Anyone tried the ktm connectivity unit on 23 or newer?

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I’ve got one for sale if anyone wants one! Message me it’s off a 2021 ktm F/E

2023 and up bikes only work with the new version of the CUO. I think a 2023 Gasgas will still work with the older CUO.

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Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all...

Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all sliders set to 3 is stock like the bike is off the showroom floor. The TC slider should only have affect the engine when TC is on.

 

If you had to get an update to make the CUO work on your bike then you also got the latest mapping from KTM. Since KTM first released the new 250f in 2022 there have been some calibration updates, and the engine response is more aggressive than it was when first launched. Some of the 2024 250 shootouts mention this.

So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on the switch? So you then only really have one map?

Others have said your made map will go to the white map and the green will stay as standard ktm green map.

Can anyone confirm 100% which way it works?

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wrc777 wrote:
Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all...

Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all sliders set to 3 is stock like the bike is off the showroom floor. The TC slider should only have affect the engine when TC is on.

 

If you had to get an update to make the CUO work on your bike then you also got the latest mapping from KTM. Since KTM first released the new 250f in 2022 there have been some calibration updates, and the engine response is more aggressive than it was when first launched. Some of the 2024 250 shootouts mention this.

Smith246 wrote:
So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on...

So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on the switch? So you then only really have one map?

Others have said your made map will go to the white map and the green will stay as standard ktm green map.

Can anyone confirm 100% which way it works?

You get white and green versions of the new map. The difference is similar to the difference between white and green map with no CUO.

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wrc777 wrote:
Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all...

Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all sliders set to 3 is stock like the bike is off the showroom floor. The TC slider should only have affect the engine when TC is on.

 

If you had to get an update to make the CUO work on your bike then you also got the latest mapping from KTM. Since KTM first released the new 250f in 2022 there have been some calibration updates, and the engine response is more aggressive than it was when first launched. Some of the 2024 250 shootouts mention this.

Smith246 wrote:
So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on...

So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on the switch? So you then only really have one map?

Others have said your made map will go to the white map and the green will stay as standard ktm green map.

Can anyone confirm 100% which way it works?

wrc777 wrote:

You get white and green versions of the new map. The difference is similar to the difference between white and green map with no CUO.

Thanks 👍

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wrc777 are you positive you get white and green versions of what cuo is set to? My dealer swears cuo settings only go to white map but that really makes no sense to me.

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wrc777 wrote:
Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all...

Whatever map you pick and whatever you do with the sliders is supposed to apply to white and green. I assume the "standard" setting with all sliders set to 3 is stock like the bike is off the showroom floor. The TC slider should only have affect the engine when TC is on.

 

If you had to get an update to make the CUO work on your bike then you also got the latest mapping from KTM. Since KTM first released the new 250f in 2022 there have been some calibration updates, and the engine response is more aggressive than it was when first launched. Some of the 2024 250 shootouts mention this.

Smith246 wrote:
So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on...

So you are saying that if you make a map and send it to the bike it goes to both the white and green map on the switch? So you then only really have one map?

Others have said your made map will go to the white map and the green will stay as standard ktm green map.

Can anyone confirm 100% which way it works?

You can only change map 1 (white)

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wrc777 are you positive you get white and green versions of what cuo is set to? My dealer swears cuo settings only go to white map...

wrc777 are you positive you get white and green versions of what cuo is set to? My dealer swears cuo settings only go to white map but that really makes no sense to me.

That is what all the reviews have said and it is what it feels like riding it. I will see if I can check with the soft map this weekend. It will be pretty obvious on that one. 

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You can only change map 1 (white)

Have you had this confirmed by ktm? This is what I have been told by most but no one seems to know 100% 

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I played around with the cuo today. Green map with aggressive vs soft map definitely feel different. 
 

I also found out that I logged 5 laps in a hare scramble last Sunday and I was able to download that and build a track in the app and analyze the 5 laps from my race. It was almost 2 hours of data which was the whole race. It appears to work fine for a race in the woods with good tree cover. 

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So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response. 

"Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with map2 (green button) you can make it even more aggressive."

 

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So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response.  "Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with...

