitch. If you had some sort of real facts or point to back up your insane posting, you'd probably get somewhere or at least have the respect of other members enough to back you.

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