So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response. 

"Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with map2 (green button) you can make it even more aggressive."

 

I would agree the green map is a more aggressive version of whatever is loaded into the white.

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So just to confirm what I have read so far. A '23 requires an ECU reflash at the dealer ($$) in order for the new CUO to connect? 

How does the CUO compare with a Vortex? If I have a Vortex off a '23 MC350F am I better off to have it remapped or buy the CUO (if I didn't care about the GPS)? My understanding is that a Vortex from a '22 or older model KTM is NOT compatible with the '23+ models to work with the handlebar map switch and TC?

I would like the most low-end torque I can get with the ability to scale back the engine braking. How much torque does a Vortex give you over the CUO adjustment? And how much can you scale back the engine braking with the CUO versus what a Vortex can do? Reason I ask, is that if the gain with a Vortex is minimal in comparison, and I would need to buy a new Vortex to work properly with the '23+ models, then the CUO sounds like a better route to go.

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Smith246 wrote:
So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response.  "Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with...

So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response. 

"Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with map2 (green button) you can make it even more aggressive."

 

So like I said you can change map one but not two. Two takes you to factory set levels beyond map one.

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So just to confirm what I have read so far. A '23 requires an ECU reflash at the dealer ($$) in order for the new CUO...

So just to confirm what I have read so far. A '23 requires an ECU reflash at the dealer ($$) in order for the new CUO to connect? 

How does the CUO compare with a Vortex? If I have a Vortex off a '23 MC350F am I better off to have it remapped or buy the CUO (if I didn't care about the GPS)? My understanding is that a Vortex from a '22 or older model KTM is NOT compatible with the '23+ models to work with the handlebar map switch and TC?

I would like the most low-end torque I can get with the ability to scale back the engine braking. How much torque does a Vortex give you over the CUO adjustment? And how much can you scale back the engine braking with the CUO versus what a Vortex can do? Reason I ask, is that if the gain with a Vortex is minimal in comparison, and I would need to buy a new Vortex to work properly with the '23+ models, then the CUO sounds like a better route to go.

I bought the non-GPS CUO for my ‘24 450. Haven’t connected yet. Will report back once I get it setup and tested. 

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Smith246 wrote:
So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response.  "Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with...

So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response. 

"Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with map2 (green button) you can make it even more aggressive."

 

wrc777 wrote:

I would agree the green map is a more aggressive version of whatever is loaded into the white.

So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map as aggressive as possible on the app then map2 on the handlebar switch would make that even more aggressive again? Or is it limited to the max the app will allow?

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So just to confirm what I have read so far. A '23 requires an ECU reflash at the dealer ($$) in order for the new CUO...

So just to confirm what I have read so far. A '23 requires an ECU reflash at the dealer ($$) in order for the new CUO to connect? 

How does the CUO compare with a Vortex? If I have a Vortex off a '23 MC350F am I better off to have it remapped or buy the CUO (if I didn't care about the GPS)? My understanding is that a Vortex from a '22 or older model KTM is NOT compatible with the '23+ models to work with the handlebar map switch and TC?

I would like the most low-end torque I can get with the ability to scale back the engine braking. How much torque does a Vortex give you over the CUO adjustment? And how much can you scale back the engine braking with the CUO versus what a Vortex can do? Reason I ask, is that if the gain with a Vortex is minimal in comparison, and I would need to buy a new Vortex to work properly with the '23+ models, then the CUO sounds like a better route to go.

Yes 23 will need an update, well mine definitely did.

I'm not 100% sure on this but I believe your vortex will still work on the newer models. If I already had the vortex I'd just get that remapped. If starting from scratch personally I'd go with the CUO.

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Smith246 wrote:
So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response.  "Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with...

So I sent an enquiry to ktm customer service, this was there response. 

"Thank you for you inquiry! It goes to map1 (white button) and with map2 (green button) you can make it even more aggressive."

 

wrc777 wrote:

I would agree the green map is a more aggressive version of whatever is loaded into the white.

Smith246 wrote:
So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map...

So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map as aggressive as possible on the app then map2 on the handlebar switch would make that even more aggressive again? Or is it limited to the max the app will allow?

I assume the aggressive map in the app plus max response will give you a more aggressive green map than the standard green but maybe the standard green map is already at max aggressiveness. 

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wrc777 wrote:

I would agree the green map is a more aggressive version of whatever is loaded into the white.

Smith246 wrote:
So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map...

So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map as aggressive as possible on the app then map2 on the handlebar switch would make that even more aggressive again? Or is it limited to the max the app will allow?

wrc777 wrote:
I assume the aggressive map in the app plus max response will give you a more aggressive green map than the standard green but maybe the...

I assume the aggressive map in the app plus max response will give you a more aggressive green map than the standard green but maybe the standard green map is already at max aggressiveness. 

I really hope it gives me more than the standard aggressive map otherwise I've wasted my money ha ha.

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Smith246 wrote:
So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map...

So it seems the green map isn't actually the standard ktm green map like most are saying. So does this mean if I make a map as aggressive as possible on the app then map2 on the handlebar switch would make that even more aggressive again? Or is it limited to the max the app will allow?

wrc777 wrote:
I assume the aggressive map in the app plus max response will give you a more aggressive green map than the standard green but maybe the...

I assume the aggressive map in the app plus max response will give you a more aggressive green map than the standard green but maybe the standard green map is already at max aggressiveness. 

Smith246 wrote:

I really hope it gives me more than the standard aggressive map otherwise I've wasted my money ha ha.

Turning down engine braking is useful. 

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Is KTM offering different colour choices for the GPS capable front fenders? 

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Anyone happen to know?

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I just looked through the power parts catalog on AOMC and looks like the fender only comes in Orange.

You can just purchase the bluetooth part to adjust the ecu for 189 which is what I will probably do because i’m not sure I need the GPS lit pro part.

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I’ve only seen orange for KTM, white for Husky, and red for Gas Gas. I hope they come out with some more color options though. 

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Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

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Smith246 wrote:
Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Almost sounds like for us guys with an existing Vortex, may be better off to have that remapped for the '23+ than to spend for the connectivity unit?!

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Smith246 wrote:
Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

If all you’re looking is more throttle response, you can use the more aggressive white cam on your throttle tube. 
Did you mess with any of the terrain settings?  I have maps created with basically a mild, standard, and aggressive power setting and then I tweak the TC, EB, and TR in those maps. 

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Smith246 wrote:
Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

Which map/surface did you pick? There are 3 different ones (soft, standard, aggressive) although 6 different surface conditions.

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Smith246 wrote:
Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Almost sounds like for us guys with an existing Vortex, may be better off to have that remapped for the '23+...

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Almost sounds like for us guys with an existing Vortex, may be better off to have that remapped for the '23+ than to spend for the connectivity unit?!

Yeah definitely if I already had a vortex I would be getting that remapped over the CUO unit. Although I wasn't blown away with the vortex on my 22 350 it was still a bigger difference than the CUO.

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Smith246 wrote:
Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

dansfx wrote:
If all you’re looking is more throttle response, you can use the more aggressive white cam on your throttle tube.  Did you mess with any of...

If all you’re looking is more throttle response, you can use the more aggressive white cam on your throttle tube. 
Did you mess with any of the terrain settings?  I have maps created with basically a mild, standard, and aggressive power setting and then I tweak the TC, EB, and TR in those maps. 

Yeah I already run the aggressive throttle cam. I set the terrain to dry sand which is aggressive and throttle response to the most aggressive. I'm a bit bigger guy so basically want everything I can get out of a 350. I actually prefer the power of 450's but the way the 350 handles just can't be beat in my opinion. 

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Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in...

Got to try CUO on 23 350sxf today, set engine braking to minimum and throttle response to maximum. Honestly I could barely notice any difference in throttle response but engine braking was a noticeable difference. I was ok with the standard engine braking and was mainly chasing more throttle response so for me was a bit of waste of money. Maybe I'll like the litpro feature when I get around to trying that.

wrc777 wrote:

Which map/surface did you pick? There are 3 different ones (soft, standard, aggressive) although 6 different surface conditions.

I set it to dry sand which is aggressive. 

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